As far as the score goes, I was recently informed that the rising piece that we hear accompanying the ships arriving and again at the end in a montage sequence is not Horner, rather it was composed by Richard Wagner. In addition, the delicate piano that appears in some of the scenes between Smith and Pocahontas is also another classical piece and not original score. The rest is James Horner's original creation, for example, the very opening credits where we see the maps and drawings and some of the scenes with Rolfe and Pocahontas where we hear a few cues vaguely reminiscent of Braveheart. His material is still quite good, there just really isn't that much of it.

Something in the back of my mind did tell me that the music was somehow familiar. Not being an expert, I dismissed it. Nevertheless, I hope those two segments are on the cd.

Something in the back of my mind did tell me that the last two posts were somehow familiar. Not being an expert, I dismissed it. Nevertheless, I hope those two segments are on the forum archive.

you are indeed odd.

It was a little joke based on your accidental double post - which you've since deleted...

I love your jokes. Your sig kills me.

So I just finished seeing it and here are my impressions.

1. Visually the movie was stunning in its minimalism (in terms of actual people present) and its attention to nature/water.

2. Like Naomi Watts, Kilcher made the movie IMO. She owned the screen and even made colin farrel look good Wow and to think she's only 15 or 14 at the time. She really really really really made the movie as great as it was (IMO again ).

3. The score was great. Normally I don't really pay attention to the score, but since you guys have been ranting about it I was paying close attention and realized that it had too much screen time 2/3s of the movie had music involved.

4. I didn't get the ending bit when she reunites with john smith and then returns to christian bale all happy? I must have missed something

Overall the movie was very entertaining and I agree with Loyal in that this movie is one based on Romance. Intersting that no one ever called her Pocahontas in the movie (unless if I missed it) and just called her Rebecca... that was interesting but it added to the mistique of the character.

As of now my grade is a 8.25/10

Kilcher owned the movie.. wow I was astounded as to how easily she made her perfomance seem. I actually think that she deserves more praise for this role than Naomi Watt's in King Kong (who was in my number 1 female acting position before seeing the New World).

Off to class and will post more later.

I really found it odd how the civilized the Virginians in terms of their treatment of natives and of native women.. Must be all these gender sociology/history classes that make me believe that all males born before 1950 are evil and masoginists

Also, I saw the movie alone and I started to hate all the water scenes as I had my school bag and jacket and no one to look after them as I had to go to the bathroom... I was in quite a predicament and simply tested my bladder's endurance.

I loved it.

It rivals BBM for best film of the year...

I have to think about it. The visuals... wow.

I think the opening sequence deserves best picture.

And a few notes:

1. I saw the 135m cut. It seems like everyone is seeing a different version. I was very satisfied with it and I can't think of much more that *needs* to be extended.

2. Horner was amazing. It seems like the opening sequence/closing were done by him, as they sort of reminded me of the Perfect Storm (I think he did that?). Anyway, great stuff. Does anyone know what the name of the opening is? I'd like to download it.

the underground movement begins

Seriously.

I could almost put it on top of BBM. Almost

I think this one could miss out on everything come Oscar time. Maybe it'll be the surprise entrant?

I know how this will sound but fuck it.

I was talking to someone today about the films I've watched recently. And when I got to The New World, I teared up.

I feel like somehow I've changed. I don't know, I'm insane. Damn you Malick.

Ok, yea. That might be going a bit too far. Tis okay. They have treatment for your type.


Heh.

Man, everyone in my theater (twenty or so) needed to chill the f%@# out. Lots of WALKING around the theater. WTF? That's never happened. Having little conversations, texting, kicking chairs.

Impatience for the film to end?

I feel their pain.

Oh yeah. I have never been in a theater were five, six people actually walk back and forth across the little isles between the seats (stadium) and then sit back down. Why not leave?

It wasn't THAT long.

Spending hard earned money?

Not everyone walks into other films. Heh.

If I don't enjoy something (Cassanova, more recently), I get up and see something more interesting. Why waste time on an unpleasant experience?

They probably had Restless Leg Syndrome or something and actually loved TNW.

Did they think you were weird?

No, she thought it was cute.

Honestly, its technically superior to BBM, imo. Its a bit the content that still had me leaning towards Brokeback, as I've mentioned the love aspect felt a bit too conservative a read for me.

I want to see loyal cry over a movie, but you know..he said the same thing about Sith when it first came out, so I consider him a bit flippant. :-P

Neo? You liked it too? Yay!

I think when she returns to Bale its about how she's been searching for the proper path to walk (she says so, often in her voiceovers, about being unsure of herself and what she should do). Meeting up years later with Smith, she realizes it is not her path. Its a bit akin to how Smith and Rolfe approached Virginia settlement, actually. Smith was looking for instant fame and fortune, and didn't stick around. He lost out (both as far as Rebecca was concerned, but also as far as reeping the rewards of "The New World." He did pretty much die broke. Anyways, that's how I read her picking a "path," anyways.

dolce,

Seeing as how I can relate more to BBM, it gets that extra edge. That, and Heath Ledger - fantastic stuff.

I found Farrell to be sort of average in the New World, but probably his best job yet. It was Kilcher that really sealed the deal. Anything she was on screen, I was captivated.

Technically, yes, New World owns BBM. The cinematography is some of the best I've ever seen. The score can't be missed, either! Best of the year.

All this reverence for The New World.

Funny thing is, The New World was never supposed to be that film of 2005 for me.

I was blindsided. And I'm loving it.

It's fun when a movie comes out of nowhere and sweeps you away. The best kind.

Maybe that's why we all love it so much? Maybe (the other) Zach is right?

Nah

I can't explain it, but I was in love with the movie not after ten minutes. I really like the style. I read somewhere that true genius is making the things we see in our everyday life stand out. That hidden beauty we pass over each day. The New World makes you appreciate that beauty, imo.

Alright, enough of my "ingenue" rambling.