The Oscar Throwdown Thread (Formerly The BFCA Thread)
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Box
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Well, at least you're not exhausted.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:24 pm |
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andaroo1
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I am so serveing pudding and fudge at my Oscar party.
This is turning into Brokeback Mountain comedy hour!
Next week, we can get all beastial with Kong.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:24 pm |
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Libs
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I'm wondering if The Family Stone wasn't screened for them. I mean, besides the snub of Keaton, the cast of Rent actually got a nomination instead of this film. I liked Rent but it was hardly well-reviewed or anything.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:24 pm |
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Maverikk
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Goldie wrote: Yes, even though KONG got a Best Picture nomination - no Watts.
Does anybody really believe Watts will get nominated for reprising a role that Fay Wray will always own? I guess I've just never seen it. 
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:25 pm |
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I think it has a lot to do with the field, not to mention a supposedly strong performance.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:29 pm |
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Box
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Maverikk wrote: Goldie wrote: Yes, even though KONG got a Best Picture nomination - no Watts. Does anybody really believe Watts will get nominated for reprising a role that Fay Wray will always own? I guess I've just never seen it. 
Fay Wray
They might treat it like Cate Blanchett playing Katherine Hepburn; ie honouring a great actress with a great performance.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:31 pm |
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andaroo1
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Yeah, the field is super-duper weak.
I also hear Naomi Watts takes this performance to places that Wray didn't go.
After seeing Kong again on Thursday, I would say that is entirely possible.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:31 pm |
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Box
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andaroo wrote: I am so serveing pudding and fudge at my Oscar party.
This is turning into Brokeback Mountain comedy hour!
Next week, we can get all beastial with Kong.
And don't forget, once the New World comes to the foreground, we'll have a grown man lusting after a 14 year old! W00t!
Truly, we're covering a great range this year 
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:33 pm |
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Raffiki
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Maverikk wrote: Goldie wrote: Yes, even though KONG got a Best Picture nomination - no Watts. Does anybody really believe Watts will get nominated for reprising a role that Fay Wray will always own? I guess I've just never seen it. 
I'd go as far as saying they'd award her for bringing in one of the most iconic female characters in Hollywood into the 21st entury possibly doing it better and with more substance.
I don't think we hould be looking at King Kong as the blockbuster anymore, even though it is, but moreso the spectacle nom. And the Academy sure does love its spectacles (Titanic, LOTR) but this may be just 1 year too soon.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:34 pm |
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Box wrote: andaroo wrote: I am so serveing pudding and fudge at my Oscar party.
This is turning into Brokeback Mountain comedy hour!
Next week, we can get all beastial with Kong. And don't forget, once the New World comes to the foreground, we'll have a grown man lusting after a 14 year old! W00t! Truly, we're covering a great range this year 
you can do a Twofer, and have a 14 year old boy.
If only Polanski was nominated, we could take this full circle...jerk.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:40 pm |
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Maverikk
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andaroo wrote: Yeah, the field is super-duper weak.
I also hear Naomi Watts takes this performance to places that Wray didn't go.
After seeing Kong again on Thursday, I would say that is entirely possible.
Yeah, but what actor or actress today doesn't bury performances from that era? The craft of acting has evolved. I still think it would be a bit of a slap to Fay Wray for inventing the character and immortalizing it to hand out glory to Noami Watts for playing the same character.
It wouldn't bother me if she did get a nomination, but will the uptight academy do something like that to take away from one of their legends, because accolades for Watts that Wray didn't get kinda does that.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:41 pm |
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andaroo1
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Box wrote: andaroo wrote: I am so serveing pudding and fudge at my Oscar party.
This is turning into Brokeback Mountain comedy hour!
Next week, we can get all beastial with Kong. And don't forget, once the New World comes to the foreground, we'll have a grown man lusting after a 14 year old! W00t! Truly, we're covering a great range this year  you can do a Twofer, and have a 14 year old boy. If only Polanski was nominated, we could take this full circle...jerk.
Now that could be a Twist...
An OLIVER TWIST

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Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:42 pm |
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xiayun
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Libs wrote: I'm wondering if The Family Stone wasn't screened for them. I mean, besides the snub of Keaton, the cast of Rent actually got a nomination instead of this film. I liked Rent but it was hardly well-reviewed or anything.
It's screened, since they scored it a 78, which is low in BFCA standard. With that low score, I think it's understandable that they didn't nominate it for anything, even though I'm still surprised at Keaton's snub.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:25 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Now what's up with their screwed up noms? Memoirs of a Geisha is for them like last year The Phantom of the Opera. They just nominated it because of its degree. You know I considered that it might happen, but thought that BFCA won't make the same mistake two years in a row. That's just moronic, seriously. Can anyone find a worse reviewed movie to ever be nominated for Best Picture at BFCA? I doubt that....
Now the rest of the thoughts...
Considering it is very very rare that the Best Picture nominee is not among the Top 10 of BFCA this was a very hard hit for The New World and Match Point.
Crash is still in the race as I have predicted all the way and I still can easily see it getting a Best Picture nom at the Oscars. Cinderella Man is very well alive too.
Things are generally not looking good for Munich, especially with Eric Bana not being nominated. I think he's even less certain now than David Straitharn.
Russell Crowe is back in the race.
Best Actress looks pretty much as I expected to me. I didn't expect to see Watts there and I still don't expect her to get an Oscar nod for Kong. I think everyone nominated here will get an Oscar nod, except for Theron.
Best Supporting Actor... some love for Crash there. Costner is surprisingly back in the race too and it's looking good for Giamatti now. Jeff Daniels is nowhere to be seen, though.
Best Supporting Actress really puzzles me because the three who I have considered frontrunners and locks for noms are not there: Diane Keaton, Gong Li and Scarlett Johansson. I can't imagine the Academy snubbing Keaton, though, no way. But Amy Adams' chances are increasing with each day.
Rent getting a Best Acting Ensemble nod over The Family Stone is a shame, but they got Sin City there which is amazing!
Now Best Director....that's a HUGE boost for Crash and Cinderella Man, but also really hard hits for Malick and Allen, especially for the latter. If he misses out on NY Critics Awards, he is pretty much out...
Also, I'm glad to see Emma Watson being nominated for Harry Potter and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang for Best Comedy.
John Williams did end up with a Score nom for Memoirs of a Geisha, certifying his status for the Oscars.
Overall:
The awards gave huge boosts to Cinderella Man and Crash as well as to Good Night, and Good Luck. The latter is almost locked in for a Best Pucture nom now, after getting Best Ensemble, Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor and Best Writing here.
The big losers are Match Point, The Family Stone and The New World and to a lesser extent Munich and King Kong.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:13 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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 Re: BFCA Nominees - Brokeback and Crash Lead Noms
My predictions:
BEST PICTURE:
Good Night, and Good Luck.
BEST ACTOR:
Heath Ledger – “Brokeback Mountainâ€Â
BEST ACTRESS:
Reese Witherspoon – “Walk the Lineâ€Â
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR:
Jake Gyllenhaal – “Brokeback Mountainâ€Â
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS:
Amy Adams – “Junebugâ€Â
BEST ACTING ENSEMBLE:
Crash
BEST DIRECTOR:
Ang Lee – “Brokeback Mountainâ€Â
BEST WRITER:
George Clooney and Grant Heslov – “Good Night, and Good Luck.â€Â
BEST ANIMATED FEATURE:
“Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbitâ€Â
BEST YOUNG ACTOR:
Jesse Eisenberg – “The Squid and the Whaleâ€Â
BEST YOUNG ACTRESS:
Q'Orianka Kilcher – “The New Worldâ€Â
BEST COMEDY MOVIE:
The Producers
BEST FAMILY FILM (LIVE ACTION):
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
BEST PICTURE MADE FOR TELEVISION:
Into the West
BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM:
Oldboy
BEST SONG:
“Seasons of Love†– Tracie Thoms, Jesse L. Martin and Cast – “Rentâ€Â
BEST SOUNDTRACK:
Rent
BEST COMPOSER:
Gustavo Santaolalla – “Brokeback Mountainâ€Â
BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE:
March of the Penguins
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:19 pm |
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xiayun
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Here are the BFCA scores for each film:
Brokeback Mountain - 92
Capote - 89
Cinderella Man - 92
The Constant Gardener - 90
Crash - 88
Good Night, and Good Luck. - 95
King Kong - unknown
Memoirs of a Geisha - 84
Munich - unknown
Walk the Line - 90
High scores that didn't get in:
The Squid and the Whale - 93 (a score this high had never been omitted from the final top 10)
A History of Violence - 89
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:30 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Wow, Cinderella Man was that high!?
Then again, F4 is at 85 there, so that hardly says anything.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:32 pm |
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Mr. Reynolds
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Box wrote: andaroo wrote: I am so serveing pudding and fudge at my Oscar party.
This is turning into Brokeback Mountain comedy hour!
Next week, we can get all beastial with Kong. And don't forget, once the New World comes to the foreground, we'll have a grown man lusting after a 14 year old! W00t! Truly, we're covering a great range this year 
i know you guys are joking and I am attempting to laugh but at the same time you're equating beastiality and pedophelia with homosexuality. again, i know you're trying to have fun. but just remember there are plenty of gays here. and I, for one, am sensitive to this kind of thing.
don't want to preach, so carry on. just watch it.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:48 pm |
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Ripper
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: Box wrote: andaroo wrote: I am so serveing pudding and fudge at my Oscar party.
This is turning into Brokeback Mountain comedy hour!
Next week, we can get all beastial with Kong. And don't forget, once the New World comes to the foreground, we'll have a grown man lusting after a 14 year old! W00t! Truly, we're covering a great range this year  i know you guys are joking and I am attempting to laugh but at the same time you're equating beastiality and pedophelia with homosexuality. again, i know you're trying to have fun. but just remember there are plenty of gays here. and I, for one, am sensitive to this kind of thing. don't want to preach, so carry on. just watch it.
you perplex me, they joke about this and your sensitive to it, ok I can see that, but Michal posts an article insulting Bryan Singer for his sexuality and you champoin that.
So jokes related to one being gay are bad, but discrediting a director via his sexuality is ok?
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:51 pm |
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andaroo1
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: i know you guys are joking and I am attempting to laugh but at the same time you're equating beastiality and pedophelia with homosexuality.
Do you not like pudding?
Bill Cosby does!
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Mr. Reynolds
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Ripper wrote: So jokes related to one being gay are bad, but discrediting a director via his sexuality is ok?
i didn't think that the article michael posted specifically said anything bad about singer. that's how you're interpreting it but it's not what the article said or did.
you have got to be kidding me if you think that making pudding jokes about gays in the same context as kiddie porn and sex with animals are the same thing.
like i said, i know they are kidding so don't try to make it a bigger issue than i am.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:57 pm |
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Anonymous
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: Box wrote: andaroo wrote: I am so serveing pudding and fudge at my Oscar party.
This is turning into Brokeback Mountain comedy hour!
Next week, we can get all beastial with Kong. And don't forget, once the New World comes to the foreground, we'll have a grown man lusting after a 14 year old! W00t! Truly, we're covering a great range this year  i know you guys are joking and I am attempting to laugh but at the same time you're equating beastiality and pedophelia with homosexuality. again, i know you're trying to have fun. but just remember there are plenty of gays here. and I, for one, am sensitive to this kind of thing. don't want to preach, so carry on. just watch it.
oooooooooooooooh, the pink mafia
j/k
carry on
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:01 pm |
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Box
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: Box wrote: andaroo wrote: I am so serveing pudding and fudge at my Oscar party.
This is turning into Brokeback Mountain comedy hour!
Next week, we can get all beastial with Kong. And don't forget, once the New World comes to the foreground, we'll have a grown man lusting after a 14 year old! W00t! Truly, we're covering a great range this year  i know you guys are joking and I am attempting to laugh but at the same time you're equating beastiality and pedophelia with homosexuality. again, i know you're trying to have fun. but just remember there are plenty of gays here. and I, for one, am sensitive to this kind of thing. don't want to preach, so carry on. just watch it.
Actually, you just assume that we're equating them and are thus working away from your pre-conceived assumptions.
We might just as well have thought of relationships that are not often portrayed in films that gain the Academy's attention, and all those three, along with basically all relationships that are not between a handsome man and a beautiful woman who are most likely young, fit that description.
If you want to equate homosexuality with beastiality and paedophilia, fine, that's your problem, but please don't put words into our mouths.
And what do you mean by "just remember there are plenty of gays here"? I most sincerely hope that none of them are so completely lacking of humour that they limit themselves to a narrow frame of thinking. Gays, Sam, are people too, and they too can be incredibly narrow-minded. And narrow-mindedness at any extremity is repulsive.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:03 pm |
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andaroo1
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In all honesty, if we want to reflect some of the recent heterosexual relationships that will be represented in the Oscars, we can bring ludes and beer for Walk the Line. If that makes you feel better.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:04 pm |
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Ripper
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I_Was_Your_Sam wrote: Ripper wrote: So jokes related to one being gay are bad, but discrediting a director via his sexuality is ok?
i didn't think that the article michael posted specifically said anything bad about singer. that's how you're interpreting it but it's not what the article said or did. you have got to be kidding me if you think that making pudding jokes about gays in the same context as kiddie porn and sex with animals are the same thing. like i said, i know they are kidding so don't try to make it a bigger issue than i am.
I honestly think you and I read a different article, I don't see how hiring people you sleep with is apositive thing, but apprently getting a job via fucking is just the way to go. Good to know, I want an internship this summer, i'll look for someone to fuck.
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