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zingy
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 Bronenosets Potyomkin [Battleship Potemkin]
Battleship Potemkin Quote: The Battleship Potemkin (Russian: Броненосец «Потёмкин», Bronyenosyets Potyomkin), sometimes rendered as The Battleship Potyomkin, is a 1925 silent film directed by Sergei Eisenstein and produced by Mosfilm. It presents a dramatized version of the mutiny that occurred in 1905 when the crew of the Russian battleship Potemkin rebelled against their officers of the Tsarist regime.
The Battleship Potemkin has been called one of the most influential propaganda films of all time, and was named the greatest film of all time at the Brussels World's Fair in 1958. The film is in the public domain in some parts of the world.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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I must admit that I am pretty new to silent films and therefore, the movie is probably a little better than my rating. The experience was just quite unusual to me. That still doesn't change the fact that it is certainly a great movie and a great evidence of the time period it was created in. After this movie, I know where Spielberg got his inspiration for the girl in the read coat in Schindler's List (and there are tons of other movies that paid homage to Potemkin). I thought that the movie was a bit slow at the beginning, but the Odessa Steps sequence is one of the most tense and well-shot sequences I have seen in recent time. Very well-filmed and the music that accompaigns it is great and very well-chosen.
This movie is certainly a landmark in cinema history, especially technically-wise, but I just couldn't help, but have some issues with the propaganda nature of this movie. Still a great achievement and I'm glad that I finally saw it. The movie is not for everyone, I suppose, but I found it...interesting.
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kypade
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It is certainly well made, and can be quite interesting...but for the most part, this is one of those times where the "everything black and white is boring" people are right. Its just not very engaging. Slow, eneventful, and the title cards on the vhs I watched were pretty bad, so most of the time I was relying on the film itself which made for a bit of confusion. But. Definitely a must for (film) history buffs, if only for its editing and that Step sequence.
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:47 am |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
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Do I respect this film? Yeah sure, considering the limitations of the time its very well made and like others said the Steps sequence is a standout, but damn if I wasn't worn out by the blunt sledgehammer nature of the delivery.
I get it, its a silent film you have to be a bit more forward but for massive sections it was almost to much to handle. Couple that with the fact I was given absolutely no characters to care for and i'll fully admit this film was a chore to slog through.
Still I'm glad I watched it, and have "Strike" and "October" next up. Giving a grade would be a bit unfair as well, the film did what it could.
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Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:34 pm |
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thompsoncory
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14621 Location: LA / NYC
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I agree with what was said in the above posts. It's easy to see why this is such an important film in history, and the visuals are often great (the steps sequence in particular is spectacular and chilling). But it's just not very compelling and often quite dull.
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21889 Location: Walking around somewhere
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haha, is every film class the same
I saw Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, then Nosferatu, then Metropolis, now this.
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:52 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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Thegun wrote: haha, is every film class the same
I saw Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, then Nosferatu, then Metropolis, now this. I only saw it because I took a foreign film mood one night a bought around 25 films. This was one of them. I'm as far from a film class person as you can get 
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:15 pm |
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trixster
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Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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I think he's talking about me. I liked this one. It doesn't have a typical narrative with a linear story or even main characters, but the technical aspect is incredibly strong and the direction is terrific. The Odessa Steps sequence is simply remarkable. Sure, it's very heavy-handed and the ending is kinda weak, but its place in film history is unquestionable. And it's never really boring, either, something that can't be said for other films of its ilk.
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:13 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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trixster wrote: I think he's talking about me. I liked this one. It doesn't have a typical narrative with a linear story or even main characters, but the technical aspect is incredibly strong and the direction is terrific. The Odessa Steps sequence is simply remarkable. Sure, it's very heavy-handed and the ending is kinda weak, but its place in film history is unquestionable. And it's never really boring, either, something that can't be said for other films of its ilk. What happened to multiplex Trixster Wait I've seen October and Strike and you haven't!! Yes, my shallow usage of cinematic superiority can live on awhile longer. 
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:19 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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Gullimont wrote: What happened to multiplex Trixster School happened. I don't have a lot of time to watch films outside of the ones for class. I haven't been to the theatre in a month. Sorry. 
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:24 pm |
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makeshift
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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Gullimont wrote: trixster wrote: I think he's talking about me. I liked this one. It doesn't have a typical narrative with a linear story or even main characters, but the technical aspect is incredibly strong and the direction is terrific. The Odessa Steps sequence is simply remarkable. Sure, it's very heavy-handed and the ending is kinda weak, but its place in film history is unquestionable. And it's never really boring, either, something that can't be said for other films of its ilk. What happened to multiplex Trixster Wait I've seen October and Strike and you haven't!! Yes, my shallow usage of cinematic superiority can live on awhile longer.  I like the new Trixster! 
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:24 pm |
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Gulli
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makeshift wrote: Gullimont wrote: trixster wrote: I think he's talking about me. I liked this one. It doesn't have a typical narrative with a linear story or even main characters, but the technical aspect is incredibly strong and the direction is terrific. The Odessa Steps sequence is simply remarkable. Sure, it's very heavy-handed and the ending is kinda weak, but its place in film history is unquestionable. And it's never really boring, either, something that can't be said for other films of its ilk. What happened to multiplex Trixster Wait I've seen October and Strike and you haven't!! Yes, my shallow usage of cinematic superiority can live on awhile longer.  I like the new Trixster!  If not for our mutual love of the Three Colours Trilogy I would curse you!! But Infortunately all these foreign films I've just watched are killing me..................I even enjoyed Andrei Rublev on a re-watch!! Needs a mindless blockbuster and quick! 
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:30 pm |
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snack
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I'm the only A? Appalling, guys.
It's completely engrossing.
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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It's more important than excellent. I've never found it that engrossing.
I prefer Eisenstein's (unfinished) ¡Que Viva Mexico!
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snack
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no it's actually really damn excellent/effective/enthralling and of course, engrossing.
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Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:54 am |
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Argos
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Joined: Sat May 13, 2006 2:20 pm Posts: 7952 Location: Wherever he went, including here, it was against his better judgment.
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It is momentous but it does not satisfy my filmic needs.
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Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:05 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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The Odessa Steps scene is brilliant. The movie works well as far as cinematic means go...but can't look past the blatant propaganda.
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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Dr. Lecter wrote: The Odessa Steps scene is brilliant. The movie works well as far as cinematic means go...but can't look past the blatant propaganda. But doesn't that make it an even more interesting document? I think I shall vote A.
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:55 pm |
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trixster
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You just want to get into snack's pants/facebook.
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:06 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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True, but I still think it's an A picture.
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:07 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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yoshue wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: The Odessa Steps scene is brilliant. The movie works well as far as cinematic means go...but can't look past the blatant propaganda. But doesn't that make it an even more interesting document? A document does not warrant an A, though. It was simply too in your face.
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:57 pm |
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snack
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nah....I think you were just bored.
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:17 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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If you say so.
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:23 pm |
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_axiom
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8/10 -> Bsnackosaurus wrote: it's actually really damn excellent/effective/enthralling and of course, engrossing. Dr. Lecter wrote: (tralalalala)... blatant propaganda. These thoughts are both more than valid. Editing here is really good for a movie this old. I love how there is no main character - in every sequence basically in a mass of people one or a few of them always get singled out and "become" the centerpiece of the act. It's wonderful and brilliant. That's especially evident in the already mentioned Odessa stairs sequence. Everyone runs down the stairs - and in one second when a woman loses her child that got shot and stampeded on she become the lead and the symbol of pain. I loved the woman's acting. And after that the way the baby cart was filmed was pure genius. And it's not that they are some great actors and actresses, because it's more than evident that they're not. Today some actors/actresses can't find their mojo during the whole running time. Geeez. The film's main problem is it's last part that's too weak to even be discussed. It completely brings down the movie.
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Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:57 am |
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_axiom
The Wall
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Oh and I forgot to say that the "Kill the Jews!" scene was one of the most surprising WTF? moments and possibly one of the most hilarious ones I've ever seen.
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