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Chippy
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 Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Poor you. Maybe you should see a therapist.
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Dr. Lecter
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Heh, Bay reused The Island footage for the highway scene.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Magnus wrote: The 3D... didn't make the movie worse. A ringing endorsement for the ages!
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David
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It's sad Sam's parents survived all three movies. Would have loved to have seen a Decepticon behead the mother or something.
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Rev
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The best money shot of the whole film (beside seeing Sam's gf walking up the stairs in her panties in 3D) was...when Bumblebee ejects Sam out, transforms, fucks shit up, and shoves him back in... all in glorious Michael Bay slow-mo. 
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Rev
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A friend of mine HATeD IT! skaje wrote: Alright, I was able to catch the movie this past weekend. I wasn't really sure what to expect, most of the reviews seemed to hate the movie (38% on rottentomatoes), but there were quite a few that said it was a step up from the mess that was Revenge of the Fallen. Some even declared it the best of the trilogy. So I went in with mixed expectations, just hoping for a decent fun popcorn movie that didn't hurt my brain like the last one. And what I got instead was
jesus fucking christ the worst motherfucking piece of flaming cock shit movie I have ever had the misfortune of seeing. Fuck this movie, fuck everything about it. Was it better than TF2? NO. IT WAS WORSE. Revenge of the Fallen was an unmitigated disaster, a script-less clusterfuck of a movie where you could almost hear Michael Bay apologizing for how stupid and nonsensical it accidentally turned out due to the writers' strike. But Dark of the Moon seems to have deliberately been crafted to be the worst movie ever made. No external factors here, this was the purest distillation of Michael Bay's vision and what he sees is a universe filled with doodoo feces. It's the intentional retardation of TF3 that finally convinced me that Michael Bay truly is an awful director on the level of Uwe Boll, and that the second movie wasn't the accident, it was the first one that was. Somehow the first Transformers movie, through some magical series of happy coincidences, managed to not suck (whether it was the greater influence of Spielberg, or the more restrained performances from the humans, or the newness of it all). But Transformers 3 is Michael Bay's magnum opus of shit, where he gets to do everything he always wanted to do and every step of the way it is the worst possible thing in the history of cinema. If you gave me this movie and asked me to adjust some details to make it even worse, I COULD NOT DO IT, besides simply making it longer.
The humans. Dear god the humans. Every second you see a human face you want to punch it. Every actor and actress involved delivers the worst performances of their careers. Watch John Malkovich, Frances McDormand, Alan Tudyk, John Turturro, Ken Jeong, and most of all Shia LeBeouf compete for this year's razzies. It's a waste of talent not unlike that of the Star Wars prequels, where George Lucas reduced such brilliant actors as Liam Neeson, Natalie Portman, and Ewan McGregor to cardboard cutouts. And all of it is so goddamn unnecessary. Rather than the human characters in TF3 doing things that actually seem important to the plot (like the tension-building early stuff in the first movie), they just run around making complete dumbasses of themselves for 90 minutes as the real meat of the plot happens without them. Quite a lot of time is spent on Shia trying to get a job. Why? Because Michael Bay hates his audience. It is filled with attempts at comedy so bad I basically spent the whole time facepalming. There is literally nothing at all redeeming about the first 90 minutes, which is usually enough time for more competent directors to deliver entire satisfactory movies. And Shia's new girlfriend.....yeeeagghhh gods she was fucking terrible. She made Megan Fox look like Meryl fucking Streep.
So I was at least ready to start liking the movie an hour and a half in once it seemed that the Transformers were about to take central stage, but NOOOOO the humans kept showing up and doing fucking stupid things. The reviews are claiming the last hour is a rollercoaster of pure all-out robot mayhem, but it feels like you're riding a sine wave of poop as the rollercoaster makes its way towards shit mountain. EXPLOSION! Shia LeBeouf making a fool of himself. BLAM! That skinny chick making pouty face. BOOM! Tyrese screaming at something. They keep cutting the robot action with shitty human stuff like a drug dealer who cuts his cocaine with baby laxative. Shia's girlfriend character actually has a stupid little conversation with Megatron towards the end where she magically convinces him to turn on his ally. Wow. I wanted to jump on the screen with a knife and slide down it like Errol Flynn in those old pirate movies.
Another reason I despise this film is how it wastes so much potential. The basic plot of this one actually could have gone somewhere interesting as it is about **SPOILER** Sentinel Prime realizing the civil war threatens to exterminate both Autobots and the Decepticons, and be the complete end of their species. So he agrees to a truce in the future in which they will work together to bring their planet to other worlds and use the resources to rebuild Cybertron. It's a nice idea and I could even sympathize with the robots involved. But the movie is not interested in exploring such grey areas. Instead Sentinel simply becomes evil and starts killing other Autobots without even trying to make them understand what he is doing. Megatron is totally invisible in this film, skulking around doing jack shit, before suddenly appearing at the end to challenge Optimus to a final battle, which is over in literally a second. An hour of "action" at the end, but if you blink you miss the final showdown between Optimus and Megatron?! Fuck this shit. I always thought Megatron was the most interesting character in these movies and they couldn't even give him a proper send off. And it's not like they ran out of time. Optimus spends like 20 minutes tangled in fucking wires in the sky before that which is a convenient way to keep him out of the fight as humans have to run around and do stupid things. I wanted to see robots beat the crap out of each other, not humans sliding around in a tilting building. I repeat again. Tangled. In. Wires. For. 20. Minutes. The last hour of the film probably only has like 10 minutes of actual action if you cut out all the scenes of people walking around or talking to each other.
So yeah, there are a few shiny moments in the movie. But they are overshadowed by just how mindnumbingly and aggressively stupid the rest of the film is. Action movies do not have to be like this. Michael Bay chooses to do this. There are genuinely amazing films out there like Inception and then something like this crap comes along and will probably make a lot more money. It's like hanging the Mona Lisa next to a portrait of a man slowly working a soldering iron up his ass. It's flat out insulting that Michael Bay thinks action movies have to be this dumb. The racist bots are gone, but two irritating tiny robots continue to run around fucking up any enjoyment you might get. When those two end up bringing down a giant Decepticon ship at the end all I could think of was Jar Jar Binks defeating the Droid army on Naboo. People don't look back at Star Wars Episode I and say yeah it had its problems, but damn I loved the action. No, they say it was a piece of shit. And so is this film. I give it the worst rating I've ever given anything.
0/10
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:41 am |
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A. G.
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I saw it in 3D on July 4th which seemed an appropriate way to celebrate the holiday.
Some thoughts...
The effects and action scenes were great. Pretty much everything involving the Transformers was entertaining. The girl was terrible. Without knowing anything about her she was obviously a model and not an actress and had an annoyingly bland an immature face. They should have just gone with a real actress. A good actress can be convincingly play pretty more than a model can convincingly act. Dempsey was surprisingly good, the only actor in the movie who seemed to be really trying. I was surprised how almost-unlikable Shia's character was. Is Malkovich that desperate for work? They could have edited out most of Turturro's scenes and nothing would have been lost. In fact they could have edited out almost all of the humans and not much would have been lost. The attempts at comedy were really lame.
But spectacle was what I went for and I got it.
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
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Dark of the Moon is the sequel to Transformers that Revenge of the Fallen should of been. There is an actual tolerable story here, the action is quite good (especially in 3D), and everything just seems to blend together well. Now this is not a better film than the first but it just does so many things better than the last that it is good passable entertainment. **1/2
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Mannyisthebest
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It is a quite an improvement over the 2nd one and is a film with some amazing action however it lacks the spark that made the first one so popular and well liked. Micheal Bay needs to understand that action is amazing and great but to make films that will popular with everyone you need to make the action serve a purpose.
Anyways, improvements over TF2 are much slower, epic, clearer action scenes. Action scenes that do not seem pointless. Less retarded plot and is a bit interesting.
No more stupid comedy, as there are no dogs humping, no balls dangling, no ghetto twins.
The Villains are actually much more cooler and put up a fight.
The films however has some of the same flaws as TF2. The story and the length. Having all the big villians out is great but it serves no purpose if they do not do anything. Megatron was useless, however Starscream was better in this. Shockwave was awesome as well. Sentinal Prime was a great character but needed more depth and the fight between them should have been slowed down like all the action scenes were slowed down.
All the action was great apart from the final fight. It was like Micheal Bay went "its 2.5 hours, okay everyone lets wrap this up". Bay should cut off the 15 mins of random shots of the girl and of military hardware and focus on giving a proper conclusion like in the first one. He needs to understand that the audience wants not only great action at the end but a fitting end to the story.
Lastly it was the legth, the film is just way too long. 20 mins way long and there is no need for it.
Anyways overall a B to B+
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Bradley Witherberry
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Mannyisthebest wrote: Less retarded plot and is a bit interesting.
B+
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Mannyisthebest
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The plot is not great but compared to ROTF its way better. 
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Biggestgeekever
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Just because the last 4 of the film's 9 hours is one giant battle, doesn't mean it's not a terrible film. It does means TF3 is slightly less putrid than the second, though. 
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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I really really wanted to like this film. I still say that the first one is a hugely enjoyable piece of entertainment and a fine blockbuster. The second was had some solid moments, but was overall too long and too boring with some pretty WTF ideas (like the annoying roommate or Transformers balls). And sadly, TF3 is not much different. During te final hour I was just wondering when it'd end. Seriously. It felt like it'd go on forever. I mean X-Men: First Class is about 25 minutes shorter and yet feels about an hour shorter than TF3.
3D was great, though, Top 5 best 3D use-material. But the final showdown dragged on...and on....and on.
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Mannyisthebest
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Yeah the climax was too long and there was to much focus on side battles.
Bay should have made it shorter and focused more on Optimus vs Sentinel Prime.
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Not long enough. Not enough final battle.
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BJ
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Chippy wrote: Not long enough. Not enough final battle. +1
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2001
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BJ wrote: Chippy wrote: Not long enough. Not enough final battle. +1 +2
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2001 wrote: BJ wrote: Chippy wrote: Not long enough. Not enough final battle. +1 +2 -10
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The Dark Shape
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2001 wrote: BJ wrote: Chippy wrote: Not long enough. Not enough final battle. +1 +2 The people responsible for three hour long Pirates of the Caribbean films, ladies and gentlemen.
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David
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Michael Bay hates robots from space. Don't let the fact he has directed three Transformers movies fool you. They are just a means to an end: lots and lots and lots of shots beefcake military dudes in action.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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I absolutely don't mind long movies. Or even long action blockbusters. The Dark Knight's running time is perfect. X-Men: First Class could have gone on for even longer. Avatar's running time is absolutely fine. Revenge of the Sith was fine. Hell, even the first Transformers felt fine.
But this just felt so....tedious towards the end. I stopped caring about what robot smashed what robot. It felt so incoherent....just as excuse to show up (admittedly well-done) visual effects. No tension in the fights, very few WOW-moments, despite a million of money shots.
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Chippy wrote: Poor you. Maybe you should see a therapist. I'll be fine, thanks for your concern. So flattering to see people interested in me and my reviews.
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David
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The best "money shots" were the ones with the skydivers/'wingmen.' There was a real sense of, "Holy shit, this is a crazy cinematic experience" in those few moments.
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Gunslinger wrote: The best "money shots" were the ones with the skydivers/'wingmen.' There was a real sense of, "Holy shit, this is a crazy cinematic experience" in those few moments. I actually thought that skydiving nonsense was just that. Just to many human soldier scenes taking on giant robots. Enough already. Sam killed Starscream for heavens sakes. Seriously...
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Chippy
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The Dark Shape wrote: 2001 wrote: BJ wrote: Chippy wrote: Not long enough. Not enough final battle. +1 +2 The people responsible for three hour long Pirates of the Caribbean films, ladies and gentlemen. Those are too long. Not enough robots.
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