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Bradley Witherberry
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 Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
The Wolf Of Wall Street is impeccably crafted as you would expect and it was sporadically hilarious as you might not.
However, it still ends up being a rather long slog to watch this life of a salesman.
I'm glad I saw it, but I'll never watch it again.
4 out of 5.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:40 am |
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movies35
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 pm Posts: 8627 Location: Syracuse, NY
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This was a great movie. I didn't really have many expectations for it but it blew me away. DiCaprio is just fantastic here. He may give his best performance ever (though between this and Revolutionary Road it's close) and the fact he may yet again miss out on an Oscar nomination is ridiculous. He fully embodies himself to this character. Jordan should be a completely unsympathetic prick, yet he really isn't. There are moments where you realize he is just addicted and in the end really just needs help. He isn't a bad guy, he was just making a boatload of bad choices. Jonah Hill and Margot Robbie were also both fantastic. As for the three hour running time, I don't think it felt bloated at all. It flew by for me. It's incredibly engrossing, funny and entertaining. Don't miss it. It's one of the best movies of the year.
10/10
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:07 am |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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I never felt much sympathy for Jordan. I do not believe this is intended as an addiction/recovery story, either. Notice with how much playful self-satisfaction he describes his "hard time" in prison, represented by a scene of him playing tennis with a few other inmates on a private court.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:22 am |
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movies35
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 pm Posts: 8627 Location: Syracuse, NY
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I totally think he is supposed to be sympathetic. From his scene in London with Emma, to the final sex scene with his wife, to him writing the note for Jonah Hill's character for him not to be caught.
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:31 am |
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El Maskado
Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh!
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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movies35 wrote: This was a great movie. I didn't really have many expectations for it but it blew me away. DiCaprio is just fantastic here. He may give his best performance ever (though between this and Revolutionary Road it's close) and the fact he may yet again miss out on an Oscar nomination is ridiculous. He fully embodies himself to this character. Jordan should be a completely unsympathetic prick, yet he really isn't. There are moments where you realize he is just addicted and in the end really just needs help. He isn't a bad guy, he was just making a boatload of bad choices. Jonah Hill and Margot Robbie were also both fantastic. As for the three hour running time, I don't think it felt bloated at all. It flew by for me. It's incredibly engrossing, funny and entertaining. Don't miss it. It's one of the best movies of the year.
10/10 Scamming people out of their money by misleading them doesn't make them a bad guy?
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:19 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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movies35 wrote: to the final sex scene with his wife Right before he punches her? 
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Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:39 pm |
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movies35
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 pm Posts: 8627 Location: Syracuse, NY
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El Maskado wrote: movies35 wrote: This was a great movie. I didn't really have many expectations for it but it blew me away. DiCaprio is just fantastic here. He may give his best performance ever (though between this and Revolutionary Road it's close) and the fact he may yet again miss out on an Oscar nomination is ridiculous. He fully embodies himself to this character. Jordan should be a completely unsympathetic prick, yet he really isn't. There are moments where you realize he is just addicted and in the end really just needs help. He isn't a bad guy, he was just making a boatload of bad choices. Jonah Hill and Margot Robbie were also both fantastic. As for the three hour running time, I don't think it felt bloated at all. It flew by for me. It's incredibly engrossing, funny and entertaining. Don't miss it. It's one of the best movies of the year.
10/10 Scamming people out of their money by misleading them doesn't make them a bad guy? You can tell from his first day of work he is a good guy, the world has changed him drastically, obviously. I think he was trying to change and he was just addicted.
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Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:19 am |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Scorsese offsets The Wolf of Wall Street's bloated 3-hour running time with a film that is a beautiful, often glorious mess. There's so much going on here and the energy level is so consistently high that it's practically impossible to be bored. The characters are all despicable and occasionally even disgusting, yet the film manages to be totally hilarious. This was probably the hardest I've laughed at a film all year (oh my holy hell, the Quaaludes scene! dead dead dead). In one of his best performances ever, Leonardo DiCaprio is sensational and it will be a travesty if he's not nominated for an Oscar. He's so live-wired, energetic, charismatic and funny that it's not only easy to see why Jordan Belfort basically became a god to most of these people but it also reminds us yet again of his range as an actor. He's ably supported by Jonah Hill, whose largely odious character typifies the film's basic message. In another stellar supporting performance, the gorgeous Margot Robbie shines as a Long Island trophy wife (she should be in the Oscar conversation too but it probably won't happen). Did this need to be 3 hours? No, probably not. But I guess it makes sense if you're going to make a movie about depravity and excess, you provide a running time of excess. A-
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Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:35 pm |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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P.S. the guy who introduces DiCaprio in the very last scene is the real Jordan Belfort.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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movies35 wrote: He fully embodies himself to this character. Jordan should be a completely unsympathetic prick, yet he really isn't. There are moments where you realize he is just addicted and in the end really just needs help. He isn't a bad guy, he was just making a boatload of bad choices. Holy shit, no. He's pond scum from the beginning. It's even in the text. And if it wasn't apparent from the beginning, how about when he slaps and then punches his wife BEFORE breaking his two year sobriety by snorting a pile of cocaine? The drugs just heighten how much of a shithead he is. And he still is at the end ("Sell me this pen."). What we do agree on, more importantly though, is how great the film is. This was awesome. It's Scarface with stocks. It's also, surprisingly, the funniest movie of the year. And who knew DiCaprio was such the physical comedian? There are two scenes involving quaaludes (one on a plane, the other at a country club) that are pretty much perfect comedically thanks to DiCaprio. These scenes are what make him so good. He is absolutely fearless as an actor, especially here, and because of it, this might be his best work to date. As for Scorsese, it's just another home run, though it might not be quite a grand slam (Goodfellas). It's been rumored that the original length for the film ran somewhere in the area of four hours. This version is just under three (though it never feels it...the film is an absolute breeze to sit through), and towards the end it does feel like some of it has been chopped out. Just a small complaint though. Hilarious, debaucherous, and ultimately deeply scathing, The Wolf of Wall Street joins an already impressive list of some of Scorsese's best work. ***** (A+)
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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FUCKING (a new record set by the film) LISTS!
1. Goodfellas 2. Raging Bull 3. Taxi Driver 4. The Departed 5. After Hours 6. Hugo 7. The Wolf of Wall Street 8. The Aviator 9. The Color of Money 10. Casino 11. The King of Comedy 12. Shutter Island 12. Gangs of New York 13. Boxcar Bertha
I have yet to see a Scorsese movie I haven't at least liked.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:39 am |
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movies35
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 pm Posts: 8627 Location: Syracuse, NY
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This set the record for most fucks in a movie? I doubt that.  Maybe it was because it was such a long movie, but I definitely thought that End of Watch had more swearing. It actually bothered me in that movie because it was so annoying that is was constant.  Here though it didn't bother me.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:43 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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Wiki has it at 506 while IMDb has it at 414.
Edit: Turns out the classic "Gutterballs" holds the record for a non-documentary with 625 "fucks".
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:54 am |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22208 Location: Places
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Excellent film. A+.
Who the fuck are they kidding, Dicaprio should easily win the Oscar for this one.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:29 am |
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David
Pure Phase
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In regard to the portrayal of Jordan, it is a total Scarface '83 dynamic: the film glorifies and is in love with him and the insanity of lifestyle, even if it is "meant" to be a rise-and-fall/spiritual-vacuity narrative.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:03 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Antiheroes are out of fashion at the moment - - kids mistakenly think every leading character in a film needs to be a superhero nowadays.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:41 am |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: Antiheroes are out of fashion at the moment - - kids mistakenly think every leading character in a film needs to be a superhero nowadays. What? If anything, antiheroes are very IN FASHION at the moment. Look at the television landscape.
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:13 pm |
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Caius
A very honest-hearted fellow
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Libs wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: Antiheroes are out of fashion at the moment - - kids mistakenly think every leading character in a film needs to be a superhero nowadays. What? If anything, antiheroes are very IN FASHION at the moment. Look at the television landscape. Agree. Plus Belfort is not even an anti-hero, he is a straight villain, enjoyable, but a villain nonetheless.
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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brill.
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:27 pm |
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
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Fuckin fantastic. Just like Blue is the Warmest Color, it is such an easy three hours to get through and every second is brilliant. This is perhaps Leo's best role to date as he kills it here as do Hill, Robbie, McConaughey, Milioti, and Dujardin. It's also by far the funniest film of the year. I just can't wait to watch this again and again. It's a battle between this and Blue now for best of the year.
Also, Margot Robbie's got a body. Dayum.
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:33 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Caius wrote: Libs wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: Antiheroes are out of fashion at the moment - - kids mistakenly think every leading character in a film needs to be a superhero nowadays. What? If anything, antiheroes are very IN FASHION at the moment. Look at the television landscape. Agree. Plus Belfort is not even an anti-hero, he is a straight villain, enjoyable, but a villain nonetheless. Incorrect. Next you'll be saying Tony Montana isn't an antihero. ...and TV is for old folks nowadays, not kids.
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:42 pm |
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
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It's also hilarious to think just how many women went into a casting call and got a role based off how hot their bodies were naked or just pure hotness in general.
Examples: - Brad's "out of jail" party on the yacht - The bachelor party scenes - The chick in the golf course scene who's only need on screen is to be groped by Leo
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Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:20 am |
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Inny Binny
The Incredible Hulk
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:24 pm Posts: 564 Location: New Zealand
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yeah, it's entertaining but pretty shallow. not even particularly original. but it's good, i guess.
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Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:12 am |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22208 Location: Places
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Robbie obviously deserves Oscar attention. and porn attention.
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Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:11 pm |
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
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Robbie is too hot for porn.
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Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:08 pm |
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