I saw this over at Rotten Tomatoes from a Poster who posted this from another link and it says that Chris Rock, the host of this years Academy Awards, was Quoted as Saying:

Outspoken OSCARS host CHRIS ROCK fears Hollywood has overlooked the best films of 2004 - SPIDER-MAN 2 and THE BOURNE SUPREMACY.

The funnyman has been checking out all the nominated movies for the upcoming ACADEMY AWARDS and he's yet to find one he enjoyed as much as his favourite box office successes.

He says, "Like any year, the best movies aren't nominated. What the f**k is better than The Bourne Supremacy and Spider-Man 2? Most Americans would say they are the best movies of the year. An overwhelming majority would take either of them over FINDING NEVERLAND."

Rock also has his opinion about who shouldn't take the Best Actor Oscar home on 27 February 05).

He adds, "I know if JAMIE FOXX (RAY) or DON CHEADLE (HOTEL RWANDA) wins, it's gonna help out their careers... Whereas if Johnny Depp wins (for FINDING NEVERLAND), it's like, `Yeah, he's got an award, but he's always gonna make the same money; he's always gonna get the best offers and work with the best people.'

"If LEO DiCAPRIO wins (for THE AVIATOR), who gives a f**k? It's like, `Oh, now he's gonna get 20 million and one dollars.'"


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I STRONGLY agree with him on this and you know something??? People consistently say that it isn't the amount of $$$ a film makes that makes it a true success, it's the QUALITY, but I can't help but to think that when movies like SPIDERMAN II and The BOURNE SUPREMACY make the amount of $$$ they did, they would almost have to be considered the BEST PICTURES just based on the general moviegoers popular concensus in enabling these movies to make what they did through repeat viewings whixh obviously makes them more popular in the general moviegoers eyes, so why not let these 2 be Nominated for BEST PICTURE instead of all this Aviator/Million Dollar Baby Nonsense???

haha...I was all ready to comment that if Chris Rock knew what a good movie was, his movie career wouldn't be in dumps, and then I saw Spider-Man 2 listed as one of his choices, and I couldn't agree with him more. =D>

Well both are better then Aviator thats for sure - but that whole the majority of people would pick SM2 or Bourne over Finding Neverland is a crock of shit, most people who saw both flicks would probably pick Neverland over either of those flicks. They're just some popcorn flicks, they dont have the same effect as a movie like Neverland or MDB has.

SM2 and BOURNE are such big time grossers$$$, that I'm more inclined to believe that they should be nominated for BEST PICTURE.. =D>

Screw Bourne, lets nominate Meet the Fockers and The Day After Tomorrow they both made more $$$ then Bourne, so i'm more inclined to belive that they should be nominated for Best Picture =D> =D>

Exactly...if were gonna go guy total gross...Skrek 2 should be nominated....Shark tale should be nominated....National treasure should be nominated....since all these films made more than all the fimls nominated

Oh and I just remembered where I know BKB from, it's from the IGN movie forums, he's the guy who thought AVP was gonna make like 300mil at the BO and everyone there made fun of him, so he left the forums because he said he would leave for good if AVP didnt make 300mil at the BO. When he finally saw the movie he was saying how he saw it 5 times in one day.

^^.....what, we are now making fun of people!?

this was a big problem on BOM, i hope it doesnt get here!

Actually, get your facts straight.. I said between 250-300 Million and so what?? I was wrong but it still doesn't change the fact that AVP kicked ass and IGN has probably the worst posters and the most film snobs I've ever seen of any website I've been to so it's just as well I don't post there..

I agree.. They should nominate SHREK II and MEET THE FOCKERS for BEST PICTURE since both movies were and are incredibly popular and made a fortune$$$, then the most popular movies like these 2 should be considered for BEST PICTURE.. Hell, why not?? Chris Rock's right and because they won't nominate them, this years Oscar telecast will be Boring as fuck because of it..

SM2 and TBS weren't made to win Oscars. TBS is brilliant, but no matter how good i think it is, its not Oscar material. Oscar material is something with great acting, brilliant story and mature feel to the film. SM2 and TBS dont fit the bill.

Collateral has been over-looked though ARGGH!!

Oh, I'm afraid that I have to strongly disagree with that.. SM2 and TBS had fantastic acting and good enough to get the job done.. Isn't that what it's all about? To act good enough to get the job done??? Both movies did have Brilliant stories and I would go as far as to say that both The Bourne Identity and The Bourne Supremacy are better than the Pierce Brosnan BOND Movies, BUT Not better than the Classic BOND Movies I grew up with by a long shot..

All im saying is, look at what is up for nomination and look at what isnt, theres the difference :wink:

Argh.

Million Dollar Baby being nominated was *not* nonsense. Why don't you try seeing some of these movies before you bash them?

The best overlooked movie was Kill Bill Vol. 2, by far and away.

Personally, I liked Spider-Man 2 more, but it wasn't oscar material to me.

The above article BKB is talking about is in the EW Oscar double issue.


Chris Rock talks about a lot of interesting things, I recommend everyone pick up the magazine.

BKB, I'm the first one that would back Spider-Man 2 being deserving, and being better than at least one of the nominees on anybody's card, but those high grossing movies aren't all there is. Look at Shawshank Redemption. For my money, both it and Pulp Fiction were far better than the winner that year, Forrest Gump, even though Gump kicked both of their tails in the box office. Should Shawshank Redemption have been left off, simply because it didn't have appeal to children and the MTV airheads that didn't pad it's box office numbers to more impressive levels? It only made $28,341,469 domestically, but there is no denying that it was easily one of the top 5 films of 1994. Forrest Gump made 3 times what Pulp Fiction did, and I'll bet more people like Pulp Fiction, and even though Gump made over 10 times more than Shawshank, I wouldn't bet on more people saying Gump was better, especially since a lot more people have now seen Shawshank in the past 10 years than did at the movies, thanks to TV and rentals and cable.

I also agree with Libs about Million Dollar Baby. Of all the movies, you should at least see that one. I think that you would agree after you did, that it's not "nonsense" that they nominated that movie for best picture. Movies like that one are a rare breed.

I agree with Chris about The Bourne Supremacy. Definately one of the best of the year.

I love how Chris is so outspoken and honest. He's going to be a super host (minus the horrid, horrid annoying high pitched voice --- *shudder*) because there'll be less "politically correct" stuff.

PEACE, Mike

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So you're saying we should reward films that make money because... they make money. If those pictures that are 'audience friendly' have already made money, why do they then need an award?

The academy isn't always 100% right, but I'm sure you can agree with the fact, BKB, that what the public likes is not always 'the best.'

Exactly Dkmuto, why do you think AVP made so much money?

Because it was a good mindless action flick that proved it has a fanbase and a sequel on the way.. =D>

Consider this for the moment: Both The Aviator and Million Dollar Baby have finally expanded to more screens, yet, for 2 films that are BEST PICTURE Oscar Contenders, the only folks I see praising the holy hell out them are the Critics and Members of the Academy and not the general moviegoer given the fact that Million Dollar Baby opened up at #4 for the weekend and was beaten out by a horror movie like Hide and Seek.. What does that tell you if a horror movie beats out a movie like Million Dollar Baby, a movie that's supposedly so loved and so good?? If it were really that good, wouldn't it of been #1 for the weekend instead of premiering at #4??? I think times are changing and general moviegoers are speaking back and letting them know which films are better and which are more popular.. I think any movie that grosses over 200 Million like Meet The Fockers, Spiderman II, Shrek II or even The Bourne Supremacy should be considered for the BEST PICTURE Catagory since it's obvious the amount of $$$ they've generated proves that the general moviegoer feels there the BEST PICTURES for the amount of repeat viewings they made.. .. =D>

First off it premiered at #3 slick and Second how can you tell if the movie has good wom or not when it just opened wide? This coming week when Hide & Seek has a drop off of 50% and MDB has a very small drop off you'll see what movie has the great wom :wink: First week #s dont indicate a movies wom smart one. I find it so hard to belive you're older then 10 years old let alone 35-40, cause you have such a strange mind set.