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 Well...the 2008 Contenders Discussion Thread 
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Live action? Is he gonna throw a #1 curve ball on a certain film this year?


Well, are docs considered live-action? Because if not, docs have dominated the best reviewed films of the year for 2008. Could certainly be one of those.

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That sounds like an endorsement for WALL-E, moreso than Man on Wire. The wording doesn't support a documentary.


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Australia now stands at 47%, 40% COTC.

I'm seeing it this morning but that's merely a formality. It's off my BP ballot.


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Australia looked cringe worthy from the first trailer. Expected.

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Australia looked cringe worthy from the first trailer. Expected.


Well, I LOVE Baz's style. But critics love nothing more than to pile up on disasters so I think for the most part, many of us saw this coming. I never thought it was BP contender but I did think it was a nominee by default.

It should still rack up a nice tech nom tally unless Hollywood really wants to send a message.

Whatever helps WALL-E get in the 5. :D

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Live action? Is he gonna throw a #1 curve ball on a certain film this year?


Waltz with Bashir?

And snack is in the right that TDK doesn't really reflect the current mood of the country. Milk and Slumdog Millionaire are a lot closer (Battle for gay rights, hope in general).

But as a person that stood firmly against King Kong back in 2005 (Ask around on AwardsDaily, I was despised!), TDK is 65% likely at this point, behind only the above two contenders.

Also, Loyal: Three of the nine BP-less 6+ nominees you mentioned earlier were genre films (T2, Dick Tracy, Pan's Labyrinth), and all of them except Thelma & Louise received no more than two major noms, and WALL-E is "good" for only 1 (Screenplay, where I'm not predicting it ATM).


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Anton Chigurh wrote:
Live action? Is he gonna throw a #1 curve ball on a certain film this year?


Waltz with Bashir?

That's not an American movie.


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Anton Chigurh wrote:
Live action? Is he gonna throw a #1 curve ball on a certain film this year?


Waltz with Bashir?

That's not an American movie.


He said it's the best "live-action," "mainstream," and "American" movie of the year. Waltz with Bashir is none of those things.


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Go Wall-E, Go!

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Live action? Is he gonna throw a #1 curve ball on a certain film this year?


His WALL-E review actually wasn't THAT laudatory....at least not as much as Rat's.


He gave it a 90, but he hasn't given any film 100 this year that I can find. He isn't Ebert with perfect ratings.

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Variety and HR both gave Cadillac Records good word. It's probably too small to be a push for the big awards, but Musical/Comedy at the Globes, a song nom, and a longshot supporting Actor nom for Wright looks possible.


Yeah, it's getting good buzz and reviews, I'm looking forward to it. As you said, it could be a player at the Globes.


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In any case, Milk is right now the safest choice to pick for a nom (yes, safer than TDK) and then Slumdog Millionaire.

Also, Milk is the safest one to predict that it will NOT win Best Picture, IMO. It's an actors' film and doesn't seem like the kind of film the Academy would now award Best Picture to.


UNLESS...they wanna make up for Brokeback Mountain in some bizarre scenario.

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Although like every other film with supporters and detractors, "Benjamin Button" is such an impressive and groudbreaking cinematic achievement that it seems to have genuinely earned its frontrunner status and looks like a cinch for at least 10 nominations, including for Cate Blanchett and Taraji P. Henson among the actors. Brad Pitt's haunting performance is low key and all in his eyes. He's great, but will it be too subtle for the actors' branch? Hope not...


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If you subscribe to the theory that the film with the most potential Oscar nominations is the frontrunner, which I usually do, then "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button,'' which I saw last night at MOMA, is the clear-cut leader for Best Picture. There are 10 or more possible nods here, including Best Actor for Brad Pitt and Best Actress for Cate Blanchett. Director David Fincher and screenwriter Eric Roth's very free and very long (167 minutes) adaptation of a short story by F. Scott Fitzgerald is a sweeping, decades-spanning romantic fantasy that I got totally caught up in


Benjamin Button is the frontrunner, IMO.

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If Wall-E wasn't the frontrunner, I would agree.

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I want to see a few box office receipts before calling it the front runner, but I'm sure it'll be fine.

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Just watched Australia a few hours ago. It's not bad.


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Go Cate!!!

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Here are Tapley's picks:

Best Picture: “Slumdog Millionaire”
Best Director: Danny Boyle, “Slumdog Millionaire”
Best Actor: Clint Eastwood, “Gran Torino”
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett, “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button”
Best Supporting Actor: Heath Ledger, “The Dark Knight”
Best Supporting Actress: Viola Davis, “Doubt”
Best Adapted Screenplay: “Slumdog Millionaire”
Best Original Screenplay: “Milk”
Best Art Direction: “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button”
Best Cinematography: “Defiance”
Best Costume Design: “The Duchess”
Best Film Editing: “Slumdog Millionaire”
Best Makeup: “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button”
Best Music - Original Score: “Defiance”
Best Music - Original Song: “The Wrestler”
Best Sound Editing: “The Dark Knight”
Best Sound Mixing: “The Dark Knight”
Best Visual Effects: “The Curious Case of Benjamin Button”
Best Animated Feature Film: “WALL-E”
Best Documentary Feature: “Man on Wire”
Best Foreign Language Film: “Captain Abu Raed”

I wouldn't be happy with a lot of that. I'm just not in love with Slumdog. It's not even Danny Boyle's best work. And what's with Defiance?


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Last year he predicted Into the Wild to win Picture, S. Actor, S. Actress and Song around the same time. He also insisted that Letters from Iwo Jima would win from about early December, stopped when it was snubbed by the Guilds, then went back to predicting it all the way to Oscar night.

The man has made some smart predictions in the past (here he went 7/18 nearly four months prior), but he's also made some very, very dumb predictions.

That said, I do think Slumdog has an excellent chance at winning.


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I really wish that I liked Slumdog more. It's a good film, maybe even great, but its so fuckin' conventional.


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I really wish that I liked Slumdog more. It's a good film, maybe even great, but its so fuckin' conventional.


And that tells you some more about Oscars I guess. Boyle has been making good films for some time now, but in order to finally convince the Academy that he's worth it, he had to make something more conventional, I suppose (note: I haven't seen the film yet).

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loyalfromlondon wrote:
I really wish that I liked Slumdog more. It's a good film, maybe even great, but its so fuckin' conventional.


And that tells you some more about Oscars I guess. Boyle has been making good films for some time now, but in order to finally convince the Academy that he's worth it, he had to make something more conventional, I suppose (note: I haven't seen the film yet).


For an R rated film (and during our Q&A last weekend, we all asked the moderator how on earth it didn't earn a PG-13), it's pretty paint by number Disney.


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Yeah, I can see Slumdog pulling a Crash. But now Benjamin Button pushing its way into the picture.

If it were Milk vs. Slumdog for Best Picture, I could definitely see a 2005 repeat.

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The year is basically a mix of 1975 and 2005.

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Anton Chigurh wrote:
The year is basically a mix of 1975 and 2005.

not really, i think its TDKs race to lose, not wide open.

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