Munich trailer hyperbole thread
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andaroo1
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 Munich trailer hyperbole thread
Best Picture? Best Director? Best Adapted Screenplay? Best Cinematography?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Also probably expect nominations in Actor? Supporting Actor?
Unlike other threads here, I'm opening the floor to hyperbole and all positive comments regarding our future Best Picture Overlord!
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:08 am |
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Shack
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Eric Bana is verrrrry good in the trailer.
This won't be just Speilburg taking all the credit.

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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:13 am |
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Maverikk
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The film, Spielberg, Bana, Rush, and Craig are all hopefuls right now. So is the screenplay,cinematography, and possibly the score, if it's emotional enough. Editing might also get a nomination. It has potential to grab a whole slew of nominations.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:17 am |
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andaroo1
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Bana
Hoffman
Pheonix
Strathairn
and...
Mortensen?
that's what I'm thinking at the moment.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:18 am |
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Shack
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Ledger.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:20 am |
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andaroo1
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Hmmm. Ledger is in there... maybe. It's either Ledger or Mortensen probably.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:22 am |
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Shack
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It isn't a walk-away or anything for Phoenix either. I mean hes probably #1, the favorite for now, but its no blowout. I've been seeing a bit of overshadowing by the ultimate lock for win of BA it seems in Reese Witherspoon, and I read a review criticizing his singing. It'll definitly be close.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:24 am |
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Maverikk
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andaroo wrote: Bana Hoffman Pheonix Strathairn
and...
Mortensen?
that's what I'm thinking at the moment.
We'll have to see Clooney in Syriana to see if he's lead or supporting, as it might be more of an ensemble.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:25 am |
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Raffiki
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Even though Mountain has gotten impressive critical praise for this time in the race, I'm going to put it aside and wait till we get closer to its release date to fully start discussing it.
However, that being said.... I do think Ledger is a shoe in for a nod. If the film will get one nomination, it will be Ledger.
I don't know how you can say Bana is really good in the trailer when it really doesn't allow much time to display much of anything.
But I do believe Bana has a great shot if he's pretty darn good. He's actually duking it out with Clooney now for the 5t spot on my list. (Clooney for Syriana of course)
As for the rest..... yes, yes, yes, yes...
The Best Picture race is about to get dull
This is an excellent year to spread around awards to deserving films, so I hope it doesn't completely sweep.
By the way... is the Golden Globes submission deadline today? That's what the Hollywood Reporter claims. If so, is Munich (as well as a few others) going to be inelligible for Globes?
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:28 am |
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BennyBlanco
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Fuck me, the race is over folks!
Munich is a future winner in Picture, Director, Actor, Cinematography, Score, Editing and Supporting Actor.
Nothing else even comes close and it will probably end up being the greatest movie ever made.

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Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:06 am |
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Maverikk
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BennyBlanco wrote: Fuck me, the race is over folks! Munich is a future winner in Picture, Director, Actor, Cinematography, Score, Editing and Supporting Actor. Nothing else even comes close and it will probably end up being the greatest movie ever made. 
Benny, you've got to remember one thing. The academy will not be taking your opinion or anyone's opinion of Steven Spielberg into consideration, and you're really setting yourself up for a big disappointment if you make your mind up like that before you've even seen the film, and if you expect everyone to reward the film based on your personal opinion once you do see it.
In my opinion, George Lucas should have the red carpet rolled out while his ass is kissed by two super models as he walks up to accept his best picture and best director Oscars for Revenge of the Sith, and Lord knows he'd deserve it for everything he's given the industry, but it's not going to happen just because I want it to. 
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:21 am |
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BennyBlanco
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Maverikk wrote: BennyBlanco wrote: Fuck me, the race is over folks! Munich is a future winner in Picture, Director, Actor, Cinematography, Score, Editing and Supporting Actor. Nothing else even comes close and it will probably end up being the greatest movie ever made.  Benny, you've got to remember one thing. The academy will not be taking your opinion or anyone's opinion of Steven Spielberg into consideration, and you're really setting yourself up for a big disappointment if you make your mind up like that before you've even seen the film, and if you expect everyone to reward the film based on your personal opinion once you do see it. In my opinion, George Lucas should have the red carpet rolled out while his ass is kissed by two super models as he walks up to accept his best picture and best director Oscars for Revenge of the Sith, and Lord knows he'd deserve it for everything he's given the industry, but it's not going to happen just because I want it to. 
Well, perhaps Georgie boy will be awarded with an honourary Oscar one day for those contributions, cause he sure won't win it for anything else  . Just leave that to his good buddy Steven.
Oh, and incidentally Mav, aren't you kind of setting yourself up for disappointment with all of your hype and anticipation for Walk the Line? I assume you attached yourself to it before any of the critics weighed in and so I'm wondering what about that movie makes it such a sure thing to please you. I just find it an interesting contrast to your downplayed excitement for Munich, considering Spielberg is your favourite director and he is once again tackling important and dramatic subject matter.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:37 am |
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neo_wolf
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Its over! Munich is gonna win it big!
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:48 am |
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Lucky
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Just saw the Munich trailer and must say I was very impressed.This is just the trailer so of course it depends on how the picture is received. Though I see Munich having a huge advantage being from Universal/Dreamworks as both studios know how to run an Oscar campaign. I could see Munich becoming the early frontrunner to win the Oscar for best picture.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:49 am |
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xiayun
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I have to agree this is clearly the frontrunner right now. It looks to be Spielberg's best film since Schindler's List. Picture, Director, and Adapted Screenplay nominations are locks. With these as starting point, we know Editing lineup always looks similar to Picture lineup. Cinematography and Score look solid too. I disagree with Benny that it will win either Best Actor or Best Supporting Actor. Possible/probable nominations in acting, but not wins, just like Schindler's List. I just don't see Bana come close to challenge Pheonix, whose main competition will come from Hoffman. In the end, Munich will have 8-10 nominations and 4-5 wins.
The adapted screenplay competition is down to Munich vs. Brokeback Mountains.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:00 am |
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BennyBlanco
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xiayun wrote: I have to agree this is clearly the frontrunner right now. It looks to be Spielberg's best film since Schindler's List. Picture, Director, and Adapted Screenplay nominations are locks. With these as starting point, we know Editing lineup always looks similar to Picture lineup. Cinematography and Score look solid too. I disagree with Benny that it will win either Best Actor or Best Supporting Actor. Possible/probable nominations in acting, but not wins, just like Schindler's List. I just don't see Bana come close to challenge Pheonix, whose main competition will come from Hoffman. In the end, Munich will have 8-10 nominations and 4-5 wins.
The adapted screenplay competition is down to Munich vs. Brokeback Mountains.
Well, this is the hyperbole thread so those comments weren't completely serious. If I were to take a real stab at predicting my thoughts would line up with yours, though the supporting actor is really up in the air and we don't know how much screen time Rush and/or Craig have in the movie. Bana will carry the picture and thus sneak in the top 5 actors, but like you said, Phoenix seems to be in the Jamie Foxx seat this year.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:11 am |
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Maverikk
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BennyBlanco wrote: Well, perhaps Georgie boy will be awarded with an honourary Oscar one day for those contributions, cause he sure won't win it for anything else  . Just leave that to his good buddy Steven. Oh, and incidentally Mav, aren't you kind of setting yourself up for disappointment with all of your hype and anticipation for Walk the Line? I assume you attached yourself to it before any of the critics weighed in and so I'm wondering what about that movie makes it such a sure thing to please you. I just find it an interesting contrast to your downplayed excitement for Munich, considering Spielberg is your favourite director and he is once again tackling important and dramatic subject matter.
No, I never called Walk the Line the frontrunner or talked about anything more than it's potential until it premiered in Toronto and was raved about. I was excited about it, and expected Joaquin and Reese to hold their ends up, but treated it very much like how I'm treating Syriana and Munich right now. I'm very excited about them both, see the potential, but realize that nobody has seen a frame of film, and would never call it the frontrunner. People were doing that with Jarhead, and that's a perfect example of how easily that kind of thinking can blow up in your face. (No offense to those who were calling Jarhead a frontrunner or lock)
Spielberg is my favorite, but nobody hits one out of the park everytime out. Spielberg just failed to do that with War of the Worlds, and I was underwhelmed by it even after I had a guarded enthusiasm because of a fear of him rushing the project. This is another case of him possibly rushing the job. On paper, the Chicago White Sox should never have won the world series, but the games had to be played to decide that. It's the same with movies. Spielberg doesn't get a free pass from me just because he's my favorite, the movie has to play the game, and it could strike out. When people actually see it and are raving about it, I'll consider it a frontrunner, but to do that just because "most" of Spielberg's stuff is good doesn't make much sense to me. War of the Worlds isn't even in my top 10 and might be out of my top 20 by year's end, and Red Eye could very well stay in my top 10, but if I decided on the order before I watched the films, there isn't any chance that such a scenerio would have happened.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:35 am |
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BennyBlanco
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Maverikk wrote: BennyBlanco wrote: Well, perhaps Georgie boy will be awarded with an honourary Oscar one day for those contributions, cause he sure won't win it for anything else  . Just leave that to his good buddy Steven. Oh, and incidentally Mav, aren't you kind of setting yourself up for disappointment with all of your hype and anticipation for Walk the Line? I assume you attached yourself to it before any of the critics weighed in and so I'm wondering what about that movie makes it such a sure thing to please you. I just find it an interesting contrast to your downplayed excitement for Munich, considering Spielberg is your favourite director and he is once again tackling important and dramatic subject matter. No, I never called Walk the Line the frontrunner or talked about anything more than it's potential until it premiered in Toronto and was raved about. I was excited about it, and expected Joaquin and Reese to hold their ends up, but treated it very much like how I'm treating Syriana and Munich right now. I'm very excited about them both, see the potential, but realize that nobody has seen a frame of film, and would never call it the frontrunner. People were doing that with Jarhead, and that's a perfect example of how easily that kind of thinking can blow up in your face. (No offense to those who were calling Jarhead a frontrunner or lock) Spielberg is my favorite, but nobody hits one out of the park everytime out. Spielberg just failed to do that with War of the Worlds, and I was underwhelmed by it even after I had a guarded enthusiasm because of a fear of him rushing the project. This is another case of him possibly rushing the job. On paper, the Chicago White Sox should never have won the world series, but the games had to be played to decide that. It's the same with movies. Spielberg doesn't get a free pass from me just because he's my favorite, the movie has to play the game, and it could strike out. When people actually see it and are raving about it, I'll consider it a frontrunner, but to do that just because "most" of Spielberg's stuff is good doesn't make much sense to me. War of the Worlds isn't even in my top 10 and might be out of my top 20 by year's end, and Red Eye could very well stay in my top 10, but if I decided on the order before I watched the films, there isn't any chance that such a scenerio would have happened.
Cool  . Here's hoping we get many great films in the next couple months.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:48 am |
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Maverikk
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BennyBlanco wrote: Cool  . Here's hoping we get many great films in the next couple months.
Most definitely! After already experiencing a few letdowns, I'm ready for some things like Munich to live up to the promise, and I'm also ready for a few surprises that I didn't see coming. 
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:51 am |
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MovieDude
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Yeah, I think it's got a Best Picture nomination pretty locked up, but I do hope it's not a dissapointment, which it could be. However, this just... I don't know, something about the trailer gives me a really good feeling about this one.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:56 am |
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andaroo1
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Personally... I don't think Speilberg's fucked up a film since Amistad.
Yes I even really liked The Terminal.
I love the moment in that film where Viktor asks what he should do and the cop tells him to become a consumer.
And (SPOILER) after experiencing all the consumerism and Americanism he has no will to stay. He came to do a job then get on the plane and go home.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:29 am |
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xiayun
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I liked The Terminal as well, and I enjoyed A.I. much more than many others did.
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:53 pm |
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That, or the film could be generic crap. I fully expect Palestinians and Israelis to be smootching and holding hands at the end of the film while visiting a cemetery to lay flowers on the graves of the dead.
Or maybe one of the agents' supposedly dead son will miraculously appear at the end, and the entire family will be just swell! Better yet, the athletes, it turns out, were never actually killed, and neither were the terrorists, so it was all just a big misunderstanding.
Oopsie daisy

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Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:41 pm |
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Hmmm...
so when are we supposed to get the first reviews/screening results?
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Arent press screenings starting on the first?
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