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neo_wolf
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History of violence and the constant gardner wont get nominated for an BP oscar,i bet those will go to munich and king kong.
BMM is the clear frontrunner and match point got a huge boost but all i see is a best screenplay oscar nomination,not BP.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:53 am |
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Squee
Squee
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:01 pm Posts: 13270 Location: Yuppieville
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Golden Globes are completely pointless!
Wake me up when Oscar Nominations are out.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:54 am |
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neo_wolf
Extraordinary
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:19 pm Posts: 11029
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When are the oscar noms?
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:56 am |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
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Goldie wrote: * People have to realize that this with the comedy / drama allows 10 in while only 5 get in the Oscars - Big difference after 5 get sliced of.
* Hopefully this is good news for the Producers with the movie and actor nominations - Picture, Lane, Farrell - I want that movie to be good.
* On nothing for KONG - doesn't KONG not really clearly fit into either of these categores - Comedy or Drama.
Kong is neither. It's a fantasty film that's tried to be more. Reality is, it's a remake of a classic by somebody who has already been rewarded more than he should have been. I think Jackson is going to have to show some originality instead of standing on the shoulders of others if he wants anymore awards love, and I don't say that as an insult to him, just as an observation that he's not very original and it shouldn't be expected for anyone to see him as another Spielberg or Cameron until he steps it up in that department, and there's no evidence that he can.
The Producers is getting some bad reviews. I listed it in my predictions at first and edited it out for Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, which got absolutely no love from WB, movie audiences (those who didn't bother seeing it) and the Globes. I think the only reason The Producers was nominated was because it's the best true musical between it and Rent. Walk the Line isn't really a musical in the truest sense.
I think the Squid and the Whale is making a bit of noise, and it's a shame that it has other higher profile small pictures in it's way, because it's the little film that could right now. (but it's also the little film that won't)
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:57 am |
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Apparently Jake is considered Lead by the committee, so that explains his absense.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:00 pm |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:47 pm Posts: 9566
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I think Squid and the Whale could snag a Screenplay nomination (not a win, those will go to Good Night and Brokeback at this point I think).
It reminds me a lot of American Splendor.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:01 pm |
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Their drama nominees look like indepedent spirit awards. Good they're thinking on their own for once instead of trying to guess Oscar.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:06 pm |
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Squee
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:01 pm Posts: 13270 Location: Yuppieville
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Maverikk wrote: Goldie wrote: * People have to realize that this with the comedy / drama allows 10 in while only 5 get in the Oscars - Big difference after 5 get sliced of.
* Hopefully this is good news for the Producers with the movie and actor nominations - Picture, Lane, Farrell - I want that movie to be good.
* On nothing for KONG - doesn't KONG not really clearly fit into either of these categores - Comedy or Drama. Kong is neither. It's a fantasty film that's tried to be more. Reality is, it's a remake of a classic by somebody who has already been rewarded more than he should have been. I think Jackson is going to have to show some originality instead of standing on the shoulders of others if he wants anymore awards love, and I don't say that as an insult to him, just as an observation that he's not very original and it shouldn't be expected for anyone to see him as another Spielberg or Cameron until he steps it up in that department, and there's no evidence that he can.
I suppose that's true, in that you don't say this as an insult to him, but rather as an insult to the loonies out there who love him! RILE EM UP WHY DON'T YA?!
I personally think he got exactly what he deserved! (except a couple of tech awards for Return of the King which should have gone elsewhere, like best costume design)
It is funny, though, that it doesn't look like he'll be doing an "original" work for 5 straight movies, assuming he does the Hobbit next. Though putting those Lord of the Rings movies together took a hell of a lot of talent.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:06 pm |
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dar
Indiana Jones IV
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I think he is doing "The lovely bones" next. Adapted from a novel too, though.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:07 pm |
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Goldie
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Maverikk wrote: Goldie wrote: * People have to realize that this with the comedy / drama allows 10 in while only 5 get in the Oscars - Big difference after 5 get sliced of.
* Hopefully this is good news for the Producers with the movie and actor nominations - Picture, Lane, Farrell - I want that movie to be good.
* On nothing for KONG - doesn't KONG not really clearly fit into either of these categores - Comedy or Drama. Kong is neither. It's a fantasty film that's tried to be more. Reality is, it's a remake of a classic by somebody who has already been rewarded more than he should have been. I think Jackson is going to have to show some originality instead of standing on the shoulders of others if he wants anymore awards love, and I don't say that as an insult to him, just as an observation that he's not very original and it shouldn't be expected for anyone to see him as another Spielberg or Cameron until he steps it up in that department, and there's no evidence that he can. The Producers is getting some bad reviews. I listed it in my predictions at first and edited it out for Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, which got absolutely no love from WB, movie audiences (those who didn't bother seeing it) and the Globes. I think the only reason The Producers was nominated was because it's the best true musical between it and Rent. Walk the Line isn't really a musical in the truest sense. I think the Squid and the Whale is making a bit of noise, and it's a shame that it has other higher profile small pictures in it's way, because it's the little film that could right now. (but it's also the little film that won't)
On the producers, I am more concerned with liking the movie than any awards possibilites. I had questions whether this idea was too out-dated.
I know it got 2 good reviews, just thumbs up, from E&R's early review.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:09 pm |
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Squee
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dar wrote: I think he is doing "The lovely bones" next. Adapted from a novel too, though.
Well that makes 6 in a row then!
Though really... it seems like most movies are based off of either a novel or a short story or something.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:09 pm |
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Goldie
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British actress Kate Beckinsale, Mark Wahlberg and funnyman Steve Carell have signed up to host the 2006 Golden Globe Awards Nominations announcement.
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so did anyone watch > How did KB look?
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:12 pm |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 15310 Location: Slumming at KJ
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Squee wrote: I suppose that's true, in that you don't say this as an insult to him, but rather as an insult to the loonies out there who love him! RILE EM UP WHY DON'T YA?!
I personally think he got exactly what he deserved! (except a couple of tech awards for Return of the King which should have gone elsewhere, like best costume design)
It is funny, though, that it doesn't look like he'll be doing an "original" work for 5 straight movies, assuming he does the Hobbit next. Though putting those Lord of the Rings movies together took a hell of a lot of talent.
ROTK had several flaws that were swept under the rug, as did The Two Towers. I could list them all for you if you would like? He deserved awards for Fellowship and then the academy should have moved on.
I thought he had something on his plate before he was doing The Hobbit. I hope so, because that only makes him look like he is limited as a filmmaker by continously doing stuff that is spelled out for him. Even people like Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer, who have worked with well known characters and within story confines, still aren't doing literal adaptions like King Kong, LOTR, and the Hobbit are.
And if the loonies are insulted because I pointed out that Jackson doesn't do original material, I can't help it. It's well documented that he doesn't. At least he hasn't gotten much notice or acclaim when he did it years ago.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:27 pm |
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 35239 Location: Minnesota
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Congratulations to BROKEBACK! This is awesome! And I'm especially pleased that Michelle Williams got a supporting nomination. I just love that underrated actress!
Congrats to Charlize Theron (though obviously she doesn't have a chance of winning, but still, now they'll be able to put all of the awards it was nominated for on the cover of North Country) and Frances McDormand.
Also, congrats to TransAmerica and Felicity Huffman.
It seems odd The Squid & The Whale is considered a comedy. I thought it seemed like a drama.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:30 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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Whoa, Peter Jackson gets a Best Director nom, but King Kong gets no Best Picture nom? Wow. I would have expected the complete opposite: a picture nom and no best director nom. That's pretty cool for director nom.
Woohooo!!! NO CRASH!! And A History of Violence is up there!
Definately interesting noms.
PEACE, Mike.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:32 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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There are a lot of odd choices. This year of the Globes is not going to be very good of predicting the Oscars whatsoever it seems to me.
PEACE, Mike.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:43 pm |
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Christian
Team Kris
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MikeQ. wrote: There are a lot of odd choices. This year of the Globes is not going to be very good of predicting the Oscars whatsoever it seems to me.
PEACE, Mike.
They've finally grown a backbone, I think.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:45 pm |
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The Scottie
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Here is some sweet news.
Kung Fu Hustle got nominated in the foreign film category. Sweeet. I wonder, is it eligible for the Oscar or is it disqualified.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:46 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Christian wrote: MikeQ. wrote: There are a lot of odd choices. This year of the Globes is not going to be very good of predicting the Oscars whatsoever it seems to me.
PEACE, Mike. They've finally grown a backbone, I think.
I think it's really awesome how this has been a "crummy" year in terms of films that the Golden Globes are forced to go back and nominate awesome films like The Constant Gardener and A History of Violence. Hehe. These two would have normally been left out I think if the end of the year had more supposed "Oscar worthy" stuff. But I'm not complaining.
PEACE, Mike.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:51 pm |
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dar
Indiana Jones IV
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Mike wrote: Congratulations to BROKEBACK! This is awesome! And I'm especially pleased that Michelle Williams got a supporting nomination. I just love that underrated actress!
Jen Linley is going to get an Oscar nom! 
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:58 pm |
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Christian
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dar wrote: Mike wrote: Congratulations to BROKEBACK! This is awesome! And I'm especially pleased that Michelle Williams got a supporting nomination. I just love that underrated actress!
Jen Linley is going to get an Oscar nom! 
HAHAHAHA TAke that, Josephine Potter!
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:00 pm |
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Maverikk
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MikeQ. wrote: There are a lot of odd choices. This year of the Globes is not going to be very good of predicting the Oscars whatsoever it seems to me.
PEACE, Mike.
I hope so, although it would kinda suck since the GG choices are actually pretty good and I'd be ok with similar nominees. I think it does confirm some locks, between the Globes and the critics awards. There seems to be a consensus developing.
Locks so far:
Reese Witherspoon (who I see as this year's Jamie Foxx)
Joaquin Phoenix
Ang Lee
Heath Ledger
Phillip S. Hoffman
Matt Dillon
Kiera Knightly
Felicity Huffman
Maria Bello
Judi Dench
Brokeback Mountain
Walk the Line
I'd include Munich as a lock, which it probably is, but with no Best Picture or actor noms, it definitely took a step back in that regard. I almost want to call Giamatti a lock, and I think it's undeserving and I hate when they make up past snubs because it always creates a new snub. Kevin Costner was much better in The Upside of Anger, and hell, Ludicriss was better in Crash.
Speaking of which, the issue of race is going to have to come up some time, and Ziyi Zhang, Ang Lee, Fernando Meirelles, and Terrence Howard are all that's representing non whites. Of those, only Ang Lee seems to be a lock, but is it conceivable that no blacks will get in when the Oscar noms are announced, especially after they had such a strong year last year? Terrence Howard may benefit from that.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:06 pm |
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Raffiki
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Well, seems lik every new group of nominees or critics awards adds something more to the race.
This definitely doesn't bode well for Munich at the Oscars. The award might come down to Brokeback and Good Night (probably very deservedly) with Kong in the background.
The Actor race is getting pretty locked up. I now see Howard almost a lock for the 5th spot instead of Bana. He has constantly been mentioned as breakthrough Actor or something along the lines and frankly, I don't see two Crash nominees in Supporting and if anyone shows up, it's gonna be Dillon and that's probably for some of his erlier body of work.
I think it will be Reese v. Huffman as well at the Oscars. This definitely kille some of Watts chances but I can still see her getting nominated if the Academy really opens up to Kong.
A History of Violence is definitely getting alot of attention and may be further helped by showing up on alot of critics' top 10 lists. I think it's locking up Cronberg for the 5th Director spot. Best Picture is still very iffy but now, it's a definite contender.
I agree Crash, Cinderella Man, Memoirs are all dead.
The only way New World can have any chance is if it gets late buzz that could significantly help it get some noms, but none in the major categories.
Match Point is such a question mark at this point. I don't even know when the movie is being released.
As for this mini Jackson argument we got going.
I'm not opening up a debate or rebuttle, but also stating my "observations"
He did get nominated for Heavenly Creatures, I believe, as Best Screenplay before he did LOTR if I'm not mistaken. That kind of shows the Academy knows who he is.
And I'm not necessarily looking for an argument Mav, but just about all the raving Kong reviews are calling it a masterpiece and a classic, a definition of film-making executing what was there very well and adding in alot of originality in expanding some fo the plot.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:10 pm |
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dar
Indiana Jones IV
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Christian wrote: dar wrote: Mike wrote: Congratulations to BROKEBACK! This is awesome! And I'm especially pleased that Michelle Williams got a supporting nomination. I just love that underrated actress!
Jen Linley is going to get an Oscar nom!  HAHAHAHA TAke that, Josephine Potter!
yep... you get Dawson, I´ll get Oscar!

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Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:15 pm |
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zingy
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Great to see Match Point and A History of Violence for Best Picture.
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Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:23 pm |
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