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At this point I see the last spot going to either Babel or Good German ( the lack of much details/footage is quite odd )

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Babel
The Departed
Flags of Our Fathers
Little Children
Babel

If you ask me, that's a very believable top 5. I could see Dreamgirls gettin there instead of either Babel/Little Children but really, 5 October films would be sweeeet!

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My dream line up:
Children of Men
The Departed
The Fountain
The Prestige
United 93

What's going to happen:

The Departed
Dreamgirls
Flags of our Fathers
United 93
And something we don't know much about yet (The Prestige, The Good German, Zodiac are all big possibilites)


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yoshue wrote:
Kris Tapley hinting at Flags:.


Does anybody take anything this guy says at all seriously (other than the loons at OW)? Tapley's a hopeless shill for whatever flavour of the moment movie ('The Last King of Scotland'!!) takes his gimlet eyed fancy. I don't think I've ever come across such an awful, clueless, smugly self-satisfied Oscar-prognosticator. One thing you can usually be sure of, if Tapley raves about something the movie will be lucky to be on the radar come Oscar time.


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Raffiki wrote:
Babel
The Departed
Flags of Our Fathers
Little Children
Babel

If you ask me, that's a very believable top 5. I could see Dreamgirls gettin there instead of either Babel/Little Children but really, 5 October films would be sweeeet!


Babel can't be THAT good and get two noms! :D

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Raffiki wrote:
Babel
The Departed
Flags of Our Fathers
Little Children
Babel

If you ask me, that's a very believable top 5. I could see Dreamgirls gettin there instead of either Babel/Little Children but really, 5 October films would be sweeeet!


Babel can't be THAT good and get two noms! :D



But it's really going to get one nom, since he's kind of overdue and the movie just screams BP nomination (if not win) with that storyline... :smile:


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All updated.

Marie Antoinette had a grade change. One of it's rottens was changed to a fresh.

I am very impressed with the quality we are getting, so far. I hope it continues all season.

Can't believe this thread is already up to 10,000 views.


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Sasha Stone likes FOOF very much as well.

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haha...I just posted that. I wasn't sure if it was Sasha or not.


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Go Marie Antoinette! :happy:


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Sasha Stone's piece:

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“The Queen” and “Flags” both have the power to change our point of view. In the adept hands of Helen Mirren, who won’t come away from “The Queen” with greater understanding, sympathy and compassion for Queen Elizabeth? Where we regarded her as an ice queen – unloving towards her son and jealous of Diana, she has re-emerged as a woman sworn to a lifetime’s duty; a woman who is more comfortable with a gaggle of dogs roaming the countryside, completely alone than she would be courting the world’s attention like Diana did. Many of us had no clue as to what might have been really going on in her heart and mind; we assumed. And perhaps we assumed wrongly. Mirren will very likely win the Oscar. It’s hard to imagine any performance better than this one.


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And that brings us to “United 93” and why it’s such a great film. Where there was the opportunity to make mythic creatures out of those passengers who joined forces to stand up to the hijackers – they were people, like you and me. Frail men and women who mustered up the fight in themselves to do the right thing. What is so interesting about Greengrass’ approach is that he refuses to idolize any of them, not even the guy who famously said “Let’s roll.” Wouldn’t it have been so much easier to do that? A shortcut to an emotional release? As it was, we are left again with reality.


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Top to bottom, all three films are unsentimental portraits of real people and real events. And somehow, they end up being tremendously moving. But more than that, they teach us valuable lessons about our lives, the choices we make, the leaders we elect. The leaders we don’t elect but serve us anyway. If this year’s Oscars takes us down this road, it will be a road less traveled where Hollywood films are concerned; but it is a necessary, unforgettable one.

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Damn. It's going to suck seeing Winslet be nominated and lose once again.

This woman deserves more! :cry:

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MikeQ. wrote:
Damn. It's going to suck seeing Winslet be nominated and lose once again.

This woman deserves more! :cry:

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Well, she might still have a chance, considering past winners and the fact that she's incredibly overdue (even more than Mirren)... *prays* :sad:


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Kate's not going to lose.

Updated.

Little Children continue to gain and gain.

Marie Antoinette continues to get good reviews.

Infamous got a few good ones added.


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What I find interesting is that Marie Antoinette and Little Children were almost doomed a couple of weeks back - but have come back strong. I was seriously expecting them to rotten at RT from the reviews/news ive read. Didnt realise they are now performing well.

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Little Children received a few more positives. It continues to impressively climb in it's rating.


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Wow, I hadn't actually realized that Little Children had climbed so well. It's at 85% at RT, with 89% COTC. That's awesome.

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Babel received it's second negative review. I believe it was from Slant.


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Maverikk wrote:
Babel received it's second negative review. I believe it was from Slant.



Predictable... :tongue: see? It's locked. :biggrin:


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Ok, Oscar fans, Flags of Our Fathers is now being linked and charted, so if you direct your attention to the chart, you can see it's current rating.


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The average grade for Flags ain't too good, but I go ahead and assume that the negative review brought it down by a lot.

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Yeah, Poland's review is probably scored a 2. Also Levy adjusted his grade down to A-.

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An interesting article at Oscarwatch.com. Not sure who she's talking about when she says about "ALL" having egg on their face over Munich, but it wasn't me, as I never gave it much of a chance. I couldn't agree more with what she says here. I've done my share of preaching about it.

http://www.oscarwatch.com/predictions/2 ... t_you.html

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A girl learns a lot after watching Oscar for these eight years. Oscarwatch has been here longer than most, longer than Movie City News, The Envelope, Carpetbagger, USA Today, etc. Back in the day, Oscarwatching was not taken about as seriously as the Hollywood Stock Exchange; it was just a game. But it changed once the mainstream media got involved. Now, it seems to be taken much more as fact and weird shit keeps happening. There is a huge disconnect between what is going on here on the web and what is happening with the Academy. It isn't unlike the difference between how Queen Elizabeth viewed Diana's death and the way the media and the public covered the aftermath. Okay, so it's not THAT big, but there are similarities.

Last year, we ALL had egg on our face regarding Munich. Though Spielberg's good name, a forceful publicity campaign got it nominated in the end, anyone who saw it could have told you, it ain't an Oscar best pic winner. But did that stop all of us from predicting it prematurely? And have we learned our lesson? In a way, yes. Now there is a reaction in the opposite direction. Everyone was so sure Flags of Our Fathers would be the Munich of this year (or, as the whisper campaign is already generating, the Jarhead of this year) that much was spewed prematurely regarding the film's failure.

It's ALL TOO EARLY TO MAKE THE CALL. Anne Thompson talks about this on Risky Business and she has a point: she says, why not judge the film on its merits rather than our expectations of it? What Eastwood is trying to say/do with this film is so much bigger than an awards show. It remains, so far, the only pic in the race that is about something "important."

The film hasn't even opened yet and it has already gone up, then down, and now is coming back up again, thanks to the Trades.

Premature killing of a picture before it even hits theaters is, in my humble opinion, as wrong as anything. What does it do but serve egos? How else can it be explained except that it shows others that you were right or wrong. And so? What does that do ultimately?

Lucky me I get to write whatever the hell I want because god knows the mainstream media covering the Oscars ignores this site (except that they all read it - they just pretend they don't). I am not worried about whether or not people think I'm wrong or right. What I do care about, though, is that a project like Flags of Our Fathers deserves better coverage than nasty attacks before they have a chance to be seen by the general public. What I don't get is why the studios allow people to see their films early? Is it because they're afraid if we don't see them early we won't cover them?

This week, Flags' reviews will start trickling in. And then, and only then, ought the movie be examined as to its Oscar potential. Back in the day, no one dared kill a film before its opening. The times, they have a-changed.


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Way too early to worry about flags. In a couple of days its average rating should improve dramatically.

Im now gunning for Fountain to get itself above 60% and into fresh teritory :)

Isnt it about time The Prestige starts getting reviews. Its out in 2 weeks like Flags.

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Updated.

Marie Antoinette received another positive at RT. Infamous received a negative. Both are now also being charted at metacritic. Infamous is starting out "ok" and Marie Antoinette is starting slow, just like it did at RT.

A Good Year also got another positive at RT.


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