There is an openly gay rapper, don't recall his name. And I'm sure several female rappers are lesbians, underwraps of course.

Anyway, this group has a right to exclude BBM. Not because of the gay content but because Ennis and Jack were cheating whores. Not any different than the characters in Closer.

But there's always room to create something new and do something different. Maybe there aren't a ton of openly gay hip-hop artists but what 50 is saying is that there is no room for them in hip-hop; that they can't be because hip-hop isn't about that, it's about violence and drugs and bitches.

A recommended site would be http://www.gayhiphop.com .


This is from a search I did on gay hip hop:

Some critics have argued that hip hop is often characterized by a sort of hyper-masculinity and that its lyrics sometimes reflect a homophobic mindset. Openly gay or lesbian artists in the genre are exceedingly rare, to the point of presumed nonexistence. It is, however, often suspected that there are a great number of gay or lesbian hip hop musicians who do not come out of the closet for fear of the decline of their career. Rumors of such have involved hip hop artists such as Queen Latifah, Da Brat, and several others. In 2003 the first openly gay hip hop and rap artist, Caushun, was signed to a major label; his record and career were not successful.

I really don't like it when people compare homosexuality to race issues. Race does not affect behavior, while homosexuality affects your actions.

Private actions.

Or, does hand holding in public make you squirmish?

Ah, yes, I forgot. I mean, being gay for Mike hasn't changed his behavior at all.

The sex. He means the sex.

Race and homosexuality. I dont care what Jerry Falwell or Michael Jackson say: neither is a choice. Both have resulted in the demonizing and ostrazcising and persecution of a large group of people. Both have been subect to the hatred of the radical right, just at different times.

People don't like comparing the two because our extreme advances in the area of civil rights and treatment of african-americans have made it a devastating-for-their-argument, but nevertheless accurate, comparison.

I don't think it's ever been proven that you can't help it. I personally don't see it as genetic, but I haven't seen any studies.

Ever been in love? Did you make a conscious choice to love that person, or did it just kinda happen?

Furthermore, do you choose exactly when and through what means you get an erection?

The question is:

Does Michael Jackson believe that plastic surgery is genetic or a choice?

I hope Mike or Sam refrain from entering this thread now I don't want another war.

Anyway, I was just thinking, they should really change the title from "American Values" to "Christian Values", since it is pretty insulting to assume that all Americans (or even most) cherish these principles.

You think anyone in America would be insulted by celebrating "love, honor, commitment, good versus evil, and the triumph of the human spirit," "character, integrity, and overcoming prejudice."

Or rather, you think those are only "Christian" values?

Cuz despite what this thread may have become, according to the first post these awards are supposed to recognize that stuff.

It's obvious who's behind these awards, so I just thought it would be fitting to have the title reflect that. You think "End of the Spear" is a film with "integrity"? Please.

Well, of course. But my point is whoever these people are, or whatever the films they choose, I think what they are trying for is not something the average american would be against. Their goal, anyway, is to reward those values. I just don't think there's anything that is Christianity-exclusive with the choices or program. It's admittedly conservative, so maybe change it to Conservative-American Awards or something, but I dunno. I guess I just don't see anything wrong with the whole thing.

I guess I don't see the difference between this and the GLAAD awards, Image awards or any other awards show who's first agenda is to first discount a whole lot of movies based on their political content.

Brokeback Mountain isn't really a family movie any way you cut it in the same way Million Dollar Baby isn't a family movie.

To me the most puzzling thing is this:


And while I'm glad that a film like Millions can get any exposure it can possibly get, coming from the genius Danny Boyle, I'm sure I'm one of like 10 Americans who has actually seen it.

So I guess you are fine with discriminating against christians, cause you have a choice not to be christian, right?

Fine for you if I say that I don´t like hanging out with those damn christians, right? I suppose It is, then.

There is no difference, except GLAAD makes it exceptionally clear where they stand and what their agenda is. Don' get me wrong or anything, I'm no anti love, integrity, etc (lol), but I just don't like it when a group of Conservatives try to pass their definition of those values as "American". It basically implies that if you disagree with them, you're un-American.

bleh

this is no different from the black awards, the gay awards, teh good christian awards ....sigh ... who the hell cares if these guys nominate BBM or not.