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 The Dark Knight Will NOT Be Nominated for BP Club 
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This thread will now be re-purposed to link to crazy violent outbreaks on the internets over the stunning, unforseeable (hah) snub of Christopher Nolan's magnum opus, a film so mind-bogglingly brilliant...that it wasn't even as good as The Prestige.

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Let's see how legendary superdouche Kris Tapley is doing this morning:

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The short reply is the easy reply: the Academy has embarrassed itself this day. Eight nominations across the tech branches and a tip of the hat for Heath Ledger will be the Oscar legacy of “The Dark Knight.” The director — shunned. The writers — shunned. The film as a Best Picture nominee, pulling this crusty membership out of irrelevance? A pipe dream.

And I saw it coming. I saw this sense of rigid stupidity and ignorance coming, but I just…I didn’t have the heart to predict against the grain. I bought into the hype. I thought the Academy could be a fresh organization. Clearly, it cannot. And it proves as much year after year after year

These people should have their cards taken away. This member-for-life shit has to go because you end up with crotchety fools that have no idea what good cinema is, let alone a care about how their organization’s choices will be looked upon in the future. Years from now, “The Reader” will be a blip on the map of film obscurity. “The Dark Knight” will live on in infamy as one of the year’s titans, both a popular blockbuster and a critically acclaimed work of art.

What an absolute tragedy.



lol. What a stupid asshole.

I like how it sometimes sounds like he's writing this on September 12, 2001.

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Hahahaha.

Bitter tears, bitter tears.

It's just a movie.

Remember these are the same people who let Crash win Best Picture. Are people really surprised?


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yoshue wrote:
Let's see how legendary superdouche Kris Tapley is doing this morning:

a bag of tools wrote:
The short reply is the easy reply: the Academy has embarrassed itself this day. Eight nominations across the tech branches and a tip of the hat for Heath Ledger will be the Oscar legacy of “The Dark Knight.” The director — shunned. The writers — shunned. The film as a Best Picture nominee, pulling this crusty membership out of irrelevance? A pipe dream.

And I saw it coming. I saw this sense of rigid stupidity and ignorance coming, but I just…I didn’t have the heart to predict against the grain. I bought into the hype. I thought the Academy could be a fresh organization. Clearly, it cannot. And it proves as much year after year after year

These people should have their cards taken away. This member-for-life shit has to go because you end up with crotchety fools that have no idea what good cinema is, let alone a care about how their organization’s choices will be looked upon in the future. Years from now, “The Reader” will be a blip on the map of film obscurity. “The Dark Knight” will live on in infamy as one of the year’s titans, both a popular blockbuster and a critically acclaimed work of art.

What an absolute tragedy.



lol. What a stupid asshole.

I like how it sometimes sounds like he's writing this on September 12, 2001.


Yeah I loved TDK and think its snub is annoying but that is just ridiculous hyperbole. Get over yourself Tapley.


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Why are people all angry about The Reader anyway. You could make the same arguments for why the other 4 films were nominated... why not Milk or Button or Millionaire or Nixon?


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I think very few people here have even seen The Reader. I haven't. snack is an angry exception.

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I think he's right in many regards. The AMPAS should be rewarding the best films of a given year, regardless of genre. And for the most part, I think they manage to find a balance between recognition and folding to publicity ploys.

The problem is two-fold. One, TDK missed out. But even worse, it missed out to The Reader, a film that has less visibility than Frost/Nixon. What's the point of all the hupla of a worldwide broadcast when the films you're heralding aren't widely seen. Seems very counter-productive.

Take a poll of your friends and family. How many of the nominated 5 films have they seen? 2? 1? It's certainly not a popularity contest, the Oscars have never been popcorn. But when you do have that rare popcorn film that crosses over, they've never failed to acknowledge it (Jaws, Star Wars, ET, Raiders, Titanic, Forrest Gump, LOTR)...until now.


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Honestly, even people who didn't want this movie to be nominated should be at least a bit saddened... this, in my mind, is concrete evidence that the Academy is not willing to go for every type of film, even if it's good enough. Maybe if the next Batman movie gets equally strong reviews and equal box office, but I know I won't be predicting it.


Actually, that's kind of how I feel. I thought it was overrated or something, but nominating a dour holocaust film produced by Harvey and directed by Daldry (that was released to pretty lukewarm reception) just feels like a parody of themselves, and a little mean. Like, there's a lack of taste, and there's a lack of class.


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Quality issues aside, when a film with little visibility gets in over a megahit like The Dark Knight, it is, on some level, a win for the nominating system.

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On the other hand, Oscar baiting Weinstein Holocaust movies getting in...not so much.

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I think he's right in many regards. The AMPAS should be rewarding the best films of a given year, regardless of genre. And for the most part, I think they manage to find a balance between recognition and folding to publicity ploys.

The problem is two-fold. One, TDK missed out. But even worse, it missed out to The Reader, a film that has less visibility than Frost/Nixon. What's the point of all the hupla of a worldwide broadcast when the films you're heralding aren't widely seen. Seems very counter-productive.

Take a poll of your friends and family. How many of the nominated 5 films have they seen? 2? 1? It's certainly not a popularity contest, the Oscars have never been popcorn. But when you do have that rare popcorn film that crosses over, they've never failed to acknowledge it (Jaws, Star Wars, ET, Raiders, Titanic, Forrest Gump, LOTR)...until now.
good post.

But looking at that list of films, you gotta admit that they have a much more "Oscar-y" feel than TDK. At least I can understand why it missed out, even if I'm really upset that it did.

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That's exactly it though. If it was The Wrestler it'd be a victory for the smaller movie and thinking outside the box. This feels like a win for the ogliarchy.


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yoshue wrote:
I think very few people here have even seen The Reader. I haven't. snack is an angry exception.

The film is not perfect. I haven't seen Milk but it's my least favorite of the four. I'm happy for it though. Winslett is incredible in it and the first 2/3 of the film are rock solid IMO.


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I have to see Frost/Nixon and The Reader. Milk is easily my favorite of the nominees so far.

It's funny, I had not anticipated even seeing The Reader, but I guess it will open here now.

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I still have yet to see Milk. I was hoping for a re-opening with the nominations.

I'll be surprised if you dislike Frost/Nixon yoshue.

I said a lot of things about Slumdog after I saw it, that I've since backed down on a bit, but Frost/Nixon continues to grow on me as I live with it.


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Wonder how the AICN talkbacks are doing?

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no dark knight for director or best picture = academy insanity. haven't they gotten it through their pretentious skulls yet that the general public only give a shit about the oscars when a super smash hit is nominated in the major awards. if memory serves, the highest rated viewership in recent history was when titanic was nominated for everything.


I'll never understand the arguments that say AMPAS should follow box office. Thats what we should be against, not for. Why should we care about ratings? If its a quest for ratings, it's the People's Choice Awards. AMPAS should be like the Supreme Court. We should want them autonomous, for better or worse.

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The Visitor: $9.4m total boxoffice
Frozen River: $2.3m

Frost/Nixon: $8.8m

The Reader: 7.9m

Rachel Getting Married: $10.7m

The Wrestler: $5.5m

The Dark Knight: $531 million If that's not just bending and submitting to the arthouse circuit, I'm not sure what does.


Well, actually, TDK got 8 noms to RGM's 1. So if that's not just bending and submitting to the blockbuster mall-dweller circuit, I'm not sure what does. His grammatical error, not mine.

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It's been 10 years since Harvey W. orchestrated the theft of the Oscar from the classic Saving Private Ryan for his whispy romance Shakespeare in Love. Now he is at it again with The Reader. Certainly not a bad film, but not a memorable one either. 10 years from now, people will look back and say "how did that happen?"


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I guess it goes to show that elitism is alive and well.By the way good luck with 2009 Academy Award show , because the Academy is going to need it. The ratings are going to dismal to say the least.

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I feel bad for Bill Condon, all this talk about wanting to bring viewership back to the Oscars. Good luck with that.


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I adore Shakespeare in Love and thought it was much superior to Saving Private Ryan. Can we not go there, though? Please?

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I'll back up yoshue.


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yoshue wrote:
I adore Shakespeare in Love and thought it was much superior to Saving Private Ryan. Can we not go there, though? Please?

I can see how SPR doesn't excite you. It's not really a "great" film past the first 25 minutes. But Shakespeare a good film? urgh.

Is it fair that I say I'd rather of had TRL win?


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Those bookends in Ryan were horrible. What other film recently had bookends. Hmmm.


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Shakespeare is completely frivolous, but thoroughly smart and witty and sexy and charming. I'm always a big supporter of frivolous things winning Oscars.

As for TRL, I'd disagree, but as long as you don't say Life is Beautiful, I don't care.

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Eff you Yoshue for being right.


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Guys, it's a BATMAN SEQUEL. Ten years removed from a Schumacher. We should all be ashamed of even considering the possibility.

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