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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Inception sure seems to be popular with the kids (ie: the under 30 set), but fortunately the Academy is made up of a more mature thoughtful group. Once the fad wears thin, and the backlash starts to set in, Inception will be nowhere in sight come nomination time.
(Plus, there's no way in hell that horrendous score is nominated.)
Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:05 am
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Bradley Witherberry wrote:
Inception sure seems to be popular with the kids (ie: the under 30 set), but fortunately the Academy is made up of a more mature thoughtful group. Once the fad wears thin, and the backlash starts to set in, Inception will be nowhere in sight come nomination time.
(Plus, there's no way in hell that horrendous score is nominated.)
Blah blah blah blah pretentious contrarian performance art for the sake of being weird cakes
Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:10 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Maybe he does it for you, Libs.
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Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:17 pm
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shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element
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Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:49 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Libs wrote:
Bradley Witherberry wrote:
Inception sure seems to be popular with the kids (ie: the under 30 set), but fortunately the Academy is made up of a more mature thoughtful group. Once the fad wears thin, and the backlash starts to set in, Inception will be nowhere in sight come nomination time.
(Plus, there's no way in hell that horrendous score is nominated.)
Blah blah blah blah pretentious contrarian performance art for the sake of being weird cakes
Director Christopher Nolan is such a master movie technician -- a combination of engineer, architect, game designer and God -- that it's startling to realize how constricted his vision is and how clumsily he tells stories....
Managing all these nested levels of narrative is a marvelously nerdy accomplishment, no doubt -- but this is the most tight-assed vision of the innermost human psyche I've ever seen....
It inhabits a Philip K. Dick-style universe of psychological warfare that suggests "The Matrix," "Total Recall" and "Minority Report" -- all of them, by the way, better movies -- but it's fairer to call "Inception" a maze movie or a labyrinth movie than a puzzle movie. Because, as the wisecracking fellow critic sitting next to me observed, every time the story gets puzzling the characters call a timeout and explain it.
So, yeah, if you approach "Inception" with lowered expectations it's a pretty good time. Problem is, there are no lowered expectations around Christopher Nolan, whose adherents have proclaimed him as the heir to Kubrick and Hitchcock and declared "Inception" a masterpiece. I don't want to get sidetracked here, but let me suggest that the comparisons aren't entirely misguided. They're just not helpful. Nolan has inherited some of Kubrick and Hitchcock's worst tendencies, most notably their defensive, compulsive inclination to work everything out about their stories and characters to the last detail, as if human beings and the world were algebraic or geometrical phenomena requiring a solution.
But the mysterious power of Hitchcock's "Vertigo" cannot be explained by the ludicrous official story revealed in the final act -- indeed, it nearly scotches the whole movie -- and the attack of "The Birds" is never explained. As Kubrick's career progressed he was increasingly drawn to stories that defied or challenged rational analysis, like "2001: A Space Odyssey" or "The Shining." (I think I'd put "Full Metal Jacket" and "Eyes Wide Shut" in that category too, but let's discuss some other time.) Nolan seems to have learned exactly the wrong lessons from these mentors. For all the complexity, craftsmanship and color of "Inception," it's yet another of his ultra-serious schematic constructions with no soul, no sex and almost no joy, all about some tormented dude struggling with his ill-managed Freudian demons. That same guy sitting next to me cracked that Nolan needs to stop seeing a therapist; there's not nearly enough sublimation in his movies....
So the themes, ideas and characters of "Inception" are all introduced with brilliant economy, along with its moral and philosophical universe. And then Nolan proceeds to hammer them relentlessly into the ground with an increasingly clumsy, clunky plot and an allegedly profound mystery that just sort of fizzles out into what-if-this-world-isn't-real sophomoric musing....
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Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:37 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Bradley Witherberry wrote:
Libs wrote:
Bradley Witherberry wrote:
Inception sure seems to be popular with the kids (ie: the under 30 set), but fortunately the Academy is made up of a more mature thoughtful group. Once the fad wears thin, and the backlash starts to set in, Inception will be nowhere in sight come nomination time.
(Plus, there's no way in hell that horrendous score is nominated.)
Blah blah blah blah pretentious contrarian performance art for the sake of being weird cakes
Talk to me after the Oscars next March.
No. I don't like you.
Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:59 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Libs wrote:
No. I don't like you.
Who said anything about "liking" - - ewwww! - - I'm talking about the fact that Inception has no chance of winning anything other than maybe a technical Oscar next year.
Anybody that said that it would win a major is a little naive or dim. Though, I suppose I could see an Original Screenplay win. Maybe. DGA and LAFCA like Nolan, but I doubt that too. I'd actually be more against a Screenplay win than anything else. It does have plot holes and is a tad mechanical for a film about dreams.
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Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:13 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Its gross and reviews among the heavyweights is going to get it a best picture nom.
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Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:17 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
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It has not shot at winning the majors. All I care about is nominations though for BD and BOS.
Neither will happen.
Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:36 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
I wonder if the Best Director lineup will be very "young and hip" this year. Say it's:
the Coen brothers S. Coppola Fincher Nolan Romanek
Two people who were in their 30s when they made their nominated film (Coppola and Nolan, though he turns 40 later this month). Two people very much from the music video/'90s MTV scene (Fincher and Romanek). And no one would accuse the Coens of being old-school Hollywood elite types.
It would be neat and surprising, though there are lots of potential spoilers (Eastwood, Leigh), as well as the fact no one has seen Somewhere or True Grit.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:26 am
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
After watching it again and paying particular attention to awards consideration, I think it's Editing chances are much higher than I previously thought. Could pull a Bourne.
The best acting performances in the movie are - imo - Cillian Murphy & Marion Cotillard. Nobody else gave an award-worthy performance (well neither did the first two really), which can be partially blamed on the excessive exposition.
trixster: I think Tron has visual effects locked up...the trailer alone would win...
"It's gonna make 300 million dollars and win best visual effects and Daft Pank will win best original score and Jeff Bridges will win his second consecutive Oscar not for True Grit but for TRON: LEGACY."
It's as locked as Transformers or Revenge of the Sith or Matrix Reloaded were.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:20 am
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Lol Tron. Its easy to make something we've never seen before look real.
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:48 am
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
If there are five nominees, will The Last Airbender be nominated for Best VFX?
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Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:49 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
So it'll be...
Harry Potter Inception Tron
And 2 of these:
Iron Man 2 (probably) Alice in Wonderland (probably) Clash of the Titans Last Airbender Voyage of Dawn Treader
I'm not a tron looney by any stretch, but it's going to win the category - no doubt in my mind - just by sheer lack of competition.
Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:27 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
I think Cotillard deserves a nom.
The role is actually really hard to play when you think of it, she has to be both weak and powerful without being too strongly of either at any point of time- and she succeeded at that. I don't think many actresses could pull it off.
But this is the Academy we're talking about and I'm on WOKJ so whatever.
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:31 am
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Tyler wrote:
Anybody that said that it would win a major is a little naive or dim. Though, I suppose I could see an Original Screenplay win. Maybe. DGA and LAFCA like Nolan, but I doubt that too. I'd actually be more against a Screenplay win than anything else. It does have plot holes and is a tad mechanical for a film about dreams.
Like what?
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If you interpret it to be about dreams, there are no plot holes.
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Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:50 pm
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Re: Inception Oscars Thread
Bradley Witherberry wrote:
Inception sure seems to be popular with the kids (ie: the under 30 set), but fortunately the Academy is made up of a more mature thoughtful group. Once the fad wears thin, and the backlash starts to set in, Inception will be nowhere in sight come nomination time.
(Plus, there's no way in hell that horrendous score is nominated.)
This video gave me a newfound appreciation for Inception's score. I wouldn't count it out.
Now Best Original Screenplay, on the other hand, seems just as unlikely as an acting nod. Really, the best possible scenario I could see is Inception getting nominated for Best Picture (and maaaaaybe Director. This is the ceiling, right?) and winning Best Editing, Visual Effects and Sound Editing.
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