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Best Cinematography winner? Best Cinematography winner?
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David
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 Best Cinematography winner? The nominated films:  Changeling The Curious Case of Benjamin Button The Dark Knight The Reader Slumdog Millionaire* * * Interesting category. My thoughts: I put a line through Changeling first. While certainly an atmospheric and sumptuous period piece, it has the feel of an also-ran, IMO. I find it a bit strange this is Tom Stern's (Eastwood's usual D.P.) first Academy Award nomination. He seriously wasn't nominated for Million Dollar Baby or LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA? Wow. Maybe industry support for him isn't very strong. Also hurting Changeling is the presence of The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, which is a MORE atmospheric and sumptuous period piece. It's by far the most 'painterly' of the nominated films. However, Claudio Miranda is a very new name. The only other major film he shot? Failure to Launch. Though he did have smaller positions on prior Fincher films (Fight Club's gaffer, for example). The Dark Knight's the most contemporary and American of the five. While Wally Pfister is a great cinematographer (and an Academy favorite) and did a strong job, I'm not sure the film's cinematography... *pops* enough. Superbly lit, grand shots of Chicago... are they enough? Isn't there a general "beauty trumps craft" rule here? Of the five, The Reader has the least SPECTACULAR visuals. However, you can't deny the talent: Chris Menges and Roger Deakins. This is the fourth nomination for Menges; he previously won for The Killing Fields in the '80s. And this is the EIGHTH nomination for Deakins, who has never won. He's seriously, seriously, seriously overdue. Could he finally (co-)win one for this film? After all, it IS well-shot (for example, the scene where Michael visits an abandoned concentration camp), just not in a "every-frame-could-be-sold-in-a-gallery" way. And then there's Slumdog Millionaire. This is (Boyle regular) Anthony Dod Mantle's first nomination. The cinematography in "Slumdog" certainly is flashy -- bursting with color, lots of movement. And people will no doubt hugely respect the fact Mantle captured such diverse and memorable images on location in India. So, who's winning? _________________   1. The Lost City of Z - 2. A Cure for Wellness - 3. Phantom Thread - 4. T2 Trainspotting - 5. Detroit - 6. Good Time - 7. The Beguiled - 8. The Florida Project - 9. Logan and 10. Molly's Game
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Tyler
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? Changeling's lucky to be nominated. I personally think Stern's work is astoundingly self-conscious in its brooding, but whatever.
The Dark Knight being partially shot on IMAX really helps, and they seem to really like Pfister's work, but I question how much these idiots will appreciate the achievement.
The Reader I suppose could win on Deakins' name, but he almost wins every year.
Ben Button is pretty as hell, but the digital nomination is precedent enough, most likely.
I think it's Slumdog's to lose, and really that's okay. It's extremely flashy.
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? Ummm...compared to last year's Cinematography crop, this is just so blah. Every film in there had more interesting cinematography than whatever wins this year.
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? Slumdog vs Button like most other categories I think.
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? The Dark Knight
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? It's Slumdog to lose.
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junio
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? From an article about Claudio Miranda I posted here a while ago: Quote: Miranda -- who has known and worked with Fincher since 1985 in various photographic capacities, mostly as a lighting technician -- spent a lot of time at the locations prior to shooting.
"I tend to do a lot of homework, and that really helps," says Miranda, who has won several Clio awards for commercials. "If you've done that before you're shooting, it makes things a lot easier because you've already answered so many questions for yourself."
Though his work -- especially in the commercial and video realm -- has varied dramatically, Miranda readily acknowledges he leans toward a certain look.
"I do like soft light and manipulating soft light with contrast," says Miranda, who has shot videos for Beyonce, Velvet Revolver and Nickelback. "I feel like that can show a lot of emotion and can pull an audience into something quickly."
In addition to his artistic perspective, Miranda believes he's there to offer his director practical options.
"A d.p. has to be efficient and able to give the director options in terms of budget and time," Miranda says. "There's no moment when money and time are unlimited." But seriously, look at the stuff Wally Pfister was doing before hooking up with Nolan and now he's got 3 noms to his name in just a short amount of time. Deakins still hasn't won an Oscar, which I would've given to him for Barton Fink, but a shared win is not exactly the way to go, is it? Oh well, it's just like the Academy but I'm not sure this is his year, yet again. _________________
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? Tak Fujimoto should have won the year of Barton Fink for SOTL. Deakins should have won for Fargo, O Brother and No Country, though.
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? Slumdog probably, maybe Benjamin Button. This would be one of the early indicators of a possible BB upset.
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Re: Best Cinematography winner?
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? Anton Chigurh wrote: Tak Fujimoto should have won the year of Barton Fink for SOTL. Deakins should have won for Fargo, O Brother and No Country, though. Nono, Deakins should have clearly won for Jesse James last year _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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junio
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? They did make use of those huge IMAX cameras and the hospital scene alone was a work of art. I wouldn't mind TDK winning here at all.
I have to see Slumgod ASAP.
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Tyler
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? Dr. Lecter wrote: Anton Chigurh wrote: Tak Fujimoto should have won the year of Barton Fink for SOTL. Deakins should have won for Fargo, O Brother and No Country, though. Nono, Deakins should have clearly won for Jesse James last year But his work in No Country was so meticulous and beautifully-lit, even moreso than Jesse James, which was amazing too, but... There was a great ASC article too, but can't find it.
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Re: Best Cinematography winner? Just for the scene where the Joker has his head outside of the police car while driving through Gotham The Dark Knight should win.
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