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 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith 

What grade would you give this film?
A 54%  54%  [ 59 ]
B 27%  27%  [ 29 ]
C 6%  6%  [ 6 ]
D 6%  6%  [ 7 ]
F 7%  7%  [ 8 ]
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 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith 
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theez1 wrote:
My initial reaction is it was so much better than the first two.
I only winced at the dialogue once.
The relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin was a lot better than the last movie.
Yoda is still a scene stealer.
The ending did a good job of transitioning into A New Hope

Must sleep on it and see it again this weekend.


I can't believe how many folks take this dialogue stuff as seriously as what they do for a movie like Star Wars.. :laugh: It's really not as bad as folks make it out to be.. :-k

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Well i'm hardly as enthusiastic as some. While it was much better than the previous 2, it still didn't quite get me. There were parts where i just thought the dialgue was appalling (which i was expecting) and a couple of times i laughed out loud at how stupid it was, i won't mention which parts as i don't want to ruin it for anyone. Awful editing, was just too jumpy and never really flowed.

BUT, the effects were improved and it was entertaining, even if i didn't at any point feel emotionally involved. I wanted to to be blown away by this so much, and it just didn't happen for me. I give it a solid B-, a much improved grade from episodes I & II.

How anyone can call it a masterpiece though is beyond me, and should really have a reality check.

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Before I say my thoughts, so you all know, I've never pretended that I was the biggest Star Wars fan around. I saw the originals right before the new ones were released, about when I was eight. And at the time, I thought they were all fantastic. Looking back on them, I'd say I still think Empire Strikes Back is absolutely golden. A New Hope didn't hold up quite as well, it's a great ride and a lot of fun but not really an epic awe inspiring lifechanging expiereince. Return of the Jedi I haven't seen in over a year, but when I did I thought that the movie started off with a bang, dragged down a bit, but finished it off on a high note. All the movies really were incredibly entertaining, but none of them are all time favorites. Perhaps if I had first seen them when I was five or six like Indiana Jones and Jurrasic Park I'd have a closer bond with them, but I still really hope no one says I'm a Star Wars hater just because I think they're all high to low A- movies and incredibly entertaining. Had I seen them at the time etc and all that, sure, they had more of an impact, but I'd be lying to myself if I said I felt it myself. As for the prequels, well I thought Episode I was flawed, but still very enjoyable. However, the main thing I thought was missing was the Han Solo element. Everyone either played it straight or was far too silly (Jar Jar Binks, who I actually don't completely hate :shock: ). As for Attack of the Clones, when I first left the theater I was convinced it was better then A New Hope and on par with Return of the Jedi, and though over time I've realized it's not that good, I still hold it in very high regard. It was a big step up from The Phantom Menace, and even with people playing it too straight I felt some of the "magic" people declared was missing. So now we arrive at Revenge of the Sith, in all likeliness the very last Star Wars movie ever to be made. Perhaps it was the hype, the people declaring it to be a masterpiece, a movie that contained the best action scenes ever put on film and one that would leave every single person in the theater in tears. There was the 25 minute standing ovation at Cannes, and all that led to me being incredibly excited for this final Star Wars film.

Well, the movie for me was really good. Like every other Star Wars movie, I didn't completely love it and it hasn't nor will it change my life, but it delivered and did so well. However, there are still a number of flaws which I think prevented it from beign the masterpiece I was hoping for. I'll get straight to the element that most hurt the film for me, and that was the conflict of it's central character, Anakin Skywalker. Though Hayden Christenson has worked on the role since Attack of the Clones, I thought it was utterly inconceivable how he so easily turned evil. He seemed to know that even if it meant Padme could live, that the dark side was evil and Palpatine was up to no good. In fact, the first thing he does after he discovers Palpatine is a Sith Lord is going to report this to Mace Windu, whom his relationship with is antagonistic. But 30 minutes later, he accidentally wounds him, and that seems to be all it takes for him to become Darth Vader. How could anyone so easily be swayed to kill all of his allies and friends, especially by someone he didn't seem to trust. It really made him come off as weak and dramatic, which is certainly not what I imagined Darth Vader as when I heard James Earl Jones booming voice. Say what you will about the original trilogy, Darth Vader is a classic cinematic villian, and I think that the entire prequels primary flaw is portraying him as a sympathetic hero. It's like making a film about Hitler as a sad, misunderstood young man who was led down the wrong path by deception. Vader jsut seemed liek such a powerful character, to see that he only became who he was from being tricked and becoming a whiny power hungry brat just broke my heart. While the final 40 minutes of the movie had absolutely terrific action scenes, I also got very tired of some of the other action scenes. None of the effects in Attack of the Clones bothered me, but here the nevendind amount of completely computer generated battles just took me completely out of the film. For all the hype, the huge opening action scene may be the weakest of the entire film. A lot of this could have been from not having any of John Williams terrific score in the scenes. Just having the muted effects made me feel like I was watching a video game, a complaint which I very rarely make. Though Revenge of the Sith did get progressively better, some of the early dialogue between Portman and Christenson was just as stilted as ever. There whole "I love you more." bit was just way too much work to take seriously, and I could tell by the audiences snickering I wasn't alone. While The Emperor was a fantastic villian, General Grevious was a joke. He was completely underdeveloped and almost seemed like some sort of joke. The action scene with him and Obi Wan almost made up for this, but I still couldn't see much any purpose for his being in the film. Lastly, c'mon Mr. Jackson, I thought you said you "weren't going to die like a punk", but your death was probably the most pitiful of the entire series.
Now I know I may have just unleashed a massive rant, but I still really did like the movie. Ewan McGregor was his usual great self, and Ian McDiarmid really did do a great job of biting into the material with everything he could. Natalie Portman also struck me as much improved from the previous two movies, and I didn't even think she was that bad in Attack of the Clones. As said, the film got progressively better, to the point that I'd say most of the final 30-40 minutes are some of the best in all of the Star Wars series. The action scenes were terrific, and if it weren't for the fact there was no reason for Anakin to have a complete personality makeover in a matter of hours I'd have completely bought every character devleopment (though the entire "She lost the will to live" part was definitely laziness on the script's behalf). And as much as Lucas really didn't have a reason for putting it there, the stab at our current president and his administration was both obvious and something that got a guilty but still big grin on my face.
Certainly, it's an uneven movie, maybe even moreso then Attack of the Clones. However, when it works, it does so with a huge amount of energy and passion that is hard to not admire. In this way, I was reminded of Return of the King. While I was much fonder of that movie (and I grew up on the Lord of the Rings series far less then I did on Star Wars, having only read the books shortly before the movies came out), it started off weakly before pulling itself together. By the end though, the damage was done and both of these came off as the most uneven of there respective series, though I would say that they were both considerably better then at least one of the other movies in there trilogy (The Two Towers and Phantom Menace respectively). If this review is poorly put together or has large chunks of area which don't connect, my apologies, I'm the one idiot who didn't go to bed immediately after the movie, which I can already see was a big mistake. However, I'd still say that the movie is a solid B+. Just like five out of the six Star Wars movies, it is very well done entertainment, but for me it also fails at being a mindblowing classic.


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I must also add that while the lightsaber fights at the end were amazing, the lightsaber that was getting the most amount of action during the movie was residing in my pants!


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****/*****


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I really enjoy it (much more than the first two). Though, I was a bit confused in first half of movie like who is this guy, who is that etc. (I'm not SW fan AT ALL, however). So, I think it's not movie's fault, but mine.

Besides that, it has everything you could expect from Star Wars and much more. I went to see this movie with my dad (one of SW big fan, I think :wink: ), he was totally stunned in everything in movie.

What made the movie IMO, however, is the conclusion (last 30 minutes, I assume) which is so powerful. It was so perfect set-up for OT.

SW fans (like my dad) will absolutely love it. Those who aren't (like myself), well, will at least enjoy it.

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revolutions wrote:
13 more hours and i will ;)


Okey having finally seen it \:D/ (midnight & i'm soo tired atm) i give this one an A. :D
Much,much better acting by the cast this time around, especially Natalie. ;) It's as if she gave a fuck.
Yoda was much better in this one then the last episode. I enjoyed every minute he was on screen.
By far the best performance was Darth Sidious :twisted: that evil sob. When i grow up i want to be just like him, cept
not as ugly. ;) lol The actions, the duels, :cool: Windu going out in glory, :D i freaking enjoyed all of IT! it's by far the 3rd best star wars movie :) behind ANH & ESB. GREAT JOB LUCAS & THANKS!

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13 more hours and i will ;)


Okey having finally seen it \:D/ (midnight & i'm soo tired atm) i give this one an A. :D
Much,much better acting by the cast this time around, especially Natalie. ;) It's as if she gave a fuck.
Yoda was much better in this one then the last episode. I enjoyed every minute he was on screen.
By far the best performance was Darth Sidious :twisted: that evil sob. When i grow up i want to be just like him, cept
not as ugly. ;) lol The actions, the duels, :cool: Windu going out in glory, :D i freaking enjoyed all of IT! it's by far the 3rd best star wars movie :) behind ANH & ESB. GREAT JOB LUCAS & THANKS!


quite right. I think one of the biggest issues with AOTC was that the performance looked bad due to a terrible dialogue and just ... inappropriate acting being required from the actors at the wrong time (case in point: Anakin and Padme telling each other they love each other. It came out of the blue).

This one was the same but the slight improvement in dialogue and some better judgement of what needs to be acted out when shows that these actors were always doing a reasonable job.


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Current status: Disappointed.

The good:

- I really felt that the three leads (Christensen, McGreggor and Portman) hit there stride here. I felt a real emotional connection between them. The dialog is up to Star Wars standards, one clunky line really stood out but really not that bad.
- The Mustafar sequence pretty much met my every expectation.
- The sequences with Obi-Wan on Uptau (sorry spelling) were also equally well staged, as was his duel with Grievous.
- Best plot line of all 6 Star Wars
- Anakin's fall to the dark side made believable.
- The execution of Order 66 is really sad... watching the Masters get cut down on the various worlds.
- The scene where Anakin is thinking about rescuing Palpatine and he and Padme are looking across the buildings of Coruscant to the buildings that the others were in was a great, great scene.

The bad

- Battle droids should not talk. And when they do, they should say something robotic... not act like "Playskool's My First Battle Droid".
- R2-D2 is like a completely different machine in this one. He's funny and does cool things, but like everything else, he becomes part of the CG missmash.
- C3P0 has been undercut by the prequels and is again here.
- The Wookie sequences are a waste of time.
- Grievous' cough.
- Some of the voice over work, of special note is that horrible Nemodian on The Invisible Hand.
- So much intercutting and wipes, every 2 seconds we're on another planet and somethign else is happening
- While Ian plays Palpatine extremely well, the cackling, vampiric Emperor is unevenly played throughout the movie and produces some... sound effects, that made me wince during the important show down with Windu and Yoda.
- The Mustafar sequence is NOT uncut and is interjected with the much less important Yoda/Emperor duel, which takes focus away from the Mustafar sequence.
- "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
- Padme birth/death scene is killed a bit by the stupid background droid making pathetic noises.

So it's not the major things that took me out of the movie, it's all the little minor screen added things.

So my honest reaction afterwards was disappointment. I'm not mad or feel no need to be agressive about it. I was surprised how indifferent I ended up being towards it.


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Very entertaining movie. The only thing that bothered me was how 'fast' Anaking got super-hyper bad.

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Andrew wrote:
Well i'm hardly as enthusiastic as some. While it was much better than the previous 2, it still didn't quite get me. There were parts where i just thought the dialgue was appalling (which i was expecting) and a couple of times i laughed out loud at how stupid it was, i won't mention which parts as i don't want to ruin it for anyone. Awful editing, was just too jumpy and never really flowed.

BUT, the effects were improved and it was entertaining, even if i didn't at any point feel emotionally involved. I wanted to to be blown away by this so much, and it just didn't happen for me. I give it a solid B-, a much improved grade from episodes I & II.

How anyone can call it a masterpiece though is beyond me, and should really have a reality check.

Dito. It never really managed to blow me away or get me emotionally attached. Titanic in space? Amazing? Masterpiece? Not by a long shot. Having said that, it is quite an improvement over the previous two instalments and all in all a good SW movie. B

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Star Wars Return of the Sith is one of those rare movies that is not just a film, it's not just a story, but it is an experience. It's sometimes hard to put into words what these films mean to me and many others. They represent my youth, my passion and everything that I love about film. They take you away to that galaxy far far away, a long time ago. This is nothing short of perfection and not just in ways that are visual, or emotional. This is the epitome of perfection in every sense of the word. It ties everything together, it furthers the story and bridges the gap between the old trilogy and the new one. As Star Wars fans, we have always wanted to know what it is that turned Anakin Skywalker from the promising young jedi into the most evil man in the universe. You meet this cloked figure in black in ANH and are right away struck by his anger, his power and his pain. There must be pain behind someone who can destroy planets, kill at will and torture for convenience. Where did that pain come from, and what drives him to his insatiable desire for absolute power?

All of your questions are answered here. You can see once and for all that Vader/Anakin is one of the most tortured souls in the universe. Knowing that you are poweful, knowing that you have a gift that some just can't appreciate and many don't trust, that can be painful. Seeing what you can see, knowing things ahead of time but yet are seemingly powerless to do anything about it. Darth Vader was born out of pain. He was born not out of a lust for power, but out of the need to save the one he loved. Darth Vader's power comes from hatred, sure, but the genesis of his transformation to the dark side was sealed when he wanted save the one she loved.

If Menace and Clones were disappointing to many, this will make them feel more like you are watching a film from 1980. Yoda is omnipresent in Sith, so Anakin and so is Kenobi. You also have a cameo by Chewbaca and the jedis have enough lightsabre duals to satisfy anyones lust for more of what the OT gave us.

But what seperates this film from perhaps any in the series is the emotion felt in this film. You witness the annhilation of a race of people, you see young children wiped out by someone they trust, you have two seemingly beloved brothers dualing to the death and you see two masters of different religions battling it out to the end, once and for all. There is nothing that this film doesn't cover and there is nothing that this film does not improve on from the first two in the new trilogy. The acting is very well done, especially from Hayden Christnesen and Ian McDiarmid. Yoda is very well done as well and of course Natalie Portman and Ewan McGregor hit their mark just like they always have. The dialogue in the film, perhaps in the love scenes is still a little sappy, bit it is just right enough to understand Anakin's descent into the darkside. And this is where the film exceeds all expectations. The path to the dark side is a treacherous one, and Anakin tries to fight it, valliantly, but comes up very short. To say he is seduced by the dark side is like saying Rambo was a good soldier, it is an understatement. And his descention into the dark corner known as the dark side of the force is final, it is unfortunate and it is frightening. You can see him fighting it every step of the way, but like Luke in Jedi, wanting to strike down the emperor with his sabre, it is futile. There is just too much that the dark side can offer him, too much that the dark side can trust him with and too much that the dark side can become. Being a jedi is altruistic, being a Sith Lord is all about what is best for you, and only you. Anakin's slow but perpetual descent to the dark side in SITH is the best part of the film. He resists it for as long as he can until one fateful moment when he helps Palpatine out of certain death. And once he crossed that shady area, once he killed without a purpose other than what serves him and only him, he was lost and had now turned to the dark side. The rest was inevitable.

Which brings us to the last half hour of the film. I can't describe the intensity and the brilliance of the film. You pit two brothers against one another and two legendary warriors in some of the best visuals since the final battle in Jedi where there 4 different story lines going on at once. Anakin and Obi Wan's lava battle is heartbreaking. By this time Anakin has now fully turned. He is not the master just yet, but he is clearly a better raw jedi than Obi Wan, but as Darth says to Luke in Empire, he is not a jedi yet. Their epic battle amonst flowing lava and red rocks is beautiful to see. The tragedy of watching it is another thing. And then to finally see what happens to Anakin is tragic. More intense yet, is to see how Obi Wan handles it, is actually quite shocking. This is one of the most emotional times in the film. Anakin did it to himself, but to see his fate, no matter how evil of a person you are, you wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Revenge of the Sith is just a marvelous film from beginning to end, in every facet, from the excellent acting, the keen direction, to the tight and taut script and to the breakneck pace editting. To put together three or four story lines at once and captivate the audience at every turn is not easy. But not only does Lucas do it, he exceeds. If there was one word to describe this film, it is masterpiece. Empire is still the best of the series, but to rank the others, you'd have to put this one second...only slightly ahead of ANH. This is everything I had hoped for and more. It bridges the gap and makes you want to go home and watch ANH which I did when I arrived home from the theater. For all of the SW nuts that were disappointed with the two new ones, this is George's vindication. This is his opera, this is his opus to SW fans. He has done it, and he has exceeded far beyond my expectations. To see the six films in the chronological order is a thing of beauty. To remember them for what they stand for is enlightening. SW has changed my life, and even if it doesn't quite do that for some, it is at least is as entertaining as they come.

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Awesome, awesome. I'd have to let the dust settle I guess, but right now I'd say it was the best Star Wars movie.

A. I adored it!

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Think this is my favorite movie of all time.

10/10, A+, 100%,...whatever.


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Gen Grievous coughs and walks odd because Master Windu handed him his ass, crushing his midsection after he captured the Supreme Chancellor in the Clone Wars cartoon series.

My thoughts haven't changed since watching Sith last week. I can finally talk about spoilers and say I didn't like the Frankenstein moment for Vader, the wookie's Tarzan yell, and the way Troopers screamed when they died.

I'll just repost my review from 5/12/05

Sith Happens

Star Wars means different things to different people. For some, it's an inescapable phenomenon. For more than a few, it's a religion. A way of life. I've always felt a special kinship with Star Wars. We both came into the world in 1977, only a few months apart. My earliest memories are of playing "hide the wookie." Wait, who am I kidding here? No one cares for my sappy back story. Why does every review for Revenge of the Sith have to start with "How Star Wars influenced my life." Let's cut to the chase shall we. Let's answer the million dollar question. Is Sith a fitting conclusion to cinema's foremost franchise?

The answer is a resounding "yes." Revenge of the Sith opens unlike any other Star Wars film. We're thrust, quite brilliantly into the closing moments of the often discussed but never seen fabled Clone Wars ( this is until Cartoon Network's animated series came long). Opening Sith at the end of the Clone Wars at first glance is an odd decision. But having seen it executed, it's a flawless and technically daring sequence. You'll see things that are wildly unexpected during the opening minutes, including why R2-D2 is such a interesting character. We also learn in a short amount of time, how Anakin Skywalker's (Hayden Christensen) and Obi-Wan Kenobi's (Ewan McGregor) relationship has grown in the year's since Attack of the Clones. We get our first look at the newest villain General Grevious. And after one of the more thrilling lightsaber duels in Sith, we get to see Chancellor Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) put into motion a series of events that will bring about the fall of both the Republic and the Jedi. Special mention needs to be made of McDiarmid who creates a cunning and ruthless villain. Sometimes great acting is lost amid the greenscreen forest but no such problem with McDiarmid.

A key to Revenge of the Sith's success lies in Lucas' storytelling ability. This film, unlike others, never stops. It doesn't feel the need to catch us up. Instead, it's constantly adding layer after layer until you feel as though your heart will explode from exhaustion. There are moments of political maneuvering that will give some viewers an awful sense of The Phantom Menace deja vu. And the relationship between Anakin and Padmé (a glowing Natalie Portman) hasn't developed much beyond soap opera fawning. But really, in a such a technically dazzling and thoroughly entertaining film, those are minor issues.

You can best sum up Revenge of the Sith in the scene where Master Jedi Mace Windu (Samuel L Jackson still channeling Shaft) assembles a team to confront Chancellor Palpatine. Not to give anything away that hasn't been shown in the trailers but the meeting does not turn out well for Windu and this team. It will remain for me one the most powerful scenes I've ever witnessed. The fact that the audience will plead and scream for things to not happen during this scene is a great testament to Lucas' film. Everyone knows what will happen to Anakin yet are still emotionally vested in his transformation. It is truly remarkable.

Things go from bad to worst for the Jedi shortly thereafter and for a film going at breakneck speeds, it still somehow manages to hit hyperdrive. From the wookies at war, to Yoda's confrontation with the Emperor that ends with a very sad realization, you'll see things that while exciting to look at, are just as fulfilling emotionally. It's a tone seldomly struck within the genre and Sith has in one masterful stroke, placed itself towards the top of the food chain. Not that Revenge of the Sith is without its share of problems. There are some ackward editing decisions including Darth Vader's reveal and several audio keys that will either have you laughing or rolling your eyes or both (girlie screams and Tarzan yells). But again, like dialogue issues, these aren't something to undo a film if everything else manages to be hit out of the park.

Much has been made out of how "dark" Sith is, it's the first Star Wars film to receive a PG-13 rating. I assume the rating has more to do with the tone of the film than actual visuals. What happens to Anakin following his lighsaber duel with Obi-Wan is graphic and alone worthy of the rating. But throughout the film, underlying themes of evil and its corrupt nature are also present which makes Sith a more adult Star Wars film.

So there you have it. Lucas has created a great Star Wars film. Will it undo the years of hate and anger towards Lucas and his production team for the supposed failings of the first two prequels? Who knows and really who cares. Stand it alone and Revenge of the Sith is an extremely well-made fantasy/sci-fi film. Compare it to the other films in the series, and you have a more mature look at the Star Wars universe. Some fans will love it, others may not. I for one could not have dreamed of a more fitting conclusion of the prequel trilogy. Or should I say the beginning of the original trilogy. Lucas should be commended for bringing to life a film franchise unlike any other that first began a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.


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you know loyal.

the connection to clone wars pissed me off a little bit.


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
I can finally talk about spoilers and say I didn't like the Frankenstein moment for Vader, the wookie's Tarzan yell, and the way Troopers screamed when they died.


Must say that first two things bugged me as well, slightly. Vader's 'Noooo' in particular. Can't remember now Trooper's screams...


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you know loyal.

the connection to clone wars pissed me off a little bit.


Grevious or another connection? He's a completely different warrior in Sith, going from fighting 5 Jedis at once to barely keeping Obi-Wan at bay. I like the other Grevious. Damn you Master Windu. :razz:

@ Nebs, the Troopers had girlie screams in moments of peril, like the Luke scream from Empire.


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
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you know loyal.

the connection to clone wars pissed me off a little bit.


Grevious or another connection? He's a completely different warrior in Sith, going from fighting 5 Jedis at once to barely keeping Obi-Wan at bay. I like the other Grevious. Damn you Master Windu. :razz:

@ Nebs, the Troopers had girlie screams in moments of peril, like the Luke scream from Empire.


yup .. greivous. that was the battle actually i was looking most forward to. And it turneed out to be the biggest disappointment.


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Zingaling wrote:

How many times have you seen it so far, StarWars? :razz:

Oh, and with all these short, mini-reviews... I'm getting too excited. =D>
Three times! I am going back in 3 hours to see it one more! I will see it 3 more times today!


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How many times have you seen it so far, StarWars? :razz:

Oh, and with all these short, mini-reviews... I'm getting too excited. =D>
Three times! I am going back in 3 hours to see it one more! I will see it 3 more times today!


Are u saying by end of today that you'll have seen it 6 times? O_o

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I've never seen a movie twice in theater, but I'm craving to see this one again...and again.

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Actually I did. The OT 1997 versions.


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Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

Episode III is the type of movie that makes standing outside the theatre for 4 hours in the cold seem worth it. It is the type of movie that makes experiencing a delay of 45 minutes before the start of the movie worth it. It is the type of movie that makes sleeping only an hour and a half and then rushing off to your 8 to 5 job worth it. I'm sure you've guessed by now that I consider Episode III a satisfactory conclusion to the prequels.

From the get go, one can feel the tension in the air. The movie prances on, not stopping for even a moment to take a small breather. A sense of urgency exists which is not surprising. War has a tendency to creating such an atmosphere. Characters behave 'uncharacteristically', sides are swapped, actions and words are looked upon with a sense of distrust; and one can only wait and watch in anticipation for the characters to confront each other face to face, igniting the fire we have all come to see.

It is surprising to note how seamlessly Lucas has integrated the last moments of the animated feature "Clone Wars" to the beginning of this film; the surprising part being that those who have seen the animated masterpiece will easily relate to it while those who have next to no knowledge of it won't miss a thing at all. After a quick battle in space, we see our 2 favorite Jedis, Obi Wan and Anakin as well as R2D2 attempt a daring rescue of Chancellor Palpatine, who as we are informed, is held hostage by Count Dooku and General Grievous. The audience is gifted with the first major light saber duel right away, much to their delight, in between amusing bouts between R2D2 and android robots. The entire purpose seems to be to give the audience a quick adrenaline rush at from the start and give them a feel of how the rest of the movie will play out.

In my opinion, it probably did not achieve its purpose. I was neither blown away, or felt any kind of emotional attachment to these first few scenes, spawning a fear in my mind that this just might leave me feeling a bit under whelmed. The major problem here is how quickly scenes moved from one to the other, without a proper beginning at times and an abrupt end when not expected. This trend continues for the first half of the movie, and leaves a sense of rush that the movie could have done without.

Thankfully though, once the stage was set, Lucas spends more time developing each scene, giving more and more richness to the story as well as the characters. Most people already know how everything will end but to finally see how it happens and what causes them once again brings out Lucas' primary strength; the genius of his story telling. Lucas not only provides us with an excellent plot but takes us step by step, showing us the downfall of Anakin, the Jedi council and the brilliance of the one sith lord that masterminds the entire operation. While Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones may not be considered highlights in the Star Wars saga, one can still give Lucas credit for providing great stories. This time round though, he outdoes himself. If it wasn't for the fact that the first part of the movie felt rush, and Star Wars' characteristic much improved yet still mediocre dialogues, Episode III could have been classified in a league of its own. There are unnecessary scenes thrown in too, like the battle with the wookies for no reason other than to create a level of nostalgia among the audience. It's is a tactic Lucas uses often in the film, one that felt like a bit of a let down. While our anticipation of seeing Darth Vader and Chewbacca are high, they ultimately feel like token scenes thrown in to make us all feel just a bit happier, without actually contributing much. While taking out Vader from the movie is out of the question, even from a story point of view, one could have done a better job of the 60 or so seconds that were devoted to him.

The actors put in a fine performance, especially Ian Mcdiarmid who plays the sith lord. This time round, the actors had better dialogue to work with and much more appropriate scenes to deliver them in, reducing the absurdity of their characters in situations that were quite evident in episode I and II. Hayden Christensin play the fall of Anakin to Darth Vader to perfection. The only problem here was General Grievous, who comes off as some underpowered half man half droid, not intelligent or strong enough to hold his own. This will especially be disappointing for Clone Wars fans, who probably did not walk in with expectations but had assumed right off the bat to see a real bad ass at work here. Yet, his final confrontation turned out to be the most disappointing part of the movie and one can owe it to the change in attitude and skill displayed here as opposed to the animated series.

The most important thing about Episode III is how emotionally it engages you during the latter part. Watching the sith plans unfold and seeing our characters meet their unhappy endings is touching. This is the beauty of the movie though. Episode III completely relies on the fact that the audience knows what will happen, yet wish for it not to. It's success was always based upon hitting the right nerve that would ignite the feelings many have harbored since childhood when we all watched the original trilogy. The most powerful moment comes in the form of the much talked about yet never seen before showdown between the master Obi Wan, and his apprentice Anakin. The entire scene is engulfed in emotions and for those familiar with the saga, will not be able to engage it without making an emotional investment in it. Must like this heart wrenching battle, another simultaneous duel takes place between the 2 big guns, Yoda (who will far exceed any expectations you had off him) and our soon to be Sith emperor. Watching Yoda fail in his quest is the final realization fans of the series need to finally stop denying what they know is inevitable. Yoda's failure, at once brings us back to reality that the Jedi were never destined to win this battle and our praying and hoping will change none of that. The look on Yoda's face itself symbolizes that.

All in all, Revenge of the Sith achieves the purpose it was set out for. It forms the most integral part of this 6 part series that joins the 2 trilogies together. The movie is from nowhere, a masterpiece, which is sad because it could have been one. While Lucas has done a great job in fixing some of the problems from Episode I and II, we are left with all those minor details that people forgot to take into consideration. How does one ignore the annoying droid robots and their senseless comments? How does one justify a couple of very important events where less than satisfactory explanations were given? These are all very minor details, to the point of nitpicking yet sadly, they are littered throughout the movie and thus become hard to ignore.

But one should learn to look past them. Episode III is a worthy addition to the saga and we can only wish that Lucas does not end it here. I will look forward to seeing the words "Once upon a time, in a galaxy far far away" on the big screen again, and I'm sure a lot of people will agree with me.

Grade: A-


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9/10. I liked it very much and its finally the thing I already wanted in EP1.
Some stuff killed a higher grade.

-Funny R2-D2 wtf
- Warfare killer robots that talk like toys for little children
- Lovescenes are not so the thing of Lucas


But the rest is really good. Besides I saw it in a cinema with digital projector and the look of the movie is superb. As for visuals. The CGI stuff was exremely well done.


And btw: Ian McDiarmid as Emperor simply rocks.

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revolutions wrote:
Star Wars wrote:
Zingaling wrote:

How many times have you seen it so far, StarWars? :razz:

Oh, and with all these short, mini-reviews... I'm getting too excited. =D>
Three times! I am going back in 3 hours to see it one more! I will see it 3 more times today!


Are u saying by end of today that you'll have seen it 6 times? O_o


Yup. I plan to see it 17 times this weekend as well. So by the end of 4 days I will se it 23 times. I am also going to write a full review as well telling why I like this film!


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