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I'm ashamed of the Hypocrites of my Race(Hustle&Flow)
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Passionate Thug
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 I'm ashamed of the Hypocrites of my Race(Hustle&Flow)
I have lost all respect and admiration for Terrence Howard(Crash, Hustle& Flow) When he was on the Press circuit promoting Hustle & Flow, he was adamant about how he didn't like Rap/Hip Hop music. But the movie brought him his Oscar fame and he accepted the Nomination. Then Last night I was happy for the Three 6 Mafia win, but i could help but wonder why he didn't perform the song? Taraj Henderson did her part just like in the movie and was great. Well looks like Mr. Howard has gotten uppty and was talked out of doing the song.
HOWARD REPORTEDLY TALKED OUT OF SINGING AT OSCARS: Longoria claims Poitier, others said it would be embarrassing for blacks.
(March 3, 2006)
Quote: *Terrence Howard was reportedly approached by a number of black stars requesting that the actor turn down the opportunity to perform his Oscar-nominated song from “Hustle & Flow†during Sunday’s ceremony.
Howard is up for a best actor award for his role as DJay, a Memphis pimp who hopes to become a rapper. The song he sings in the film, “It’s Hard Out Here For A Pimp,†has been nominated for an Academy Award as well. But as previously reported, the song’s writers, Three 6 Mafia, will perform the track instead.
According to the UK’s Mirror newspaper, actress Eva Longoria said the actor was approached by several black stars, including Sidney Poitier, Denzel Washington and Will Smith, who have asked him not to perform the song during the telecast.
“Sidney Poitier said, ‘Do not get up there and represent the African American community singing about a pimp,’†Longoria told the newspaper.
Meanwhile, Taraji P. Henson, who belted the song’s chorus in the film, will join Three 6 Mafia on stage for the Oscar performance and will be allowed to keep the word “b*tches†in the chorus. A spokesman for Gil Cates, the producer of the Oscars telecast, confirmed that the term was not on the list of banned words.
Lyrics in the song that do appear on the list include the N-word, the S-word and the F-word. After being asked to perform the track, Three 6 Mafia members Jordan "Juicy J" Houston, Paul "DJ Paul" Beauregard and Cedric "Frayser Boy" Coleman, went through the lyrics line by line and substituted various words to make it FCC-friendly.
Ok so it's OK to take the lead role in a film as a Pimp, just dont sing about it in public  And Denzel playing one of the Most dirty Cops in cinima history is a respectable image for Black folks?  and Will "Fresh Prince" Smith channeling a racist wominizing Ali really makes you look good. Fuck that, non-of you represent me, I love to see all aspects of my culture presented and I'm not ashamed of any part of my race. Mr. Howard it was us who supported you years before the Oscar Nomination, when many of your movies were made for TV or DTDVD. Most of you career and acting has been portraying Gangsters, Pimps, and other low lifes from our culture, and now that you are at the big boys table you want to spit out the scraps we've been feeding you for years.
Terrence Howard your lines should have read like this....
DJay: You in charge. Say it.
Nola: I'm in charge.
DJay: Say it like you mean it.
Nola: [after a pause] I'm in charge.
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:07 pm |
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Chippy
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African American's defining music, and I'm sorry if this offends you, is jazz.
Rap/R&B is shit music and I wouldn't even classify it as music. Jazz is more refined and actually needs talent. Rappers are talentless scum suckers.
Again, sorry if your offended, but rappers offend me as an american
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:12 pm |
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Passionate Thug
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ChipMunky wrote: African American's defining music, and I'm sorry if this offends you, is jazz.
Rap/R&B is shit music and I wouldn't even classify it as music. Jazz is more refined and actually needs talent. Rappers are talentless scum suckers.
Again, sorry if your offended, but rappers offend me as an american
That's your Opinion, and I respect it. But Rap/Hip Hop is here to stay, I don't like every arstist or song but that's in every music genre I listen to whether it's Rock, Country, Pop, or R&B.
What was the point of you post?  I've asked for commentary on Howard not embracing the Movie/Song that he accepted an academy award for. Not your opinion on Rap music.
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:17 pm |
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Chippy
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His declining to sing the song that he was originally a part of is somewhat reasonable.
I do agree he should've somehow compremised, but I'm not going to get upset about his beliefs.
Would you get mad at somebody who didn't act the way they did in a movie, in real life? A movie is not real, FANTASY. Just because you are acting in a movie does not mean thats how you act in real life or what you agree with.
Denzel isn't a crooked cop in real life, I don't get pissed at him cause he doesn't act like a crooked cop in real life.
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:21 pm |
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Passionate Thug
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I never said that they should ACT like that in real life. Hell half the rappers that say they are gangster grew up in the suburbs with well to do family's and are some of the nicest people you'd ever meet. However to make your living portraying one and then to tell everyone not to go buy/listen to your movies/albums.
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:38 pm |
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They were all smart to tell him that and he's smart to have listened to them. He's not a rapper, it's not his song, and at the end of the day he would've looked like a fool doing it. It's like if Jamie Foxx pretended to be Ray Charles in real life......... oh wait.
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:47 pm |
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bABA
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boyfresh. what if he just doesn't like the type of music, or even worse, isn't it favor of the type of music being a medium that influences people. Much like Rock, that did at one time, receive a reputation of being a bad influence, so has hip hop. What if terence just doesn't believe in it?
This really shouldn't be race specific. Just because you belong to a certain race should you feel you should defend or even like a part of it. At the same time, many people play roles in films which they probably do not believe in .. in order to make a good film.
i don't think its anything to be disappointed about. People are people. They're not black people, white people, oriental people. Sure the race will make somewhat of a difference to the way you think but they're just people. And they'll have their preferences.
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:56 pm |
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Passionate Thug
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So if Joaqin Phoenix had said Johnny Cash sucked and he doesn't get it, what would have been the reaction? At least Jamie Foxx respected Ray Charles Music, but Charles again was not what I would consider a role model.
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:48 pm |
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Tyler
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ChipMunky wrote: Rap/R&B is shit music and I wouldn't even classify it as music. Jazz is more refined and actually needs talent. Rappers are talentless scum suckers.
The Funk Brothers (the great Motown studio band) didn't have the chops of jazz men? George Clinton's group projects were simplistic? Or are you only talking about modern R&B?
Mainstream rap in general has been a sewer for ten years.
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:55 pm |
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Passionate Thug
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Most Music in General has been in the corporate packaged toilet for years
Found this great post on another board.... "I just can't imagine Al Pacino, Bruce Willis, and Tom Cruise going up to Paul Wall and saying, " You shouldn't perform at the soul train awards, you'll make us all look bad!" LOL!"
What if Jake had come out and said I don't like Gay People?
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:29 pm |
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El Maskado
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Or perhaps Denzel and Sidney felt the oscars award is the wrong venue to perform the song. It does feel out of place in the oscars, it would be like performing a heavy metal song during the oscars. They are probably fine with the song being performed at MTV or Blockbuster awards and probably in their shoes, they felt that performing a rap song in a formal event like the oscars felt tacky. Afterall rap is all about attitude, you wouldnt want to dress up in sandals or a t-shirt in an important meeting will you?
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:58 pm |
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Passionate Thug
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Sad Clown, it shouldn't matter what awards show it is you can't have it both ways.
Another great post from another message board:
Quote: Why do we as black folks not support each other? Denzel won for Training Day because he was a monster in that film, and he was believable... It was completely different than all the other Denzel movies out there. Same for Halle with Monsters Ball, acting is about taking a role and making it your own, so that when people see the movie, play, TV show etc, the see the character, not the actor playing the role. If your children are being brainwashed, it is because you are allowing them to be, you should be your children's role models, not actors, actresses, rappers, & singers that they do not know, and more than likely will never know!!! I could care less how white people perceive me, and to be honest the same goes for black people. You know why, because you same blacks that berate 3-6 Mafia for being too “niggerish†will berate me for sounding too white!!! We are always on that how white folks perceive us crap, but we are our own worst enemies!!! I teach my sons that if a person isn’t making moves to make your life better, then what they think or feel about you is irrelevant!!! Why was the song nominated? I guess now ya’ll want to know why it won? The song tells the story of the movie perfectly. Who cares if you don’t condone the language or the topic, it was nominated! Where is your nomination? Or better yet, what have you done to better the lives of black folks? Rap is art. Rap like all music tells a story. If you have a problem with the stories that our young black men and women have to tell, then get off of your tail and do something about it!!! Go down to the hood and take a look at what our people go through, and until you have had to endure some of the things they have, shut up!!! And I have to say, the whole “bitches†and “hoes†argument is so OLD!!!!! Get over it, if you don’t have %*$!( or hoe tendencies, then the song isn’t about you. DoctorSmooth, the Oscars are not about class and style, that is the way you are supposed to dress, the Oscar are about being the Best of the Best, as determined by the Academy. And sir, 3-6 Mafia now has a golden statue!!!!!
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:04 pm |
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El Maskado
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Well think about it this way. Pat Morita was nominated for his role as Mr Miyagi in 1984 for Karate Kid. Say that the oscar board told him to reprise his accent and stereotype for the academy awards but a group of asian americans tell him no because it would make them look bad and seems rather racist. Does that mean the asian americans have something against asians who speak with heavy accents? The same analogy could apply to how Denzel and Sidney were thinking?
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:08 pm |
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Passionate Thug
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Yes their are prejudices against each other within race. Dark vs. Light skin City Vs. Farmlands ect. So yes if you don't protest the movie why protest an awards show?
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:35 pm |
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Chippy
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He didn't make a living playing his role in Hustle & Flow... it was ONE movie role. He felt it wouldn't be appropriate to perform that type of song at such a formal event.
I disagree with what that other guy said about "It's about being the best of the best". It's not about that, for every "best" there are 2/3/4 not the best. The awards is a FORMAL event and unlike certain groups of people... most of the hollywood community has RESPECT for the event.
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Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:45 am |
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bABA
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BOYFRESH wrote: So if Joaqin Phoenix had said Johnny Cash sucked and he doesn't get it, what would have been the reaction? At least Jamie Foxx respected Ray Charles Music, but Charles again was not what I would consider a role model.
nothing wrong with it. as long as phoenix didn't throw in his own agenda of making Cash look bad or his dislike for the man didn't allow him to portray the man properly, i don't see any issue with it. many actors play homophobes in films cause its their character. many play drug dealers, murderers, and thiefs. are you telling me they should respect them as well??
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