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1. There were no snipers, all the cops were gone, as was the majority of the weapons.
2. It was implied during the same seen that Catwoman's heels were like knives. So whatever happened she basically stabbed him.
3. I thought it was funny that even though Catwoman knew who he was, he continued to use the voice. In fact it would have been a nice comic thing with her calling him out on that voice. The disappearing joke was my favorite part of the movie.
4. Bruce should have absolutely been able to construct some sort of grappling hook so he could get out of the pit

5. Any movie can be picked apart.

My main issue with your critique is on the ending. It's completely real. Alfred has never shown to be mentally ill. When Bruce envisioned Neeson he was in excruciating pain looking for a way to figure things out (Which he did incorrectly in assuming Bane was the child, plus it's an excuse for a cameo) But you have 3 confirmations that anyone who cared knew he was alive. Fox and the autopilot (After all Batman went to the trouble to say the auto pilot was never fixed, and if you watch it again he says the same thing with Fox on the roof and kind of smiles) Gordon gets a new bat signal from no where. He gives Selina the clean slate so him and her can start fresh together. Plus Nolan is all about themes telling some sort of message. Moving on and the idea of starting fresh are the very heart of the film so it wouldn't make sense to not have the issues resolved.

Saw it again, in English. It's true that Bane is tough to understand, especially when there's background noise or music. But most of the time it's alright.

At the end, when the woman says the name "Robin", there was chatter and people looked at each other.

lol went to a cottage over the weekend and realized this movie is unintentionally funny.

We Had Our life jackets on pretending we are Bane...

One our friends back got hurt so we started doing the chant every time he stood up.

We Were yelling like Batman whenever we needed something
"Where is the FIREWOOD!!"

lol

Cottage humor.

Cool story, bro.

Did you seriously just write that 'story'?

Lol

You Guys don't go to cottages? Really stupid crap happens...

At a cottage and 10 guys who are all drunk lol

Wierd crap can happen.

Another Funny story is when my friend sunk the canoe and my friend in the boat was drunk and yelled out Abadon Ship and he was already under water.
Then the Canoe starting sinking like the Titanic and my other friend started singing
"Near our God to Thee" (last song played on the Titanic)
We all joined in...

Good times..

Anyways my stupid point was this movie is quite easy to parody.
Batmans voice was improved from TDK but Bane's voice is just...

Bane sounds a bit stupid yes.

Though I dont get the ending and I dont want to read the whole thread so if somebody can answer

Well I guess

Well Yes..







More I think about it this film reminds of Return of the Jedi..

Flawed but it has some of the best scenes in all the films.

Very flawed film which suffers from being overly long. Yet overall its a reasonably good film for its genre and more enjoyable if you haven't watched too many trailers or read news/gossip on it in the year or two before its release (ie. Thalia exposition is more surprising this way).

I guess, no-one has yet managed to make a truly great 3rd film in a superhero franchise, though this comes closest.

Yeah it does well because it did not end up adding in to many villains (Spider man 3) or start killing off likeable characters (X3).

Christopher Nolan has.

He did a great job.


This is like ROTJ at least...
People will gripe about certain things but it has certain scenes that are the best we have seen so far.

There are more flaws in this than in TDK but as a whole I still think I love Rises more.. there's just something about Rises that connects more with me.

I saw it again today in IMAX. After seeing it in that format, there is one thing that I find to be certain: Nolan made this film specifically for IMAX. You have not seen the film until you've seen it in the format. It is a beauty to look at and listen to. I went from one of the worst experiences I've had with sound in a theater, to arguably the best I've had. I think I said before that because of the audio problems I had the first time, I only caught about half of Bane's dialog. This time around I caught every line except for one or two. I'm not sure if this was intentional on Nolan's part (I don't know how any could miss more than 70% of what Bane said in IMAX unless you just weren't listening) to make the sound mix clearer for IMAX and not for traditional theaters, or if it's just the IMAX sound system itself being so fucking good.

If you have not seen the film in IMAX yet, I can not implore you enough to go even if it's quite a drive. It's worth the time.

And as for the movie itself, any complaints I had the first time about not buying certain character motivations or that the movie had kind of a clunky pace to it, this time around I bought everything and didn't notice/care about pacing problems. The movie is 155 minutes long, but there isn't a second wasted, it's non-stop, and it's never boring.

Also better for me this time around was the ending. It's much more heartfelt than I first gave it credit for. Everything is tied up pretty much perfectly. My only small complaint is that Nolan cheats a little with the fake-out/self-sacrifice, yet he's really okay because he fixed the autopilot. There is nothing in the way the scene is edited to suggest that Batman actually escapes. We of course know he does because of the autopilot explanation that Lucious gets, but with the way Nolan cuts the scene, he's still in the plane a second before he blows up. We get a closeup of Batman, then a shot of the pod moving and then the explosion. When did he eject? Over the water? Before he flew over the bridge? Then again, does it really matter?

I think I simply connected with the characters more this time around. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises are wholly about Bruce Wayne and about his demons, and that's why they're the best "Batman" movies (TDK is the best film featuring Batman, but the movie is not really about him). His suffering that we've experienced over the three films has finally come to an end, and frankly, I'm happy that he lived. Sure it would've been more tragic (in the dramatic sense) if he had died, but what's the fun in that? He's no longer the hero Gotham that Gotham needs. He's the hero Gotham deserves. He's fucking Batman. For being so relentlessly dark for most of three movies, why doesn't he finally deserve a happy ending? And the way this movie ties back to the first one, not just with Ra's al Ghul, but with Commissioner Gordon at the end. Everyone gets the ending they deserve and as an audience, so do we. This is the perfect ending to a pretty damn near perfect trilogy.

***** (A+)

So how come you changed your mind on things not affected by IMAX (story, characters, ending)?

A better theater experience mostly. The sound quality was shit (warped) the first time I saw it, so I had a hard time connecting to anything but the action scenes. As I said before, I could only understand about half of what Bane was saying so it made crucial scenes (football speech/jail speech) a garbled mess. I could barely understand what was motivating Bane and why Gothamites would suddenly follow his will (this time I noticed that not all of them do). I didn't have that problem this time around.

I also, for some reason, didn't connect with the Alfred/Bruce relationship the first go round. I thought Alfred was gone for too much of the film to let the ending have any real impact. I found the last scene to be a little chaotic because I was trying to process what happened (Batman dying > Alfred's speech > Garbled autopilot fix that I could barely make out > Wondering if it was a dream (even if I was pretty sure it wasn't) > Processing that Nolan introduced Robin). I didn't really get everything straightened out until after the movie.

Everything this time around flowed much better for me. I don't think I mentioned it on here before, but if I did here it is again. Right after I saw the movie for the first time, although I thought it was a pretty good movie, I was a little let down. Then as I began to remember the film in hindsight (especially the ending), everything started to click for me. I think I was expecting something along the lines of The Dark Knight instead of getting a true sequel to Batman Begins. I connected much more to the Bruce Wayne arc watching it a second time and that's pretty much the key to enjoying the movie.

I think I just went in and enjoyed the movie for what it is instead of what I thought it was going to be. I was also able to properly process everything thanks to good speakers.

The IMAX really allowed me to see the film for the first time.

I also had a similar problem with The Dark Knight. The first time I saw it I was a little let down by everything except for The Joker. Then I saw it a second time (no IMAX), disagreed with much of what I had written in the review I posted on here, and loved it.

Honestly, I get the speculation on Inception's ending,. but this is as unambigious as it gets. Bruce is alive. There is absolutely no room for discussion here.

If it was just the Alfred scene it would be ambiguous. The Fox autopilot scene and the Gordon bat signal scene leave little doubt that Bruce is alive.

Question: after Bruce escapes the prison, what's the logical explanation for how he gets all the way back to Gotham? And IN Gotham? It seems like he gets back to Gotham within like a day, although I don't remember the timeline exactly. It could have been some time in between him escaping and the bomb.

Hitchhiking.

See: the third act of The English Patient.