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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Huh, well it was very entertaining, that's for sure. There were so many WTF moments though. That entire dance sequence was probably the best part of the movie up until the horrible dance club ending. This definitely ranks 3rd among the films, but it wasn't terrible.
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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hehe, first midnight showing Ive ever been too.
Not as good as the first two. The beginning was pretty good, middle was a mess, end was good except for the VERY end. To sum up the beginning (SPOILERS!!!!). Just like the other two in feel and whatnot, with a cool battle between Peter and Harry. The visuals are excellent, better than what I thought after reading some things about them. But the beginning has some flaws, imo. There was an unintentional "lol" moment when Harry was clothes lined during the battle, and almost died. Seriously, almost all the audienced laughed at this. The memory loss of Harry. Why...when someone gets knocked out, mst they loss their memory??? It seemed like they just used that out of nowhere for lack of creativity, and the way he gets it back. Ok, he saw his dad's picture when he first got back home, and didnt react much. The second time, BOOM!, he gets his memory back...err...ok. This is one thing about the film that is odd. They just throw random stuff in there to make the next scene happen with little or no explanation. Ok, and I'll include most of the Sandman as the first part of the movie. The way he becomes the Sandman, IMO, is freakin retarded. And to help his dying daughter, robs banks to get the money needed. I'm sorry, but this is very cliche, and again, lack of creativity. The first battle with the Sandman and Spidey is...ok. The visuals are very nice to look at, and the action's pretty good, but other than that, it's meh.
Second part, after he gets the black suit. Major mess for a good 30 minutes. The feel of the movie totally changes, and doesnt seem like a Spiderman Film at all, it feels like another director is in charge even. The love...square/pentagon is very, very loose. Emo Peter looks cool though, but I wanted someone to stab him in the face, hehe. Harry, after getting his memory back, plots revenge....again, to get back at Spidey. He tells Mary Jane to tell Peter she is leaving him for another man or he will die. >.< This film sucks at creativity. Well, Peter figures out that Harry has his memory back, and confronts him. This battle is MEH! Dialouge and Acting in this part of the movie is the worse by far.
End. After he gets the suit off...err...ooze? Everything kinda gets back on track, kinda. I'll just skip all the Im Sorry, Mary Jane, blah blah. We've seen this before, nothing special. Ok, VENOM IS TOO SMALL!! Sorry...had to do it. The main battle at the end of the movie is pretty good for the most part. Peter becomes friends again with Harry in order to save Mary Jane from the Sandman and Venom whom have teamed up. The visuals are very nice. However...some of the dialogue during this scene is....poor, as well as the acting, mostly from Harry. Mary Jane doesnt die dammit, but HARRY DOES! Which I actually grew to like at the end. Actually....there isnt much to say about the big battle. Not much happens..hmm..just fighting that has kinda been done already with other characters. But it was good, kinda hard to describe. The Sandman lives, Venom...and Brock die. The Sandman is cool tho, he deserved to live. Peter makes up with Mary Jane I guess (this is the ending I didnt like), he just walks up to her after attending Harry's funneral in the restarant she works in, and hugs her, then it goes off *__*. Didnt like that much.
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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I saw it twice -- at a 7 p.m. preview and the midnight show (thanks to friends). Crowd at 7 was pretty subdued, but the midnight crowd actually laughed a good chunk of it off the screen.
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Fri May 04, 2007 3:49 am |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32619 Location: the last free city
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C+
Spidey2
Spidey
Spidey3
yeah it's the suckest of the 3 films, but it did have the best ending battle. 
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insomniacdude
I just lost the game
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5868
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Extreme lack of focus throughout. None of the villains were strong (in the same sense that Ock and, hell, even the Goblin were strong). Harry had two movies to build up his character and his arc in this movie just felt so hazy. The problem is that the story itself is not that bad. Sandman, Venom, revenge, love, abandonment, etc. The movie is just a shithole job of editing. And if you didn't like the dialogue of the first two....you will be pleased to discover that they didn't learn last time.
However, what it does get right it nails. The action was impeccable (chase scene between Harry and Pete...LOVE IT), and the humor was great.
Get a better job editing. Totally rebuild the screenplay, both in terms of dialogue and structure. Get a better actor for the Sandman. Don't have Dunst sing; it looked like she was lip-syncing (which was mediocre singing at best in the first place). And more than anything, give Venom some real screentime. Out of all of the enemies in the movies so far, he's had the most potential and the least screentime. The fight scene between he and Spidey should have lasted at least as long as the fight against Doc Ock.
Overall, I'm disappointed. I was hoping to be excited for the chance to see it again this evening with some friends, but I don't want to spend $7 for that again.
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
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Venom shouldn't have been in this movie. It should have been Sandman/Harry, and then save Venom for his own film.
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Fri May 04, 2007 4:18 am |
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5578 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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Tonight ... US! wrote: the whole emo Peter thing.
this saved the movie for me. the only part of the movie I actually enjoyed was when peter strutted his new look.
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Fri May 04, 2007 4:26 am |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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Tonight ... US! wrote: The newscast during the battle royale. WHAT THE FUCK???
AHH! I was so going to mention that. That was very stupid, and out of place. It sounded very, very fake, and was not needed at all.
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Fri May 04, 2007 4:40 am |
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Mesjarch
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 5:41 am Posts: 2388 Location: Poland
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My friend got few free tickets for saturday so I will check this movie after all 
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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Y'know, in retrospect, we really clearly should've seen this coming. Maguire, Dunst, and Raimi were all clearly unenthused about the prospect of another Spider-Man film. People assumed it was juts fatigue, but I think they knew that they fucked up and fucked up bad. Comparing this to the first two Spider-Man films is useless, but it's very, very similar to many sequels. It becomes much more bloated, cheesy and ridiculous like like Rocky 3. The special effects were apparently made around the concept that mixing the visual styles of David Fincher and Robert Zemeckis could make things work. Oh yeah, and it's directed by the bastard child of George Lucas, David Goyer and Joel Schumacher. It's like Spider-Man 1 and 2 were some sort of incredible accidents where they made the characters and their arcs matter, or maybe they just got lazy and ran out of ways to make things remotely interesting without pouring gobs of bombast onto the screen. Oh god, and then there's the score, an incredibly lazy use of Elfman's old themes and beats without a hint of orginality, which in some ways is actually a good thing, considering how ghastly the scenes with original music is (the Peter vs. Harry scene in the Osbourne mansion.)
I was 9 when Godzilla came out, 10 when Episode 1 came out, so at the time I couldn't understand why people felt so betrayed. But now, NOW I can see where they were coming from. Walking out, half the audience looked depressed, and the other half seemed downright angry. I can't blame them. D
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Fri May 04, 2007 6:38 am |
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bABA
Commander and Chef
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:56 am Posts: 30505 Location: Tonight ... YOU!
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and to think ... other than bradley, the people who aren't too impressed with the spiderman franchise haven't even started reviewing this yet
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Fri May 04, 2007 6:56 am |
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Box
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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Wow. Is this the most spectacular crash and burn for a major franchise that was actually, yknow, good?
I cannot believe that SM3 will end up as bad or worse than the Star Wars prequels. What a horrible way to end the franchise (if it ends, which I assume it will after this).
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Fri May 04, 2007 7:00 am |
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JURiNG
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:45 pm Posts: 3016 Location: Cairo, Egypt
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Magnus wrote: *I still don't know how they paid 250m+ for that though. F/X were not that spectacular*
That's what I'm trying to say..
saw it again yesterday.. hoping for 'Oh wow! it's much better in the second viewing'..
but no.. it didn't happen
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Fri May 04, 2007 8:07 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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Now that's what a superhero movie is all about folks.. That was FANTASTIC.. Everything right down to the speech Aunt May gave Peter which was touching as ususal to the FX in the film which were phenomenol.. I enjoyed the intensity of Harry racing up behind Peter while on his motor scooter and slamming hi into the wall at breakneck speed was simply Awesome.. How anyone couldn't of enjoyed trhat is beyond me cause the sold out crowd I was in attendance with loved it.. I thought Topher Grace has the combination of dry wit and humor from That 70's Show and also combining the arrogance of the character Eddie Brock.. Bryce Dallas Howard??? If you were to dye her hair red, she might've been a better looking Mary Jane Watson than Kirsten Dunst is.. My impression of Gwen Stacey is that her character was a setup for the 4th movie and that's fine by me.. The Villains were also well done in that the backstory for the characters like SANDMAN was intriguing in how he became The SANDMAN and that's where the FX stood out the most.. I thought the acting was more deeper this time out and actually gave the actors range to act with the dispaly of emotion in the film.. Yes, I really could go on and on, but overall, this movie was about Revenge, Redemption and Forgiveness and all 3 of these aspects of SPIDERMAN III worked and worked well.. Oddly enough, when Harry was coming out of the chamber he uses to become New Goblin made him look oddly like Willem Dafoe and that was good for continuity purposes.. In the end, it sucxks this trilogy has come to a close and as a big fan of this comic, I can say that Sam Raimi has pitched 3 solid movies in a row and that's something we can't say about other Comicbook characters like BATMAN now can we?? At this point and after this weekend, if I were a SONY Exec, I'd be ofdfering Sam Taimi the boatload$$$ to come back as Director for the 4th movie which has been setup with Curt Connors probably being The LIZARDMAN and involving that small portion of Black Goo still in his lab..
SPIDERMAN III Receives an "A" from me on all accounts and is by far the best of the 3 movie's with SPIDERMAN II in 2nd and the original movie in 3rd.. Way to go Sam.. You've made this fan happy..
Also, I was on the radio before the movie on 550 AM KTRS on Hip On Entertainment which is from 9:00 PM-12:00AM and the host weants me to call back this Wednesday and be their Official Reviewer for the movie doing a 1 on 1 review of the movie with the Host Joe Hipperson.. It'd be an honor to review this movie on the Aire and give SPIDERMAN III it's highest accolades cause it's deserving of it as closure to a great trilogy..
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Fri May 04, 2007 9:33 am |
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14624 Location: LA / NYC
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SPIDER-MAN 3 - 9/10 (A)/ (A-)
It wasn't the all-out masterpiece that I was expecting and easily the worst of the trilogy, but I still loved it and thought it was a whole lot of fun. I can understand why people dislike it so much at the moment though - it's a bit campier than the previous two and there are a few questionable scenes (the one that comes to mind immediately is the funny but completely out of place "Spider-Man becomes 'evil' segment - I don't want to spoil it completely but it was one of the strangest things I've ever seen in a franchise like this). But it more than made up for it with many other attributes. The special effects were absolutely astonishing, and easily some of the best ever seen on screen in this day and age. I also thought that the villains in this film were great. I know a great deal of complaint has arisen over the fact that there are too many in this film, but each one serves a specific purpose and all of the actors do a great job. James Franco, who was previously quite dull in the other two films, is actually quite good here. Topher Grace is obviously having fun and makes a great villain - the Venom transformation sequence is one of the film's standout moments. And Thomas Haden Church was great - giving his character a lot of soul and allowing the audience to sympathize with him and understand the reason behind his madness. The returning protagonists were also great. Tobey Maguire probably gave his worst performance out of the three, but he still made his character lovable and interesting. Kirsten Dunst was great once again. I don't understand the negativity towards her performances in these films - she is one of the only actors involved who has stayed consistent throughout. Anyways, she gets a lot to do here and pulls it off very nicely. The chemistry between her and Maguire in the film felt like the dynamics of a real relationship. J.K. Simmons was once again hilarious and stole every scene he was in, newcomer Bryce Dallas Howard did a respectable job. The weakest link of the cast was actually a minor character - a reporter seen during the climactic battle sequence at the end who is absolutely atrocious  The film also flew by for me. I really didn't want it to end. I love all these characters though, so the dramatic moments for me are just as good as the action sequences. And the ending provided closure for almost every major character, and was also quite sad as well. A great conclusion to an excellent series. It's already very underrated. If they had cut out the two segments in question I think it really could have measured up to the first two.
Anyways, onto crowd reaction. Um, it was really mixed. There were cheers at the beginning of the film and quite often the audience was very vocal about their opinions. It really bothered me watching this film with a midnight screening audience because they absolutely refused to accept the more emotional, poignant moments. Every time a character onscreen was crying several individuals would burst out laughing. There were several more cheesy moments that also provoked laughs, but thankfully every comedic moment was a huge hit as well and had the crowd roaring (especially the Bruce Campbell cameo). There was some applause when Venom was finally introduced (he doesn't really appear until the final third of the movie). On the way out, I heard very mixed remarks. The people I was with thought that it was good for the most part, but not as good as the first two. Two of them thought it was the best of the franchise - primarily because it more fun and less serious than the previous two. Other people who I heard talking were complaining about the lack of screentime that Venom had. I think W.O.M. is going to be alright for this one, but not phenomenal like the first two. It should have no problem getting over 300 Million domestically, but I think 400 Million is a stretch at this point.
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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Absolutely abysmal, its right up there with some of the worse summer event movies I have ever seen. I'll have a review up shortly but suffice to say I want my 8 euro back.
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Fri May 04, 2007 10:15 am |
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5578 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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I'm by no means a Spidey comic bok fan so anything I know about Spider-man are from the movies and what I read on the boards. I am a movie fan. I specially love event movies. 300 for all its flaws was entertaining. Spider-man 3 not so much.
The good:
1. Sandman. Putting his actual storyline aside and the crappy ending, he actually was pretty cool to watch. Would have loved to see more of just him terrorizing NYC. 2. Black suit spidey. Loved this whole section of the movie. I was thoroughly engaged. It was like watching Superman on the red cryptonite. It's awesome to see good guys go bad. 3. Topher Grace as Eddie B. he was hot, cocky, and a great rival to Peter. 4. James Franco. same reasons as #3 and it was great to see a bad guy turn good. 5. Any scene in the newspaper. The bad: 1. Tobey. OMG! Bad acting. He gained weight and does not look fit at all. Shouldn't spiderman be a little more lean and built? 2. Kirsten/Mary Jane. ugly to look at and to hear. 3. Grandma Parker. She needs to just die already. sappy sappy sappy. 4. Venom. ok, first thing is there is no mention of his name anywhere in the movie. were it not for the internet, I would not know his name. why did Raimi feel like Topher Grace's face had to appear every other second?? can't venom be venom and stay as venom. 5. Dialogue and plots. Everything was forced. Tons of loop holes. 6. CGi. too much going on. Raimie should have done less and concentrated on making it better.
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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http://www.worldofkj.com/articleIndex.php?tid=30265
I'm going to get crucified for my opinion but fuck it the movie was bloody terrible. I hope Loyal posts a review as well so the fanboys have 2 targets to throw bricks at.
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:19 am |
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insomniacdude
I just lost the game
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5868
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Tonight ... US! wrote: It's fitting that the style of the main credits were changed for this film (I also found it offputting that they seemed to focus mostly on the first film).
The same thought crossed my mind; there were about four times as many recap shots for the first than the second. At that, I much rather would have preferred the artwork they did in the second film. That was brilliant. This was just kind of cool.
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:19 am |
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Bell
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:02 am Posts: 1906 Location: Middle Of Nowhere
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never seen Spiderman had any sidekick in the comic. and his sidekick is GOBLIN a.k.a. his arch-enemy. just can't believe that. so ridiculous.
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:51 am |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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I told myself I wouldn't read any user reviews before seeing the movie, but I'm kinda glad that I have since now my expectations are so rock-bottom I might not despise it.
At least be better than that OTHER mess of a 2007 Event Film. 
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Fri May 04, 2007 12:05 pm |
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Christian
Team Kris
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:02 pm Posts: 27584 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Positive Jon wrote: I told myself I wouldn't read any user reviews before seeing the movie, but I'm kinda glad that I have since now my expectations are so rock-bottom I might not despise it.
That is so true. I hated the first two (but found myself strangely liking them on DVD) so I might actually enjoy this one in theatres!
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Fri May 04, 2007 12:21 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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Positive Jon wrote: I told myself I wouldn't read any user reviews before seeing the movie, but I'm kinda glad that I have since now my expectations are so rock-bottom I might not despise it. At least be better than that OTHER mess of a 2007 Event Film. 
The movie kicks ass and easily the BEST in the series.. Anyone thast says otherwise I feel overanalyzed it too much oir had incredibly high expectations.. This movie reminded me of an episode of The OUTER LIMITS when it came to the black goo and the meteorite hitting and that was sort of intense seeing Peter Parker slap MJ in that Jazz club or knock her to the floor.. This movie is just getting too bad a rap which I think is more the fault of the fan than Raimi for expecting too much..
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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BKB wrote: The movie kicks ass and easily the BEST in the series.. Anyone thast says otherwise I feel overanalyzed it too much oir had incredibly high expectations.. This movie reminded me of an episode of The OUTER LIMITS when it came to the black goo and the meteorite hitting and that was sort of intense seeing Peter Parker slap MJ in that Jazz club or knock her to the floor.. This movie is just getting too bad a rap which I think is more the fault of the fan than Raimi for expecting too much..
Dude, my friend James is the dumbest, most simple-minded moviegoer in the world. His name is synonymous 'round these parts with 'philistine.' If the action moves and there are bright flashy things on screen he's generally happy.
Even HE knew this was torture.
I realize this is your message board schtick and all, but come on...give us a break.
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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I feel like starting a Goldie-esque poll.
What was the worst plot device:
A. Evil black goo from outer space coincindentally finding its way to Mr. Parker.
B. Amnesia (!)
C. The Butler. The Fucking Butler.
D. The 'Marko killed my uncle, that dirty rat" shit.
E. Mary Jane getting fired the day after opening night. It's dumb on so many levels I don't know where to begin.
And god knows how many others.
Oh, F. The Church bit. New York is even smaller than the Los Angeles of Crash!
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