It's official, Harvey Weinstein is the true supervillain in this rogue gallery.
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I tell people its nice we got all the nominations but do not count yourself out. You have a real chance to overtake this all. We’ve seen that happen with ‘Crash’ and ‘Brokeback Mountain’. It’s all great. The only thing I can say is the race ain’t over. It’s just beginning.
(Kate Winslet’s lead actress nomination was) the first indication I had we could win the Best Picture, not just be nominated. WIN. Because to put Kate in there showed such incredible passion for the movie. They knocked her out of supporting, and the other movie (â€ÂRevolutionary Roadâ€Â) to do it.
Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:36 am
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Re: Not Content, Harvey Wants Best Picture
If The Reader won it would be pretty much the biggest surprise/upset ever.
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Re: Not Content, Harvey Wants Best Picture
The Reader is the third best of the nominated films, so I wouldn't mind it winning at all. Go, Harvey, go.
I'd rather see a Frost/Nixon or "Button" victory, though.
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Re: Not Content, Harvey Wants Best Picture
Anything but Slumdog!
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:24 am
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Re: Not Content, Harvey Wants Best Picture
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Anything but Slumdog!
Nooooooooo. That leaves Frost/Nixon and The Reader.
At least Slumdog had a scene with someone covered in poo and MIA.
In order of preference,
Milk
and that's about it. Curious Case is half the film it should be, Slumdog is Danny Boyle's 4th best film and ignore the hype, not all that great, Frost/Nixon is about as exciting as watching paint dry, and The Reader is absolutely retarded.
If Milk only wins because it's righting the wrong of Brokeback, fine, I don't care. Whatever.
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:32 am
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Re: Not Content, Harvey Wants Best Picture
I haven't seen The Reader yet, so I can't comment. If the editing involves a lot of back and forth with flashbacks, I'll hate it; that's my worst pet peeves in movies (something Benjamin Button is also guilty of).
But Slumdog is pure hype and I soooooooooo don't want to award it anything. (maybe best song)
Milk is great. Yeah, I have a personal connection to it, but frankly everyone should have the same connection to it so that's frustrating.
Frost/Nixon was great too. Can't believe you didn't enjoy it. Is it the best movie ever? Of course not. Best of the year? Maybe. Should it win over Slumdog? Most definitely!
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:40 am
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My biggest issue with Frost/Nixon isn't one of quality but purpose. It's no different than Doubt in that there was no reason to make the film.
As far as I can see, it's sole reason for exisiting is to duplicate the success from the stage production and make an Oscar run. There's no greater story to tell, no mastery of tools to expand the scope from stage to screen.
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:47 am
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I just want Kate to win. Mainly because it'll make this delightful quote all the more ironic:
“My god, I'm not really doing it for that. I don't think we really need another film about the Holocaust, do we? It's like, how many have there been? We get it! It was grim! Move on! No, I'm doing it because I've noticed that if you do a film about the Holocaust? Guaranteed Oscar. I've been nominated for four. Never won!â€Â
-- Kate Winslet, Extras
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:49 am
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Re: Not Content, Harvey Wants Best Picture
If The Reader wins BP, I'll eat a shoe.
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Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:50 am
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it loses a bit without visuals
Having now seen Doubt and The Reader, Streep really should win her first (third overall) Oscar in 16 years and 11th nomination since then.
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:56 am
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Let's not forget that the 2 Best Picture winning films Ralph Nathaniel Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes starred in were also framed around World War II.
I can picture Harvey Weinstein in a room of Academy members screaming "You want to nominate a COMIC BOOK MOVIE over a fine piece of cinema involving the Holocaust? Are you losing your edge?!"
Anyway, it doesn't bother me at all that The Reader was nominated... IF it was truly nominated because they liked it more than TDK. But if it was nominated because they might lose their snob cred by nominating The Dark Knight, then that really sucks. I can speculate all I want just as well as TDK's critics can. And I'm leaning heavily towards TDK getting shafted because they might damage their reputation.
I'm leaning heavily towards TDK getting shafted because they might damage their reputation.
but how would this damage their reputation where something like Lord of the Rings wouldn't? Or, if you wanna get into summer blockbusters forcing their way into the Oscars back when they were WAY more conservative, nominating movies like Star Wars, E.T., Jaws, Forrest Gump, and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Raiders/Jaws especially were way less Oscar-safe than TDK, and came out in a time when the Academy was far less willing to take those "risky picks".
My theory as to why TDK got shafted is that the focus on a Heath Ledger win was so strong, and it has been so obvious for so long that he's going to win, that they felt like that was all the attention they needed to give the movie. After all, TDK's Oscar performance still ranks as better than any other superhero movie, so this was still something of a "breakthrough", despite missing out on the real biggies.
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Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:08 pm
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Re: Not Content, Harvey Wants Best Picture
He looks so disgusting.
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Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation.
I'm leaning heavily towards TDK getting shafted because they might damage their reputation.
but how would this damage their reputation where something like Lord of the Rings wouldn't? Or, if you wanna get into summer blockbusters forcing their way into the Oscars back when they were WAY more conservative, nominating movies like Star Wars, E.T., Jaws, Forrest Gump, and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Raiders/Jaws especially were way less Oscar-safe than TDK, and came out in a time when the Academy was far less willing to take those "risky picks".
My theory as to why TDK got shafted is that the focus on a Heath Ledger win was so strong, and it has been so obvious for so long that he's going to win, that they felt like that was all the attention they needed to give the movie. After all, TDK's Oscar performance still ranks as better than any other superhero movie, so this was still something of a "breakthrough", despite missing out on the real biggies.
I know, there's not a lot to back up what I'm saying. It seems more like Harvey Weinstein really did bully his way into the Oscars and the only movie to go was TDK. Whatever, it got eight nominations. I can't believe I'm that wrapped up in this when the film has EIGHT nominations. It could have had twelve, sure, but it could have had zero too.
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Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:20 pm
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Re: Not Content, Harvey Wants Best Picture
She collects Oscar noms like candy. I think she's bright enough to realize her work in The Reader isn't her best or even her best of the year. Even more important, Harvey destroyed any chance of Kate's husband getting recognition.
She collects Oscar noms like candy. I think she's bright enough to realize her work in The Reader isn't her best or even her best of the year. Even more important, Harvey destroyed any chance of Kate's husband getting recognition.
Why so?
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Briefs. Am used to them and boxers can get me in trouble it seems. Too much room and maybe the silkiness have created more than one awkward situation.
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