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Timayd
The 5th B-Sharp
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Magnus wrote: Timayd wrote: From Magnus this is honestly the best we could hope for I LOVE Pixar. TS, TS2, and Monster's Inc are all in my top 100. It's just that....after those three, the quality goes down signficantly for me. The films are good still, but they just aren't....special. I don't know. Maybe it was because I was a kid when I saw those films, and am grown up now(though I'm still very much a kid). Or maybe its because the films I have just actually...not been as good. Or maybe it's both. I don't know. Fact is that, I think Pixar has lost its edge....and I think that all will change with Wall-E. I don't know why, but everything about that project screams "fucking brilliant."
I really meant for your feelings toward Brad Bird not Pixar
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Brad Bird is a God and the best American animation director since Chuck Jones (yes he is better than Hanna & Barbara).
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Chuck Jones is better, besides Hanna & Barbara's Tom & Jerry and the Flintstones, but Tex Avery beats them all with one hand tied behind his back!
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:02 pm Posts: 4767
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The film was beautiful as everyone has mentioned and I like that the movie did not rely on star voice talent to bring in the audience. Peter O'Toole was fantastic.
Has anyone here noticed the strong reoccurring theme of individualism in Brad Bird's films? I think he may be in my top 5 current directors.
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Jiffylush
Aspiring Director
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:55 pm Posts: 47 Location: NC
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MovieDude wrote: Libs wrote: Yeah, I have a hard time seeing this not have legs. It's such a wonderful delight, I don't know how anyone but a soulless cretin couldn't even smile or anything during it. You'd have to be a kid I think - both the 5 and 7 year old we brought with us said "it was too long" and were bored senseless. Mark my words, this is the first Pixar movie that, in it's attempt to be a fantastic film for adults, forgot about it's youngest demographic.
My kids are 3 and 5 and they both loved it. My 3 year old had to go to the bathroom near the end and he literally ran back into the theater because he didn't want to miss it.
The theater we watched it at Sunday afternoon was almost full and most were with kids. I think it held everyone's attention and there was clapping at the end, which I normally don't see here.
Again I loved this movie and am really glad I got to see it in the theater.
ps. the rat aspect did freak me out some but I think that kind of added to the experience.
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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I loved it. I think I may have found my new favorite film of 2007. The animation was simply amazing...how Pixar does it is beyond me. The voice performances were great, especially Peter O'Toole. Never has an animated film made me want to visit a city as much as this did...Paris was breathtaking.
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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loyalfromlondon wrote: I totally expected to like but not love this film. I figured it would fall below The Iron Giant and The Incredibles. Boy was I wrong!
When Ego experiences the Ratatouille, the film really transcends its genre.
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I have to add I was extremely creeped out when all the rats started working in the kitchen.
I'm glad you loved it! It's always good to have loyal on one's side
I was creeped out too. In fact, I was surprised that the film did not shy away from showing rats in an..unwholesome way. Like, at th very beginning with the silhouette of the evil-looking rat before we get to see the cute Remi.
In general, any time there were more than two or three rats on the screen, it started to gross me out. The whole clan running out of the house or the kitchen was just...argh!
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Biggestgeekever
I heet the canadian!
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:58 am Posts: 5192 Location: The Great _______
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Box wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: I totally expected to like but not love this film. I figured it would fall below The Iron Giant and The Incredibles. Boy was I wrong!
When Ego experiences the Ratatouille, the film really transcends its genre.
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I have to add I was extremely creeped out when all the rats started working in the kitchen. I'm glad you loved it! It's always good to have loyal on one's side I was creeped out too. In fact, I was surprised that the film did not shy away from showing rats in an..unwholesome way. Like, at th very beginning with the silhouette of the evil-looking rat before we get to see the cute Remi. In general, any time there were more than two or three rats on the screen, it started to gross me out. The whole clan running out of the house or the kitchen was just...argh! That was one of the great things about this film for me was just how "ratlike" the rats were. I expected them to act more like people when I went in to see it.
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:12 pm |
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Box
Extraordinary
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Biggestgeekever wrote: That was one of the great things about this film for me was just how "ratlike" the rats were. I expected them to act more like people when I went in to see it.
Aside from Remi and his brother, none of them were cute at all. His father looked gross, and so did all the others. Even the kid rats.
I'm trying to figure out just how they got away with all of this. Oh yes, brilliant screenplay coupled with brilliant animation, music, and voice talent.
Also, anyone else found the cook who (allegedly) killed a man with his thumb hilarious? When towards the end he shows his thumb to the diminutive chef...priceless.
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Box
Extraordinary
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I missed that too, because people were laughing too hard!!!
Someone tell us!
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Biggestgeekever
I heet the canadian!
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Box wrote: Also, anyone else found the cook who (allegedly) killed a man with his thumb hilarious? When towards the end he shows his thumb to the diminutive chef...priceless.  I think my favorite was the guy who fought in the "Resistence that lost".
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21895 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Oh not sure if it was mentioned, the beginning short was fantastic about the Alien abducting test. That was awesome in my opinion.
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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loyalfromlondon wrote: I have to add I was extremely creeped out when all the rats started working in the kitchen.
It was actually then that I thought the film reached a kind of whimsy made out of something odd not seen since Toy Story made toys chasing after a movie van thrilling.
LOVED it. Probably my third-fave Pixar after The Incredibles and Toy Story 1.
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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The more I think about it, the more I love this movie. The underlying theme was fantastic and Peter O'Toole's speech at the end! Ah, I teared up when his dad got all the rats to help cook. This was such a good movie.
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Groucho
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Forgive me for not writing a huge review, but just came back and was delighted. It made me hungry! We went out to eat immediately afterwards and were frustrated that we weren't in Paris.
Much improved over Cars, which to me was the weakest Pixar film (although that's not saying much; a weak Pixar film is still better than 99% of all the other films out there). Glad to see them back in form!
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Groucho
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Magnus wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Chuck Jones is better, besides Hanna & Barbara's Tom & Jerry and the Flintstones, but Tex Avery beats them all with one hand tied behind his back! Chuck Jones >>> Avery >>> H&B
Bah! There would be no Chuck Jones without Tex Avery. Tex was pushing the boundaries of humorous animation while Chuck was still doing cutsey-cute "Sniffles the Mouse" cartoons. And while Jones has some great classic films, 95% of Avery's are classic. People just don't know him as well because MGM didn't show their cartoons every Saturday like WB did.
Tex Avery >> Bob Clampett >> Chuck Jones >> Friz Freling >> H/B
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
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With over 6,000 votes and still a 9.0 average this is now freaking #33 on the IMDb Top 250.  I wonder how far it can go...
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Dkmuto
Forum General
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Positive* Jon wrote: With over 6,000 votes and still a 9.0 average this is now freaking #33 on the IMDb Top 250.  I wonder how far it can go...
Wow. 33rd best film of all-time, don't know about that, but I did love it, and think it's the year's best thus far.
It's just non-stop, unadulterated delight, from start to finish. Brad Bird's direction is evident and predictably excellent, taking the art of storytelling to places it's never been before (except, natch, in The Iron Giant and The Incredibles).
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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great film. still prefer incredibles and cars over this one but still, great film.
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:20 am |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
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so
who thinks ego's speech was sort of inspired from the reviews that cars received? not the whole thing but parts of it. just a thought.
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Biggestgeekever
I heet the canadian!
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loyalfromlondon wrote: hmmm
In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face is that, in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. Last night, I experienced something new, an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto: Anyone can cook. But I realize that only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere. It is difficult to imagine more humble origins than those of the genius now cooking at Gusteau's, who is, in this critic's opinion, nothing less than the finest chef in France. I will be returning to Gusteau's soon, hungry for more. Such a wonderfually written and acted speech. Easily my second favorite scene of any film this year (first is Ego's "food-tasting" revalation).
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
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A Much Better BOX wrote: so
who thinks ego's speech was sort of inspired from the reviews that cars received? not the whole thing but parts of it. just a thought.
I really doubt Pixar is as childish as M. Night to pull something like that. I think it's just an honest observation of Bird's, considering his first two films received unanimous praise from critics. Also, it's not as though the critics trashed Cars, they simply felt it wasn't up to par with Pixar's other works.
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:46 pm |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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Positive* Jon wrote: A Much Better BOX wrote: so
who thinks ego's speech was sort of inspired from the reviews that cars received? not the whole thing but parts of it. just a thought. I really doubt Pixar is as childish as M. Night to pull something like that. I think it's just an honest observation of Bird's, considering his first two films received unanimous praise from critics. Also, it's not as though the critics trashed Cars, they simply felt it wasn't up to par with Pixar's other works.
I doubt they're that childish too. However, I do feel that at the same time, Pixar wouldn't do anythign to get back at people but instead actually believe in what they wish to say. to me, pixar is a bold company, not wanting to actually attack but instead, just saying it like it is.
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:33 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Biggestgeekever wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: hmmm
In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face is that, in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. Last night, I experienced something new, an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto: Anyone can cook. But I realize that only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere. It is difficult to imagine more humble origins than those of the genius now cooking at Gusteau's, who is, in this critic's opinion, nothing less than the finest chef in France. I will be returning to Gusteau's soon, hungry for more. Such a wonderfually written and acted speech. Easily my second favorite scene of any film this year (first is Ego's "food-tasting" revalation).
That is is. O'Toole delivered it brilliantly.
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Jonathan
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Bah, Ratatouille is now down to #40 on the IMDb chart. I hope it can at least stay in the top 100. That'd be awesome.
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