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Groucho
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I agree that it is a disgrace that Danny Elfman hasn't won an oscar yet.
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STEVE ROGERS
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Libs wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Raffiki wrote: I actually think King Kong was snubbed from a Cinematography nod. Art Direction and Visual Effects were deserved. I don't really know the sound categories or how they judge and I don't really care, so I wouldn't mind trading in those two nods for a cinem. nod. Art Direction and Visual FX for KONG were more deserving than SITH???? That Lava Planet and Lightsaber fight around it had better FX in that 1 scene alone than KONG did throughout the whole movie..
And WALK THE LINE being snubbed for BEST PICTURE over BAREASS MOUNTAIN is a travesty to.. Perhaps if there were Gay sex involved in WALK THE LINE it would've been more of a contender.. Crash=no gay sex Munich=no gay sex Good Night and Good Luck=no sex at all Capote=a homosexual character but no sex at all
Oh come on!! You can't possible deny that the subject matter and it's Boldness in BARECRACK MOUNTAIN and it's portrayal of 2 Gay Cowboys didn't cause this film to lead in it's campaign for a BEST PICTURE Win.. It's so blatantly obvious that it's the subject matter that will win BEST PICTURE in this movie more then the Quality itself.. They could've chosen a Man/Woman storyline and this movie wouldn't even be mentioned..
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dar
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BKB_The_Man wrote: Libs wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Raffiki wrote: I actually think King Kong was snubbed from a Cinematography nod. Art Direction and Visual Effects were deserved. I don't really know the sound categories or how they judge and I don't really care, so I wouldn't mind trading in those two nods for a cinem. nod. Art Direction and Visual FX for KONG were more deserving than SITH???? That Lava Planet and Lightsaber fight around it had better FX in that 1 scene alone than KONG did throughout the whole movie..
And WALK THE LINE being snubbed for BEST PICTURE over BAREASS MOUNTAIN is a travesty to.. Perhaps if there were Gay sex involved in WALK THE LINE it would've been more of a contender.. Crash=no gay sex Munich=no gay sex Good Night and Good Luck=no sex at all Capote=a homosexual character but no sex at all Oh come on!! You can't possible deny that the subject matter and it's Boldness in BARECRACK MOUNTAIN and it's portrayal of 2 Gay Cowboys didn't cause this film to lead in it's campaign for a BEST PICTURE Win.. It's so blatantly obvious that it's the subject matter that will win BEST PICTURE in this movie more then the Quality itself.. They could've chosen a Man/Woman storyline and this movie wouldn't even be mentioned..
I agree! Even better, Walk the line would have the oscars locked, LOCKED I TELL YOU, if it also had death penalty, Tv anchors, palestinian terrorists and Sandra Bullock. MORTAL LOCK!!!
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Libs
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Rachel McAdams will be hosting the technical Oscars.
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Dr. Lecter
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Groucho wrote: I agree that it is a disgrace that Danny Elfman hasn't won an oscar yet.
I agree.
He deserved a nom for Corpse Bride this year.
I wonder whether John Williams will get over 100 nominations in his lifetime, hehehe. I mean he is at what, 44?
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Shack
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I'm actually going to side a wee bit with BKB here.
If it wasn't about gay cowboys, I don't think it would be thisssss much of the giant frontrunner. The subject matter helped to give it a hype and awareness boost that it wouldn't have had otherwise, and from there a lot of critics recognized it for it's political meaning. Of course with Ang Lee, and great Ledger Gylennhall and Williams acting, it still would've probably been nominated for Best Picture. But it's road would've been a lot harder, and Crash would probably have a leg up on it by now.
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Libs
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Shack wrote: I'm actually going to side a wee bit with BKB here.
If it wasn't about gay cowboys, I don't think it would be thisssss much of the giant frontrunner. The subject matter helped to give it a hype and awareness boost that it wouldn't have had otherwise, and from there a lot of critics recognized it for it's political meaning. Of course with Ang Lee, and great Ledger Gylennhall and Williams acting, it still would've probably been nominated for Best Picture. But it's road would've been a lot harder, and Crash would probably have a leg up on it by now.
I don't understand this argument.
If it wasn't about gay cowboys, the film would not exist in the first place.
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xiayun
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It's not like story about forbidden love has never won critical acclaims before. I mean, Titanic is about forbidden love. It's not necessarily that if the story had been about heterosexual love, it must become another The Notebook (loved by people but generally ignored by critics). Also, I agree with Libs, if the story had actually been about a man and a woman, the entire script would have been different. I can't see how one can say "make everything stay the same, but only change the sex" since it can't happen in reality.
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Christian
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Libs wrote: Shack wrote: I'm actually going to side a wee bit with BKB here.
If it wasn't about gay cowboys, I don't think it would be thisssss much of the giant frontrunner. The subject matter helped to give it a hype and awareness boost that it wouldn't have had otherwise, and from there a lot of critics recognized it for it's political meaning. Of course with Ang Lee, and great Ledger Gylennhall and Williams acting, it still would've probably been nominated for Best Picture. But it's road would've been a lot harder, and Crash would probably have a leg up on it by now. I don't understand this argument. If it wasn't about gay cowboys, the film would not exist in the first place.
Also how can a gay cowboy film be perceived to be a giant frontrunner because of that subject matter? How many gay cowboy movies have made a splash at the Oscars?
If anything, the subject matter would have turned off plenty of members.
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dar
Indiana Jones IV
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Christian wrote: Libs wrote: Shack wrote: I'm actually going to side a wee bit with BKB here.
If it wasn't about gay cowboys, I don't think it would be thisssss much of the giant frontrunner. The subject matter helped to give it a hype and awareness boost that it wouldn't have had otherwise, and from there a lot of critics recognized it for it's political meaning. Of course with Ang Lee, and great Ledger Gylennhall and Williams acting, it still would've probably been nominated for Best Picture. But it's road would've been a lot harder, and Crash would probably have a leg up on it by now. I don't understand this argument. If it wasn't about gay cowboys, the film would not exist in the first place. Also how can a gay cowboy film be perceived to be a giant frontrunner because of that subject matter? How many gay cowboy movies have made a splash at the Oscars? If anything, the subject matter would have turned off plenty of members.
Exactly.
In fact, forget about the cowboys. Any gay film, period. But the "cowboy thing" didn´t help... how many jokes about it have we heard? People were ready to take the piss off the film. The fact that is the BP frontrunner is a huge accomplishment.
I wonder if, ten years from now if the movie wins BP, people will still be going on about this... "Oh yeah, that movie only won cause It was about gay cowboys... so Oscar-baity!"
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dar wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Libs wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Raffiki wrote: I actually think King Kong was snubbed from a Cinematography nod. Art Direction and Visual Effects were deserved. I don't really know the sound categories or how they judge and I don't really care, so I wouldn't mind trading in those two nods for a cinem. nod. Art Direction and Visual FX for KONG were more deserving than SITH???? That Lava Planet and Lightsaber fight around it had better FX in that 1 scene alone than KONG did throughout the whole movie..
And WALK THE LINE being snubbed for BEST PICTURE over BAREASS MOUNTAIN is a travesty to.. Perhaps if there were Gay sex involved in WALK THE LINE it would've been more of a contender.. Crash=no gay sex Munich=no gay sex Good Night and Good Luck=no sex at all Capote=a homosexual character but no sex at all Oh come on!! You can't possible deny that the subject matter and it's Boldness in BARECRACK MOUNTAIN and it's portrayal of 2 Gay Cowboys didn't cause this film to lead in it's campaign for a BEST PICTURE Win.. It's so blatantly obvious that it's the subject matter that will win BEST PICTURE in this movie more then the Quality itself.. They could've chosen a Man/Woman storyline and this movie wouldn't even be mentioned..I agree! Even better, Walk the line would have the oscars locked, LOCKED I TELL YOU, if it also had death penalty, Tv anchors, palestinian terrorists and Sandra Bullock. MORTAL LOCK!!!
Sandra Bullock falling from the stairs and then realizing that her best friend is her transexual maid, played by Felicity Huffman. Now that would be something... 
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