I thought they did end up destroying it again. But it was pretty bleh when it happened. None of the destruction outside of the moon base was that interesting. Hell I don't think a single sequence here even was close to even the secondary "Smith chase" scene in the first. And the comic relief is awful. Whoever that Floyd guy was terrible. It's like they tried to do what Jake Johnson actually did well in JW, and this guy was just awful in every scene.

That's faint praise, like I prefer really shitty cereal over the store brand cereal version of it.

He is only in the film to introduce more Chinese elements into it. But you're right. He was terrible. As was Maika Monroe, Jeff Golfblum, Liam Hemsworth, Vivica Fox, Brent Spiner, Bill Pullman, Angelababy, and Jessie Usher. And what the fuck was Charlotte Gainsbourg doing in the film?!

This film is such a fucking joke.

Also what happened to JG's wife from the first? They reconciled in the end. She hasn't done anything. They don't even make a reference to it.

Also creepy CGI Robert Loggia cameo?

I've never seen a film that could have had potential make so many bad decisions.

But at the same time I don't think it was that bad. It has some really great special effects and half the time the humor and the drama did hit the right mark, just unfortunate for the other half.

With a movie like Independence Day: Resurgence, ie: one that is merely good, there is a predictable pattern of response.

Those who see it in preview or opening day, before the groupthink** trend to love or hate it has been established, either write their honest opinion or hedge their bets by writing a review that can be later interpreted as positive or negative.

However by Sunday of opening weekend, after most of the professional reviews are in and the box office trajectory is confirmed, the trend-riders come out and the piling-on begins.

After you recognize this phenomena, it becomes easy to spot. Combat groupthink. Watch for it. Point it out.


(**Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.)

Ha. I saw it on Saturday in China, Bradley sweetheart, which is Friday night in the US, and I hated it. Not to mention that I don't check numbers until Monday morning, and you should know that I am one of the least groupthink-y people on these boards. So your calm your bullshit.

WTF? Who are you, the reincarnation of Bradley Witherberry? Get outta here with that "groupthink" hand-wringing. This movie is awful and I gladly stand by that opinion.

I love how bothered people got over his post. LOL.

Immensely bothered. I didn't sleep a wink last night!

That post from tree is incorrect in its interpretation.

This was fucking atrocious. From the awful acting to the boring, monotone action sequences it was just an all around misfire IMO. The only good thing I can say about it is it's nice seeing Goldblum in a blockbuster again, even though he's definitely playing a parody of himself and not his character from the first movie. Also, wtf was up with all the ridiculous, cringe worthy Chinese pandering and that really bizarre Robert Loggia cameo ?

Surely you know why they did it. But I agree, it was horrible. Shoehorned in and shameless.

I honestly have no idea why they did it. I think the worst thing is I have a much better sequel just thinking of it off the top of my head, and after 11 writers they came up with this.

You post on a movie forum with a primary focus on box office.

Why would a film pander to the Chinese?...

The script really is bad, and a lot of that has to do with that I think they had too many ideas. For sure the first sequel script couldn't have a Female Chinese pilot, and Chinese Moon Commander. But once they put that in there, they had to re-write a whole lot of other stuff again.
I do like how they wrote in all the old characters, but we really needed more Goldblum. He should have been the star really, and not Hemsworth or Smith's son. I have a feeling they actually never even really wanted Goldblum, but as part of some kind of fan service kept him in anyway.
The most useless part of the film for me, was the kids driving in the station wagon story. I liked all of the Goldblum dad's inclusions, but those kids were so unnecessary. Such lack of creativity.
The school bus on the other hand I liked again.

The script is awful, but it is in-keeping with the first. The fact that two days after the arrival of the aliens they are defeated goes a long way to minimalising them as a threat and lowering the magnitude of the attack. And then Goldblum says something like "I don't think we could survive a third attack". Considering whenever these aliens come here they are defeated quick-sharp, I'd have to disagree with Goldblum.

This was atrocious. Understand the muted push, wow.

This might be the first blockbuster I have ever given an F too. I mean when a movie makes you feel depressed by the shear amount of stupid, offensive, nonsensical shit thrown in it you can't really be forgiving. This is way beyond inept/lazy film making IMO as it was such an unpleasant, grueling experience to sit through.

Atrocious movies haven't make big money before? Also this isn't THAT awful to have been thrown in garbage like how Fox treated it.

Considering the votes it received in the poll at the top so far, we can say it's about average. I wonder who gave it an A though.

Bradley Witherberry (tree and a half).

It's a pretty bad movie that's somewhat entertaining. The script is terrible. Nearly all attempts at humor are cringe-inducingly bad. It's all really cheesy. But like I said, it wasn't super boring so that's a plus. I'd give it a C-.

I thought it was that awful.

Wow bradley did a good job disguising his identity for 7 months!