Early Guilds Discussion Thread
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MikeQ.
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 Early Guilds Discussion Thread
So, yeah, I was thinking about all of the Guilds awards as a whole, and since we're still a while until the Guilds start popping up, I thought I'd start a little early discussion thread regarding any/all of the Guild Awards.
I actually had a few questions to ask to you guys as a whole, but I need to look back at Guilds history of nominations/wins because my memory is so poor, so I ask:
Does anyone know a good website that basically has an archive of the nominations and winners of the Guilds per year? I remember having one last awards season that I had to browse the history of all of the Guilds awards, so I'm pretty sure there's one out there. I can't seem to find any links page on Oscarwatch, so I couldn't look there. Any links/help would be much appreciated.
Peace,
Mike.
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:55 am |
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Christian
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I read from the LA Times that they're campaigning Iwo Jima in original for sure, I don't know if the guilds/academy will follow suit. Borat is also being pushed by the producers as Original, eventhough the character came from the TV show... 
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:56 am |
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Jonathan
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Christian wrote: I read from the LA Times that they're campaigning Iwo Jima in original for sure, I don't know if the guilds/academy will follow suit. Borat is also being pushed by the producers as Original, eventhough the character came from the TV show... 
I think it might be a case similar to My Big Fat Greek Wedding. That came from a play, but the script wasn't changed (Just the actors, since it was a one-woman show), so it was original. With Borat, it's based just on a character, but it wasn't changed at all since the character was played by the same person.
I think that makes sense. 
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:34 pm |
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Jonathan
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PGA (I'll go with 6 films too)
The Departed
The Devil Wears Prada (!!!)
Dreamgirls
Letters From Iwo Jima
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen
DGA
Alejandro González Iñárritu, Babel
Bill Condon, Dreamgirls
Clint Eastwood, Letters from Iwo Jima
Stephen Frears, The Queen
Martin Scorsese, The Departed
SAG
Best Ensemble
Babel
Bobby
The Departed
Dreamgirls
Little Miss Sunshine
Best Actor
Sacha Baron Cohen, Borat
Leonardo DiCaprio, The Departed
Peter O'Toole, Venus
Will Smith, The Pursuit of Happyness
Forest Whitaker, The Last King of Scotland
Best Actress
Penelope Cruz, Volver
Judi Dench, Notes on a Scandal
Helen Mirren, The Queen
Meryl Streep, The Devil Wears Prada
Kate Winslet, Little Children
Supporting Actor, Motion Picture
Alan Arkin, Little Miss Sunshine
Eddie Murphy, Dreamgirls
Jack Nicholson, The Departed
Brad Pitt, Babel
Mark Wahlberg, The Departed
Supporting Actress, Motion Picture
Cate Blanchett, Notes on a Scandal
Jill Clayburgh, Running with Scissors (They love doing crazy shit like this)
Maggie Gyllenhaal, World Trade Center (And this)
Jennifer Hudson, Dreamgirls
Catherine O’Hara, For Your Consideration
WGA
Adapted
The Departed
The Devil Wears Prada
Dreamgirls
Little Children
Notes on a Scandal
Original
Babel
Letters From Iwo Jima
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen
World Trade Center
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:54 pm |
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Jonathan
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loyalfromlondon wrote: As to your Prada and my Borat PGA pick, I really do think a 100+ grosser that's not The Departed will make the cut. But who will be right??? dhun dhun dhun 
I'll say right now Casino Royale also has a shot.
dhun dhun dhun 
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:06 pm |
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Alex Y.
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SAG- Best Ensemble
Babel
Dreamgirls
The Departed
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen
alt: The Devil Wears Prada
PGA
Borat
The Departed
The Devil Wears Prada
Dreamgirls
Little Miss Sunshine
alt: Happy Feet
DGA
Alejandro González Iñárritu, Babel
Bill Condon, Dreamgirls
Clint Eastwood, Letters from Iwo Jima
Stephen Frears, The Queen
Martin Scorsese, The Departed
alt: Clint Eastwood, Flags of Our Fathers
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:50 pm |
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Jonathan
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PGA and SAG announce Thursday.
Semi-final predictions:
PGA (I'll go with 6 films too)
Casino Royale
The Departed
Dreamgirls
Letters From Iwo Jima
The Queen
6. Little Miss Sunshine
SAG
Best Ensemble
Babel
Bobby
The Departed
Dreamgirls
Little Miss Sunshine
6. The Devil Wears Prada
Best Actor
Sacha Baron Cohen, Borat
Leonardo DiCaprio, The Departed
Peter O'Toole, Venus
Will Smith, The Pursuit of Happyness
Forest Whitaker, The Last King of Scotland
6. Ken Watanabe, Letters from Iwo Jima
Best Actress
Penelope Cruz, Volver
Judi Dench, Notes on a Scandal
Helen Mirren, The Queen
Meryl Streep, The Devil Wears Prada
Kate Winslet, Little Children
6. Beyonce Knowles, Dreamgirls
Supporting Actor, Motion Picture
Alan Arkin, Little Miss Sunshine
Eddie Murphy, Dreamgirls
Jack Nicholson, The Departed
Bill Nighy, Notes on a Scandal
Brad Pitt, Babel
6. Mark Wahlberg, The Departed
Supporting Actress, Motion Picture
Cate Blanchett, Notes on a Scandal
Emily Blunt, The Devil Wears Prada
Jennifer Hudson, Dreamgirls
Catherine O’Hara, For Your Consideration
Emma Thompson, Stranger Than Fiction
6. Kikuchi/Barraza, Babel
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Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:39 pm |
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MikeQ.
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PGA likes to go for the "bigger" films, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the absence of Letters from Iwo Jima, and the inclusion of something like The Devil Wears Prada or Borat. Letters poor box office in only 5 theatres is not a good step.
DGA is where Clint will easily score, as well as Scorcese and Frears. The other two slots are still unsure for me. If Condon doesn't make it, then Inarritu and/or Greengrass and/or Cuaron and such could make it in. I would love to see Cuaron make it. But I tend to think that Condon will make it, since DGA is ultimately the best predictor of Best Picture at the Oscars, and I think Dreamgirls will make it there. But DGA isn't always perfect (but has in recent years been spot on).
Peace,
Mike.
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Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:33 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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MikeQ. wrote: PGA likes to go for the "bigger" films, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the absence of Letters from Iwo Jima, and the inclusion of something like The Devil Wears Prada or Borat. Letters poor box office in only 5 theatres is not a good step.
Well, that's what I thought till Capote was nominated last year...
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Dr. Lecter
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My final PGA/SAG/DGA predictions:
PGA:
The Departed
Dreamgirls
The Queen
Little Miss Sunshine
United 93
DGA:
Martin Scorsese (The Departed)
Clint Eastwood (Letters from Iwo Jima)
Paul Greengrass (United 93)
Stephen Frears (The Queen)
Alejandro González Iñárritu (Babel)
SAG:
Best Actor
Peter O'Toole (Venus)
Ryan Gosling (Half Nelson)
Forest Whitaker (The Last King of Scotland)
Leonardo DiCaprio (The Departed)
Sacha Baron Cohen (Borat)
Best Actress
Penelope Cruz (Volver)
Judi Dench (Notes on a Scandal)
Helen Mirren (The Queen)
Meryl Streep (The Devil Wears Prada)
Kate Winslet (Little Children)
Best Supporting Actress
Rinko Kikuchi (Babel)
Jennifer Hudson (Dreamgirls)
Cate Blanchett (Notes on a Scandal)
Catherine O’Hara (For Your Consideration)
Abigail Breslin (Little Miss Sunshine)
Best Supporting Actor:
Djimon Hounsou (Blood Diamond)
Mark Wahlberg (The Departed)
Jack Nicholson (The Departed)
Eddie Murphy (Dreamgirls)
Alan Arkin (Little Miss Sunshine)
Best Ensemble
Little Miss Sunshine
Babel
The Departed
Dreamgirls
United 93
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Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:40 pm |
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neo_wolf
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PGA:
The Departed
Letters from iwo jima
The queen
Dreamgirls
Babel
DGA:
Martin Scorsese
Clint eastwood(iwo jima)
Paul Greengrass
Alejandro González Iñárritu
Bill Condon
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Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:19 pm |
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Libs
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Taking rather wild guesses here:
For SAG:
Best Performance by an Ensemble Cast
BABEL
THE DEPARTED
DREAMGIRLS
LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
THE QUEEN
Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role
Sacha Baron Cohen, BORAT
Leonardo DiCaprio, THE DEPARTED
Peter O'Toole, VENUS
Will Smith, THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS
Forest Whitaker, THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND
Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role
Penelope Cruz, VOLVER
Judi Dench, NOTES ON A SCANDAL
Helen Mirren, THE QUEEN
Meryl Streep, THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA
Kate Winslet, LITTLE CHILDREN
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role
Alan Arkin, LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
Steve Carell, LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
Jackie Earle Haley, LITTLE CHILDREN
Eddie Murphy, DREAMGIRLS
Jack Nicholson, THE DEPARTED
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
Cate Blanchett, NOTES ON A SCANDAL
Emily Blunt, THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA
Abigail Breslin, LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE
Jennifer Hudson, DREAMGIRLS
Rinko Kikuchi, BABEL
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Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:40 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
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We need to remember: SAG will probably do at least one really crazy, stupid thing. Fucking actors. CLORIS LEACHMAN? I'll never fully get over that.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:19 pm |
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MikeQ.
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After knowing the PGA results, these are my DGA Predictions:
Martin Scorsese, The Departed
Alejandro González Iñárritu, Babel
Stephen Fears, The Queen
Clint Eastwood, Letters from Iwo Jima
Bill Condon, Dreamgirls
Alt. Paul Greengrass, United 93
Alt 2. Alfonso Cuaron, Children of Men
I suck at predicting SAG, so I'm not even going to bother.
Peace,
Mike.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:23 pm |
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Libs
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yoshue wrote: We need to remember: SAG will probably do at least one really crazy, stupid thing. Fucking actors. CLORIS LEACHMAN? I'll never fully get over that.
What, for Spanglish?
I had no problems with that nomination, she was wonderful in that.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:26 pm |
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xiayun
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According to Tapley, SAG puts DiCaprio under supporting for The Departed, so don't be surprised if his name isn't mentioned tomorrow or he gets double-nominated.
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Christian
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Can't wait for SAG. 6 AM PST/9 EST I think.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:24 pm |
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xiayun
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loyalfromlondon wrote: I hope SAG rolls out early tomorrow.
It'll be televised live at 6:05am PST.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:25 pm |
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xiayun
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loyalfromlondon wrote: The question is which film will lead with the most SAG nominations?
That'll depend which film can get 3 acting noms: Babel, The Departed, or Dreamgirls?
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:32 pm |
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MikeQ.
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loyalfromlondon wrote: The question is which film will lead with the most SAG nominations?
Babel? Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress x 2 and Best Ensemble?
The Departed? Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor x 2 and Best Ensemble? (Kris Tapley could be wrong... again)
I'm not sure if there is anything else that can get 3 acting nominations. I could see Dreamgirls getting Eddie Murphy and Jennifer Hudson, but Beyonce is definitely not getting nominated. Jamie Foxx? Plus it would have to get Ensemble, too, which isn't for sure.
Peace,
Mike.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:34 pm |
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xiayun
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Little Miss Sunshine could conceivably get 3: 2 supporting actors and 1 supporting actress. If it does, then it will mean the support among acting branch is extremely strong, and BP will be a no-brainer. Getting 2 and the ensemble will keep it in contention.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:43 pm |
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MikeQ.
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xiayun wrote: Little Miss Sunshine could conceivably get 3: 2 supporting actors and 1 supporting actress. If it does, then it will mean the support among acting branch is extremely strong, and BP will be a no-brainer. Getting 2 and the ensemble will keep it in contention.
Yeah, I was thinking LMS might be able to do it too if it can get all the supporting nods. I think LMS has Ensemble in the bag, easily.
Peace,
Mike.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:45 pm |
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Shack
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Right now for DGA I'm thinking Scorsese, Innaritu, Greengrass, Frears, and Eastwood.
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Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:35 am |
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Shack
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And oh, if Babel leads the SAGs tomorrow, I'm making a "Can Babel win?" thread... because it's kind of gaining some serious momentum right now.
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Levy
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xiayun wrote: According to Tapley, SAG puts DiCaprio under supporting for The Departed, so don't be surprised if his name isn't mentioned tomorrow or he gets double-nominated.
Good Gracious. That would be terrible for Leo. Oscar voters will probably be confused and split his votes between leading and supporting. Furthermore if they put him in under supporting it hurts all the others in the cast as well.
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