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 Had No Country for Old Men also been released this year... 
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Post Re: Had No Country for Old Men also been released this year...
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TDK last year, still nothing.
TWBB this year, wins (of course)
Juno? Slumdog isn't even nominated (Fox Searchlight can't push both)

I disagree about There Will Be Blood. Against Slumdog (which is passionate and accessible) the obtuse and difficult There Will Be Blood (hey that's why people liked it, is that it's complicated, right?) would likely always conquer.


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Post Re: Had No Country for Old Men also been released this year...
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roo wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
TDK last year, still nothing.
TWBB this year, wins (of course)
Juno? Slumdog isn't even nominated (Fox Searchlight can't push both)

I disagree about There Will Be Blood. Against Slumdog (which is passionate and accessible) the obtuse and difficult There Will Be Blood (hey that's why people liked it, is that it's complicated, right?) would likely always conquer.


Finally someone talks some sense.


Umm... He said TWBB would likely always conquer Slumdog...
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He disagreees with Loyal!

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He never said that.

He only quoted. Never referenced the quote.

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Post Re: Had No Country for Old Men also been released this year...
loyalfromlondon wrote:
roo wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
TDK last year, still nothing.
TWBB this year, wins (of course)
Juno? Slumdog isn't even nominated (Fox Searchlight can't push both)

I disagree about There Will Be Blood. Against Slumdog (which is passionate and accessible) the obtuse and difficult There Will Be Blood (hey that's why people liked it, is that it's complicated, right?) would likely always conquer.

The bleak has a disadvantage over the positive forward thinking frontrunner.


dark has won over light in all but two instances in the last 30 years (Annie Hall and Shakespeare in Love)?

You changed the parameters here and need to understand why. It's not light vs. dark, it's bleak vs. optimistic

Despite it's bleak center or dark themes, Forrest Gump, Titanic, Chicago, Return of the King, A Beautiful Mind, American Beauty, etc. etc. etc. always speak towards a positive/romantic/optimistic/audience friendly ending, an ending that people can take some solace in.

What I'm trying to say is that There Will Be Blood is intellectually friendly but not necessarily audience friendly. An exception to this is actually the film that beat out There Will Be Blood... but No Country was also more immediate and audience friendly even though it ended on a pretty bleak note.

It's not an all or nothing type of rule... sure, drag up some counter examples, I'm sure you can find some, but in a wagering situation, where I would have to quantifiably defend my position on choosing Slumdog or There Will Be Blood, regardless of my opinions on them as films, I think the case for Slumdog is superior to There Will Be Blood.

In the early 2000s I would have made the argument that There Will Be Blood had a better chance because the connection between lead Actor and Picture was stronger back then, but the 2000s have been unkind to that relationship, so I would personally downplay that.


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Post Re: Had No Country for Old Men also been released this year...
Chip N' Munk wrote:
Dr. Lecter wrote:
roo wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
TDK last year, still nothing.
TWBB this year, wins (of course)
Juno? Slumdog isn't even nominated (Fox Searchlight can't push both)

I disagree about There Will Be Blood. Against Slumdog (which is passionate and accessible) the obtuse and difficult There Will Be Blood (hey that's why people liked it, is that it's complicated, right?) would likely always conquer.


Finally someone talks some sense.


Umm... He said TWBB would likely always conquer Slumdog...
:er:

I meant the otherwise (I mistyped from my phone), Lecter and Loyal figured that out. I meant "the obtuse and difficult There Will Be Blood would always be conquered by the more palettable, more audience friendly film"


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