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MovieDude
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People knew Million Dollar Baby was going to be made at this point I think, but if I'm not mistaken we had only had the poster, which I think failed to make people think it was going to be more Mystic River then say Blood Work.
No films come to mind right now that have already been released that I think will get a BA nomination. I think Forrest Whitaker and Peter O'Toole both seem to have the best chances from what word is right now. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Clive Owen, George Clooney, Will Smith, and to a much lesser extent Russell Crowe are all also very much in the running, but it's completley up to how their films do right now. If one of the films stumbles, I doubt that they'll get the only nomination for it. Also a contender for a nomination is Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls, word is that he's absolutely amazing in it, although the performance may be counted as Supporting Actor.
I'd love for Derek Luke to get a nomination, but I'm not sold on it yet. Then again, I doubt Tim Robbins will get another nomination so soon after Mystic River so if the film gets Hotel Rwanda level acclaim it's very possible. Leonardo DiCaprio is a possibility for The Departed (The Blood Diamond doesn't sound that promising to me with Zwick directing), but he'll have to be able to not get upstaged by Nicholson. I don't see that happening but then again, if he did manage to measure up to him I think he'd suddenly shoot up to lock position.
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Dr. Lecter
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andaroo wrote: Maverikk wrote: Of, course, there is bound to be a major contender that isn't on the radar yet, just like Million Dollar Baby and Brokeback Mountain weren't major considerations in early September, and they both scored Best Actor/Best Picture nominations. Well people on Goldderby and Oscarwatch were talking about Brokeback Mountain like a year in advance, it wasn't (IMO) the surprise by the time we were into September. If I recall we also knew about Million Dollar Baby at this point in 2004. I dunno... I think we pretty much have all the potential nominees on the table this year.
I remember very well that NO ONE considered Million Dollar Baby at this very point.
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Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:45 am |
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Alex Y.
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What if the Best Actor nominations were:
Derek Luke - Catch a Fire
Forest Whitaker - The Last King of Scotland
Will Smith - The Pursuit of Happyness
Jamie Foxx - Dreamgirls
Chiwetel Ejiofor - Children of Men (okay maybe he is supporting...then replace with Don Cheadle in Reign Over Me where Paramount decided to limited release it in December instead of waiting for the spring)
That would be an awesome slate...
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Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:35 pm |
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Atoddr
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Here goes.......
1. Forrest Whittaker - The Last King Of Scotland
2. Ed Harris - Copying Beethoven
3. Matt Damon - The Good Shepherd
4 Derek Luke - Catch A Fire
5. Russell Crowe - A Good Year
This seems like a really murky race. I think The Pursuit Of Happyness looked horrible, so I can't include Will Smith. Jamie Foxx and George Clooney have been well-rewarded recently so that seems a little too soon unless they're just fantastic. I didn't want to include Crowe really, but oh well. Pitt seems more likely as supporting for Babel, much like Clooney was last year in Syriana.
I would be really happy if Harris finally won. And I've been very impressed with Luke in Antwon Fisher, Friday Night Lights, and even Pieces Of April.
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:02 am |
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Excel
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the same people who kept putting afflecks name with best supporting actor, are now putting ryan phillippes name with best actor, for flags of our fathers.............
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:52 am |
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Atoddr
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excel wrote: the same people who kept putting afflecks name with best supporting actor, are now putting ryan phillippes name with best actor, for flags of our fathers.............
And who are those people?
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:44 am |
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xiayun
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Both Emanuel Levy and Variety raved Peter O'Toole in Venus:
Levy
Quote: Was Peter O'Toole "prophetic" in 2004, when he initially rejected the Honorary Oscar from the Academy, based on his belief that he was still in the run for a legit recognition, not quite ready for a career achievement trophy? (In the end, you may recall, O'Toole consented and accepted the award). I mention that, because O'Toole astonishingly subtle performance as the seventysomething thespian should earn him his eighth Oscar nomination (and perhaps the coveted award itself), when Miramax opens the movie stateside December 15.
Quote: In remarkably subdued performance, O'Toole, an actor who often chews the scenery with his histrionics, portrays the kind of old man we have never seen before, certainly not in American films. Though not physically well, Maurice is not limping, and he is not crotchety, as Henry Fonda was in "Golden Pond," a film that won Fonda his first and only Oscar, just months before he died.
Variety: Quote: Peter O'Toole reigns once again onscreen in "Venus." Playing his first meaty leading film role in perhaps two decades, the still charismatic and silver-tongued star scores a bull's-eye here as an aged thespian who, despite failing health, can't resist playing out a final dalliance of a sort with a nubile young thing.
Quote: Despite playing a trodder of the boards, O'Toole resists all temptation for flamboyance, coming away with a rounded, amusing, endearing and, given his lack of opportunities in recent years, unexpected triumph.
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:55 pm |
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Libs
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Currently:
Forest Whitaker, The Last King of Scotland
Peter O'Toole, Venus
Ed Harris, Copying Beethoven
Will Smith, The Pursuit of Happyness
Derek Luke, Catch a Fire
There is absolutely no way of knowing much of anything yet. The Actor race seems a lot less clear than Actress so far.
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:21 pm |
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Maverikk
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You know, it's a shame that "color" even has to be a consideration when predicting this stuff. Between Will Smith's ability and popularity, and the trailers that I saw today for Last King of Scotland and Catch a Fire, where the performances from Whitaker and Luke look to be of the "blow you away" variety, I really see no reason (that isn't color related) that all 3 of them couldn't get into the final 5. If the performance merits it, why not!
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:30 pm |
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Chris
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You really think race is a consideration? I would hope that the Academy looks past that sort of thing...I know it doesn't factor at all when I make predictions.
At this point, until we get more reviews, I think O'Toole is the only lock for a nomination. I think he might win this.
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:34 pm |
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Shack
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Dr. Lecter wrote: andaroo wrote: Maverikk wrote: Of, course, there is bound to be a major contender that isn't on the radar yet, just like Million Dollar Baby and Brokeback Mountain weren't major considerations in early September, and they both scored Best Actor/Best Picture nominations. Well people on Goldderby and Oscarwatch were talking about Brokeback Mountain like a year in advance, it wasn't (IMO) the surprise by the time we were into September. If I recall we also knew about Million Dollar Baby at this point in 2004. I dunno... I think we pretty much have all the potential nominees on the table this year. I remember very well that NO ONE considered Million Dollar Baby at this very point.
Indeed. I wasn't here, but I read a couple old threads in my spare time once a while ago, just for fun at like 3 AM to see what you guys were saying, and it was nowhere. Everyone had lists of all the contenders naming them off, and noone knew it existed really, for example it wasn't even in Raffiki's top 15. It wasn't mentioned till late in the game, I believe it was xiayun you actually pointed out that Clint Eastwood had a movie coming out called Million Dollar Baby and it was picking up steam, heh.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:22 am |
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xiayun
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Yeah, that was sometime later, when I read about Poland's article on how the whole race changed after the first screening of MDB.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:14 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Rod was the first who mentioned M$B as a contender after some article.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:05 am |
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Neostorm
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I've been reading a bit of praise for Ryan Gosling in Half Nelson. It'd be nice to have a canadian nominated  I hope to be seeing Half Nelson today.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:27 am |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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Jeff Wells jumps on board the O'Toole train:
Quote: Peter O'Toole's performance as an aging, spirited, rogue-ishly randy actor in Roger Michell's Venus (Miramax, 12.15) hasn't been overhyped -- I saw the film late yesterday afternoon and it's certainly one of his very best. But it has been, I think, under-described. It's a performance of profound tenderness and vulnerabilty ...artful frailty, if you will.
O'Toole is 74 and is playing a man in his early to mid '80s, and bravely, it seemed to me. He makes you chuckle at times, and of course is charming to the last, but it's not an audience-pleasing "performance" as much as a piece of naked exposure about what it is to be at death's door and stll wanting to be alive in every way you can.
It's a beautiful job, and it makes me all the more sad that O'Toole won't be coming to Toronto after all. It was announced yesterday that he's too sick to travel from Britain. Something about "intestinal problems, which he's had before," according an a story in Tom O'Neill's column.
I am so excited. He'll be tough to ignore. Do the right thing, AMPAS.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:38 pm |
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Shack
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How about Guy Pierce for Factory Girl? I hadn't heard much about this before, but any half-biopic involving someone this famous can't be counted out, and he's a decent actor on top of that. Also, I would imagine Andy Warhol's personality being very much award bait, with the eccentricity and wackiness and all. Probably solid chance for a nomination if he delivers.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:15 pm |
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Joker's Thug #3
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MGM has just bought the rights to Rescue Dawn and are planning for a December release.
So Bale's got Prestige in October, Harsh Times in November, and Rescue Dawn in December.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:29 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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I will be rooting for O'Toole big time. It is just a shame he wasn't awarded yet and if he gets nominated, but the Academy doesn#t give it to him once again, then shame on all the members!
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MovieDude
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Killuminati510 wrote: MGM has just bought the rights to Rescue Dawn and are planning for a December release.
So Bale's got Prestige in October, Harsh Times in November, and Rescue Dawn in December.
He better be considerably better in one then the other two or else they should handily cancel each other out.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:15 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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But my understanding is that Rescue Dawn isn't....very good. And as god-like as Herzog can be, he can also make poo-poo. Like any genius, really.
Lots of poor word is leaking out on the internet.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:21 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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Peter O'Toole's 6 major losses (His 1969 nomination for the musical remake of Goodbye Mr. Chips wasn't really deserving...these other 6 performances are award-worthy, however):
1962:
Best Actor in a Leading Role
To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - Gregory Peck
Birdman of Alcatraz (1962) - Burt Lancaster
Days of Wine and Roses (1962) - Jack Lemmon
Divorzio all'italiana (1961) - Marcello Mastroianni
Lawrence of Arabia (1962) - Peter O'Toole
1964:
My Fair Lady (1964) - Rex Harrison
Alexis Zorbas (1964) - Anthony Quinn
Becket (1964) - Richard Burton
Becket (1964) - Peter O'Toole
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) - Peter Sellers
1968:
Charly (1968) - Cliff Robertson ---------GAHHHHHHHH
Fixer, The (1968) - Alan Bates
Heart Is a Lonely Hunter, The (1968) - Alan Arkin
Lion in Winter, The (1968) - Peter O'Toole
Oliver! (1968) - Ron Moody
1972:
Godfather, The (1972) - Marlon Brando
Ruling Class, The (1972) - Peter O'Toole
Sleuth (1972) - Michael Caine
Sleuth (1972) - Laurence Olivier
Sounder (1972) - Paul Winfield
1980:
Raging Bull (1980) - Robert De Niro
Elephant Man, The (1980) - John Hurt
Great Santini, The (1979) - Robert Duvall
Stunt Man, The (1980) - Peter O'Toole
Tribute (1980) - Jack Lemmon
1982:
Gandhi (1982) - Ben Kingsley
Missing (1982) - Jack Lemmon
My Favorite Year (1982) - Peter O'Toole
Tootsie (1982) - Dustin Hoffman
Verdict, The (1982) - Paul Newman
Unfortunately for him, he ran directly into legendary, iconic performances like DeNiro's and Brando's.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:43 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Hm, well, Kingsley's and De Niro's wins certainly were deserving. But, really, he had the misfortune of being nominated next to win-locks pretty often like Peck, Kingsley, Brando and De Niro. 1964 and 1968 were his best chances.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:07 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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I thought his work in the Kingsley and Peck years was actually superior to etither of those guys. Losing to Harrison and fucking Cliff Robertson, though, is pretty inexcusable, from any perspective.
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Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:21 pm |
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xiayun
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Could Sacha Baron Cohen really be a contender? Poland is pushing it, but I wonder if critics will.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:06 pm |
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I'm interested to see if Richard Gere in The Hoax grabs any attention.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:03 pm |
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