SAG Noms - Dreamgirls, Babel, Little Miss Sunshine Lead
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Michael.
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I just watched that last night. True Lies was so corny and dumb, Jamie Lee Curtis was the only performance in that movie worth watching
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xiayun
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Awards Czar Jon wrote: But at the moment Babel/Departed/Dreamgirls/Letters/Queen looks like an unbreakable five.
Actually at this moment, the lineup looks like Babel/Departed/Dreamgirls/Little Miss Sunshine/Queen. DGA will bring Letters back, but without knowing it yet, these are the five.
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Jonathan
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xiayun wrote: Awards Czar Jon wrote: But at the moment Babel/Departed/Dreamgirls/Letters/Queen looks like an unbreakable five. Actually at this moment, the lineup looks like Babel/Departed/Dreamgirls/Little Miss Sunshine/Queen. DGA will bring Letters back, but without knowing it yet, these are the five.
True dat.
Now we have to wait until TUESDAY for the ^#&*ing DGA. 
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:24 pm |
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xiayun
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Another blow to United 93, and look like it is indeed going to go guildless. I can't recall another film that receives such different treatment between critics and Hollywood.
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xiayun
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Awards Czar Jon wrote: xiayun wrote: Awards Czar Jon wrote: But at the moment Babel/Departed/Dreamgirls/Letters/Queen looks like an unbreakable five. Actually at this moment, the lineup looks like Babel/Departed/Dreamgirls/Little Miss Sunshine/Queen. DGA will bring Letters back, but without knowing it yet, these are the five. True dat. Now we have to wait until TUESDAY for the ^#&*ing DGA.  I thought the DGA was a non issue for LMS because the dual directors.
Yeah, it's not about LMS, but Letters, which we all assume will show up there, but that actually needs to happen since it has missed the first two guilds.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:31 pm |
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xiayun
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loyalfromlondon wrote: xiayun wrote: Another blow to United 93, and look like it is indeed going to go guildless. I can't recall another film that receives such different treatment between critics and Hollywood. Yeah, so sad. But really, how can you award a SAG nom to U93? It's impossible.
Ensemble was a possibility, however small. Just like Letters and The Queen, it's not expected, but would've helped if it did.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:35 pm |
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xiayun
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Sheen is too much an outsider, I think. Still has a chance, but the category is very crowded; can he get enough No. 1 votes?
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:39 pm |
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Chris
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Chris wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Things really worked out great for Murphy. It's an easy win for him.
Arkin won't win, nor will Hounsou. DiCaprio has the wrong placement, so that leaves Haley. And Murphy > Haley. The wrong placement helps DiCaprio since he is a lead and probably has more screentime than any of the other nominees. He may have more screentime than Murphy but Murphy is the only actor in the supporting race who was nominated for BFCA, HFPA and now SAG.
Still, Leo was nominated for all three awards, even if it was in a different category. I think he has enough friends within the SAG to give it to him. Murhpy is a good comeback story, but I don't see them handing him the award.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:07 pm |
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xiayun
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Right now we're looking at Babel being this year's Crash (except it won't win), The Queen = this year's Capote, and Letters = this year's Munich (ignored by all guilds except for DGA, but DGA happens to be the most accurate predictor for BP).
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Dr. Lecter
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xiayun wrote: Right now we're looking at Babel being this year's Crash (except it won't win), The Queen = this year's Capote, and Letters = this year's Munich (ignored by all guilds except for DGA, but DGA happens to be the most accurate predictor for BP).
Making Dreamgirls or LMS this year's Walk the Line? 
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dolcevita
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xiayun wrote: Right now we're looking at Babel being this year's Crash (except it won't win), The Queen = this year's Capote, and Letters = this year's Munich (ignored by all guilds except for DGA, but DGA happens to be the most accurate predictor for BP).
Letters is not this year's Munich. Its not even this year's Kong...
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:34 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Looks like the switch for DiCaprio to Supporting actually worked. The whole reason the studio did it was to make sure Leo could get in for both performances. Now he's double nominated. Also, while we thought this may screw up the SAGS, I don't think it will screw up the Oscars. Keisha Castle-Hughes was nominated for supporting at the SAGS and went on to be nominated for lead at the Oscars. The Globes and BFCA as lead for him fight against the confusion.
And one last thing about Leo: funnily enough I think he has a REALLY good chance of winning Best Supporting Actor at the SAGs now, a category that was decidedly weak with no person grabbing a "frontrunner" status like the rest of the acting categories. With 2 nominations ending up, the SAGS clearly admire DiCaprio this year, and since I don't see them giving him a win for Blood Diamond in lead, they will give him the win for The Departed in Supporting Actor. With him in the Best Actor category for The Departed, I never saw him winning. But now I can. This may boost his chances.
The Queen really got the short end of the stick here. It missed out on both Sheen and Ensemble, and has just Mirren to represent it.
Babel once again still has everything. 8 Golden Globe noms (Picture, Director and Screenplay), 7 BFCA noms (Picture and Screenplay), PGA nod and SAG Ensemble. If it grabs DGA also, like I think it will, The Departed and Babel will be the only two films that were present across the board in essentially all the important stuff.
Peace,
Mike.
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xiayun
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Dr. Lecter wrote: xiayun wrote: Right now we're looking at Babel being this year's Crash (except it won't win), The Queen = this year's Capote, and Letters = this year's Munich (ignored by all guilds except for DGA, but DGA happens to be the most accurate predictor for BP). Making Dreamgirls or LMS this year's Walk the Line? 
Between the two, I have to say LMS, but I think the comparison pretty much stops after those three.  If Crash had to face Dreamgirls and The Departed, it would have had no chance of winning.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:38 pm |
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MikeQ.
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I just can't see Eastwood missing the DGA, that's why I still consider Letters in the race, although I would love to say that it's out. I mean, Eastwood missing the DGA would be a HUGE snub. I just can't see it happening. Everyone goes ga-ga over Eastwood; he'll make it on name alone.
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xiayun
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There is one difference between Leo and other past nominees who have experienced category confusion (Hughes, Del Toro, Connelly, etc.), Leo has another strong performance in the opposite category and thus risks a possibility of vote-splitting, not just between lead and supporting, but between Blood Diamond and The Departed. I still think when all said and done, a lot more people will put his The Departed performance No. 1 in Best Actor than both 1) The Departed No. 1 in Best Supporting Actor and 2) Blood Diamond No. 1 in Best Actor and ensure his correct nomination, but WB is certainly not doing him any favor.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:44 pm |
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dolcevita
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loyalfromlondon wrote: dolcevita wrote: Letters is not this year's Munich. Its not even this year's Kong...
I can't believe how little its made. A BP nom with less than half a million in the bank, that's unprecedented.
Yeah, at least someone sees eye-to-eye with me on this one. It neither has the critical approval and massive guild love that other movies have had, nor has it gotten an ounce of popular support (Kong had enough ppular support and buzz). It has nothing going for it, and the back-to-back Letters and Flags has actually made almost everyone overdose on Clint. Serious backlash is the consequence...even from someone like me. Letters gets zilch either as far as big awards or big b.o. numbers. End of discussion.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:45 pm |
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xiayun
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If not for DGA's amazing run the last 4 years (it's 20 for 20 when come to match BP, even better than matching BD), Letters will be knocked down a spot or two. It's still the weakest link, but the competition isn't strong either, pretty much just down to LMS in fact. I still think the preferential/passion system will work in its favor, just as it did with Munich.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:52 pm |
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MikeQ.
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xiayun wrote: If not for DGA's amazing run the last 4 years (it's 20 for 20 when come to match BP, even better than matching BD), Letters will be knocked down a spot or two. It's still the weakest link, but the competition isn't strong either, pretty much just down to LMS in fact.
What happens if Greengrass gets a DGA nom? Some suspect he will. I'm not looking for whether you think he will get a nom, but if he somehow does...
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:55 pm |
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xiayun
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MikeQ. wrote: xiayun wrote: If not for DGA's amazing run the last 4 years (it's 20 for 20 when come to match BP, even better than matching BD), Letters will be knocked down a spot or two. It's still the weakest link, but the competition isn't strong either, pretty much just down to LMS in fact. What happens if Greengrass gets a DGA nom? Some suspect he will. I'm not looking for whether you think he will get a nom, but if he somehow does... Peace, Mike.
Yep, and that's why I should say United 93 is still on the radar, but I'm predicting it will go guildless. But if both Greengrass and Eastwood make it, the key is who will miss. If Frears misses, combining with less-than-stellar showing at SAG, will that make The Queen the most vulnerable? If Condon misses, will then The Dreamgirls take a serious blow? Or will DGA finally crack and only match 3/5 with BP this time? Ah, fascinating stuff.
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MikeQ.
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xiayun wrote: MikeQ. wrote: xiayun wrote: If not for DGA's amazing run the last 4 years (it's 20 for 20 when come to match BP, even better than matching BD), Letters will be knocked down a spot or two. It's still the weakest link, but the competition isn't strong either, pretty much just down to LMS in fact. What happens if Greengrass gets a DGA nom? Some suspect he will. I'm not looking for whether you think he will get a nom, but if he somehow does... Peace, Mike. Yep, and that's why I should say United 93 is still on the radar, but I'm predicting it will go guildless. But if both Greengrass and Eastwood make it, the key is who will miss. If Frears misses, combining with less-than-stellar showing at SAG, will that make The Queen the most vulnerable? If Condon misses, will then The Dreamgirls take a serious blow? Or will DGA finally crack and only match 3/5 with BP this time? Ah, fascinating stuff.
So true. It's possible that even with whatever happens, the DGA may have an "off" year after 4 perfect years in a row.
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Shack
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A bit of a slip for Departed overall eh? It's not this all dominant force, Dreamgirls is coming back strong with a win possibility, Babel is still in there too.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:21 pm |
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Jonathan
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xiayun wrote: There is one difference between Leo and other past nominees who have experienced category confusion (Hughes, Del Toro, Connelly, etc.), Leo has another strong performance in the opposite category and thus risks a possibility of vote-splitting, not just between lead and supporting, but between Blood Diamond and The Departed. I still think when all said and done, a lot more people will put his The Departed performance No. 1 in Best Actor than both 1) The Departed No. 1 in Best Supporting Actor and 2) Blood Diamond No. 1 in Best Actor and ensure his correct nomination, but WB is certainly not doing him any favor.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:16 pm |
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Dkmuto
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That Bobby nomination is obviously the product of its massive cast. Had everyone in SAG actually seen the film, they might have realized that the acting is nothing special, at all.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:18 pm |
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Dkmuto
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Oh, and...
I don't know. It just seems like if there's one film that's remained steady throughout all of this while simultaneously flying under the radar, it's been...
The Queen.
Is it suddenly on tenuous ground, as far as a BP nom goes?
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Libs
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Awards Czar Jon wrote: Somebody just compared Bobby to Chocolat, with GG, SAG and Weinsteins.
Eep.
Bobby has grossed about $11M in this country. At least Chocolat was a hit (and fresh on RT, though barely).
I doubt it.
And the Weinsteins don't have the pull they used to, either.
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