Maybe it was just too smart for you guys to get?

If by smart you mean spelling out every little nuance of the film, then yeah we are in agreement

It didn't spell it out the same for you as it did for me and others. That's the beauty of the film, in that it spoke to people differently. There was not another movie this year that was so talked about, and it's one of the biggest success stories of the year.

We need more films like Crash!

That's the beauty of Pearl Harbor it spoke to people differently.

You can say that baout any movie.

I've spent more time talking about alot of other films this year, but that's just me. KJ is the only place where I talk about this film or see this much talk about it.

At the end of the day this movie will remain in the top of your list, and for me it will always be one of the worst films I have ever paid $6 to see. It was a total waste of the 2 hours I spent watching the film and the travel time there for me.

You can't say that every movie had the kind of box office legs that Crash had, though.

You can't say that every movie has made critics lists.

You can't say that every movie was liked by 3/4 of the critics and probably a lot bigger % of the people who saw it.

You certainly can't say that about Pearl Harbor.

I'm sorry you couldn't enjoy it as much as I did. Maybe next time.

GARR! MAHTT DILLUN BEHST SUPPORTING ACTUR!

To use an arguemtn of yours, maybe I just think for myself rather the following the opinion of critics

I honestly didn't read many the reviews or follow the box office, and the ones I did read lie Ebret conveyed the film had problems he felt it worked anyway, i felt it insulted my intelligence as a viewer.

I honestly don't know how the film did at BO, i am rarely in the Box Office bash forum for a reason, I don't keep with that stuff.

Crsash could be the best reviewd movie ever, with the highest gross ever, I'd still think it was shit. I left theater disliking it, and that hasn't changed.

Films we revere now opened to crap reviews and films we have forgotten about won awards, I still like the movies I like and dislike the movies I dislike.

Well... Matt Dillon was good in it...

OH FUCK I'M SORRY.

*laughs*

You need to follow that up with a negative comment, to balance out the universe.

I was thinking on the way home...

"What if Michael Bay directed Crash" and I was all like...

More Thandie Newton boobies and Aerosmith songs...

And I was all over that...

Ebert is now an ememy of this state:



We can conclude the following, Ebert is stupid and he likes it "back and forth". He did have Millions on there though...

God the movie is silly, it's almost pathetic to think of how contrived and fake the whole set up is... and? And who gives a damn? Crash is a powerhouse of emotions. We check our brains at the door for lame comedies and laugh away, and for Crash, ya sorta check your brain at the door too. There is a sort of unspoken truth about Crash, too- no matter how overblown and ludacris the plot may be. The emotions that drive the film can be overwhelming.... if you aren't andaroo. I cried more during Crash than I have in ages during a film and look past the overblown performances of a few to enjoy the more brilliant moments Haggis creates... lovers of the film know what I'm talking about...

Ya know, Crash sorta reminds me of a research paper, maybe on racial tensions. The paper is elegantly crafted, beautifully executed, and damn near flawless. There's just one big exception - a flawed thesis. Crash may be contrived and cliched and all the rest, but if you can look past that and appreciate that the movie does plenty of things the right way, it's an admirable film. And that, you haters, is why I like it. So ... I stick by my grade of B+/A-.

I love how you say to "check our brains at the door"

Then go on to liken it to a "research paper".

I always check my brain at the door before homework. If I didn't... god knows where my parents would send me off too.

Autopilot is good.

You catch my drift though, right? That's sorta how I feel about it....

Heh, to be fair I'm on the fence concerning Crash. On some level, I thought the film got rather silly with some of the dialogue and character interventions. On the other hand, it was well directed even if it did get over-dramatic, and I could forgive that for it at least being ambitious enough to try and make the film a lot more important then it really was. Sort of a guilty "good" movie, it certainly hit me emotionally and while I do believe it had a lot of things to say, it did ham it up at certain points.

I know what you are saying... I think that it works for action movies and entertainment, but Crash tries to be cerebral and at least some of us, have a few problems with it. It takes itself really seriously, so I dunno.

It's not like Lost or Days of Our Lives where it's just drama for drama's sake, it's people doing shitty things to each other to get emotional reactions out of an audience and shove a message?

I dunno.

Oprah saying "OMG THIS IS A MOVIE EVERYONE SHOULD OWN" was the thing that pushed me into the realm of hatred. It used to be a stylish failure, but now that it's something *more* it is a bigger target.

I will send you free cookies if you change your review into one filled with hatred!

There you go. That's another way of summing up what I had to say. I sorta go both ways on Crash, though I'm certain I'll be buying a copy sometime this week. It's really ambitious and beautiful, even if it doesn't always measure up. That alone makes it noteworthy for the time being.

Aww, you remind me of my Chicago/Beautiful Mind/Lord of the Rings/Other movie days of hatred. You're pissed off because most of America agrees that it's great - probably because they accept it at face value and refuse to challenge it. That's gotta be frustrating. That noteworthy thing... that characteristic of Crash I keep wanting to mention is it's honesty. There *are* people out there so extreme and disgusting like Dylan's character and so effected by racism in this country. It sort of sticks to those extreme stereotypes, though, and that sort of messes up any humanity in the movie. Instead, it comes off overblown and silly, I imagine. I appreciate those stereotypes personally because I've grown up in an extremely mixed race environment. I've been in the minority when it comes to race, sexuality, politics- and I'm sure we all have been. Crash is just an interesting study of these relationships I've grown up around and it's always interesting to visit them and see someone else's take on it- especially with fine performances and a tear jerking script. If you didn't freak out when that car caught on fire, you're full of shit.

I wanna tear that fukking invisibility cloak off that fukking girl and pistol-whip her instead.








hateful enough?

Not pissed off about that they "like it" but yes, not happy that it's "A FILM ABOUT RACISM" and nobody questions it. White guilt!


I was too busy rolling my eyes at the fact that Dylan was the one who showed up to save Newton.

I work in a very mixed environments, my co-workers are spanish, indian, chinese, black, rican, malaysian, australian, iranians, pakastani, men, women, gay, straight, blah blah. Crash just isn't a great example of what "racism is in America".

BUT HIS WIFE IS BLACK.

He has to pick it as #1

Hey... I didn't write that!

Wait. Ebert's wife is black?

...What?

You Crash haters are all jealous. JEALOUS.

Sike.

Crash is my homeboy, though. If you all keep talking shit about it I will get my connections to come and beat your asses down.