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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22213 Location: Places
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 Re: Man of Steel
Critics are retarded.
RETURNS was too boring and campy. They removed 100% of the camp and loaded it with action, and they still whine.
Sighs.
Where were these guys when Nolan totally butchered Two Face?
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:13 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
Forum General
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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 Re: Man of Steel
Excel is wrong as Nolan's Two Face is more interesting then before.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:20 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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Excel wrote: Critics are retarded.
RETURNS was too boring and campy. They removed 100% of the camp and loaded it with action, and they still whine. They also removed 67% of the character beats.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:32 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19444 Location: San Diego
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I decided to see it again this morning in Imax 3D. 2D is definitely the way to see this, I didn't notice the 3D at all. Liked the movie just as much as I did last night. And I dunno what the heck I was talking about last night, obvious Lois knows it's him at the end
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:19 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22213 Location: Places
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 Re: Man of Steel
Mannyisthebest wrote: Excel is wrong as Nolan's Two Face is more interesting then before. And this superman is 100x more awesome. Its purists whining and nothing more. That is the truth.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:43 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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The purists are the ones defending the film. Every reaction I've gotten on Twitter is, "Oh, so you don't read the comic book? Shows what you know!!"
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:11 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22213 Location: Places
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_________________Ari Emmanuel wrote: I'd rather marry lindsay Lohan than represent Mel Gibson.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:39 pm |
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:22 pm Posts: 12333
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Fantastic! It's just an amazing film from start to finish. The first hour is great because it puts the whole backstory together in a way where it could all be communicated clearly without annoying filler. You got strong character development from just these little moments and the development for Lois and Clark gets better as the film progresses. The film doesn't follow the usual superhero storyline and just sticks with the events at hand without getting sidetracked with other BS. The entire cast is aces. The action though, that was what I wanted from a Superman movie. The action staying as fast as Superman's speed was a joy to watch and I was so giddy during that last hour of pure fighting.
Definitely one of the best superhero films made.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:05 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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jmovies wrote: The film doesn't follow the usual superhero storyline Um, yeah it does. About an hour spent with the hero while he learns who he is/develops his powers, then he gets the costume, and then the bad guy shows up. It follows the superhero origin film template pretty rigidly, actually, down to the second half not being as good as the first half. See also: SPIDER-MAN BATMAN BEGINS IRON MAN
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:16 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Not as awesome as its first half.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:37 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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Can we just shake on the fact BATMAN BEGINS is great?
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:54 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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For the first hour and a half, I found this to be an entertaining film, if a tad disjointed as it cuts from nostalgic small-town past to hectic, plot centric present, a flaw I forgive in part because I remember how tedious The Amazing Spider-Man proved to be as it told yet again one of superhero mythology's most recognizable origin stories. Not structuring this film in exact chronological order lets it sidestep this flaw, even if the editing, the flow from scene to scene, is nowhere near as graceful as it could be. There are four or five astonishing sequences, though shortcomings also reveal themselves, including a thinly conceived vision of Lois Lane played by a disengaged Amy Adams. She is among the most gifted performers of her generation, yet fails to find the soul or pavement-pounding journalistic verve within this once iconic, here generic character. In general, the softer, more humane or humorous components of the Superman mythology are absent or poorly represented here, such as the Daily Planet, to the enterprise's detriment, even if it nails, say, the gravity of the father/son dynamics at play. The film's true plague, though, is its final hour: Christ, overblown is an understatement as it reaches a Transformers level of destruction, disorientation, noise, and violence without impact or investment. One super-punch is grand. Five, even. By the fiftieth, and by the thirtieth crumbling building (September 11th on steroids), spectacle has given way to exhaustion.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:02 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
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I imagine this is just hideous in 3-D with the extensive use of hand-held cameras and the strongly desaturated color palette.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:04 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32629 Location: the last free city
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U suck, David 
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:07 pm |
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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The Dark Shape wrote: One of the things that really rubbed me the wrong way was the complete destruction of Metropolis and Superman's utter disinterest in doing anything other than throwing Zod into things and causing people to die. I 100 percent agree. It is much too much. There would be hundreds of thousands of people dead or maimed. The city is -toasted- by the end. How many damn skyscrapers collapse? Fifteen? I love how it ends with Clark bicycling through Metropolis; they sure rebuilt it fast!
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:10 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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David wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: One of the things that really rubbed me the wrong way was the complete destruction of Metropolis and Superman's utter disinterest in doing anything other than throwing Zod into things and causing people to die. I 100 percent agree. It is much too much. There would be hundreds of thousands of people dead or maimed. The city is -toasted- by the end. How many damn skyscrapers collapse? Fifteen? It's not even the size of the destruction -- if Zod was causing it I understand. But the fact Superman himself is causing this shit to happen... Yeesh. It's like an alternate version of THE DARK KNIGHT where Batman finds the Joker's hideout and then activates a nuclear bomb just to be sure.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:16 pm |
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David
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The romance with Lois is strange here, too. Their meet-cute is her being shot by a robot and him cauterizing the wound with his eyes.  The dour, macho tone allows no room for any playful romance, let alone any tender interaction, so his out-of-the-blue concern for her safety and hers for his is unearned.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:18 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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The Lois/Clark romance exists purely because it's expected to happen. Sort of like Clark showing up at the Daily Planet at the end. The movie doesn't build to or earn that; it's just what is expected to happen, so it's tossed in.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:20 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Natural career progression for a rugged Gloucester fisherman.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:26 pm |
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Biggestgeekever
I heet the canadian!
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:58 am Posts: 5192 Location: The Great _______
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Johnny Dollar wrote: I'm afraid this fact is getting lost, even amongst the people who have noticed how bad this movie is. Oh man Cavill is the pits in this thing. He's so bad, I feel like it had to be a conscious decision. Seriously, this film is a mess. I'd call it disaster porn, but I'm pretty sure Roland Emmerich films are more joyous than this.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:27 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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David wrote: Natural career progression for a rugged Gloucester fisherman. I had expected some throwaway line about Clark liking to write. But nope.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:33 pm |
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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He was reading Plato in one scene!
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:34 pm |
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David
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Oh, I don't mean this as a criticism, but rather an observation: I was surprised how "science fiction" a great deal of this felt. I know Superman's alien origin is always a central part of the story, but this is far more genre oriented, far more Star Wars, than the other films. Russell Crowe riding a dragon around Krypton, etc.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:36 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Within ten minutes the movie is a STAR WARS prequel and AVATAR and THE MATRIX.
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:38 pm |
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Biggestgeekever
I heet the canadian!
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I forget who it was (I think Dark Shape?) who mentioned how we'd be terrified of Superman after his fight with Zod, and I 100% agree. He shows literally zero regard for the buildings that are imploding around him that surely have people inside. If he cared about humans like we're told over and over again, he would have tried to bait Zod away from the heavily populated Metropolis. This also made him snapping Zod's neck because he threatened to vaporize one family feel oh so hollow. Magnus wrote: yo....Roland Emmerich films are awesome. Universal Soldier, Stargate, ID4, The Patriot, and 2012 are highly entertaining flicks. And that's why I'd take all those over Man of Steel. Except maybe The Patriot. 
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Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:40 pm |
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