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What grade would you give this film?
A 44%  44%  [ 14 ]
B 28%  28%  [ 9 ]
C 22%  22%  [ 7 ]
D 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
F 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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Loved it. A


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Also, this film and Raimi's first are completely different. If someone really thinks this is the same as the first than they probably think Transformers 2 and Deathly Hallows 2 are the same film as well.


Hey, which film am I talking about:

A science geek named Peter Parker is bitten by a radio-active spider. He acts out a bit and enjoys his powers, shirking his responsibilities -- he was supposed to help Uncle Ben work on the house but ignored it, for instance. Finally it comes to a head when he lets a thief robbing someone who screwed him over get away, resulting in the shooting death of his Uncle. From this the geek learns responsibility and decides to help people... while at the same time, a scientist has decided to administer the first human trial of a secretive formula on himself. This formula gives the scientist amazing strength but also drives him crazy, to the point he has in-depth conversations with himself. Peter and the scientist do battle with Peter's love interest in peril. At a certain point, when the odds look really bad, the people of New York all unite to help Peter. In the end Peter prevails -- but not without tragedy, as he is forced to make a final promise to a dying parent of someone he's close with. Finally we end with a sweeping shot of Spider-Man swinging through the city.


That could be any movie man!

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I liked it, more than 2 and 3. The rest is more competing with the first film saying "I would have done it differently this way" and it works a lot of the time. Emma Stone is actually awesome and Garfield was not as annoying as I thought he would be. It's funny. Some good action, some of the best of the series, and great score. Effects are kind of annoying at times (Thank god they didn't use a lot of the first person shots) And a lot of cliches at time that were just silly. It reminds me a lot of The Incredible Hulk. Only real difference is it didn't really improve on much. Just told it differently, took some things out, and put new things in. At the end of the day though, they should have just did more of the new stuff, as the rehashing (or doing it "differently") of things feels like you're hungover watching the first on TNT one day. At the end of the day, I enjoyed it, but it's hardly different enough to have much an impact.

Note: Uncle Ben and particularly Aunt May are so much better in this one

B+ I'd be down for a sequel.

I figured 2 days in might as well rank them.

Spiderman- A
Spiderman2 B
Spiderman3 C
Amazing Spiderman B+

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Also, this film and Raimi's first are completely different. If someone really thinks this is the same as the first than they probably think Transformers 2 and Deathly Hallows 2 are the same film as well.



No offense, man, but this is bullshit.

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Also, this film and Raimi's first are completely different. If someone really thinks this is the same as the first than they probably think Transformers 2 and Deathly Hallows 2 are the same film as well.


Hey, which film am I talking about:

A science geek named Peter Parker is bitten by a radio-active spider. He acts out a bit and enjoys his powers, shirking his responsibilities -- he was supposed to help Uncle Ben work on the house but ignored it, for instance. Finally it comes to a head when he lets a thief robbing someone who screwed him over get away, resulting in the shooting death of his Uncle. From this the geek learns responsibility and decides to help people... while at the same time, a scientist has decided to administer the first human trial of a secretive formula on himself. This formula gives the scientist amazing strength but also drives him crazy, to the point he has in-depth conversations with himself. Peter and the scientist do battle with Peter's love interest in peril. At a certain point, when the odds look really bad, the people of New York all unite to help Peter. In the end Peter prevails -- but not without tragedy, as he is forced to make a final promise to a dying parent of someone he's close with. Finally we end with a sweeping shot of Spider-Man swinging through the city.


You forgot to mention that there is also a funeral at the end of the movie.

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So if I compare directly:

Garfield and Maguire - equally good
Stone and Dunst - Stone is a little bit better
Visual effects - ten years have pased, so The Amazing Spider-Man wins this one
Uncle Ben - Martin Sheen all the way
Aunt May - Rosemary Harris wins this
Villain - tough one, but aren't THAT great, but I give the edge to Dafoe. A giant talking lizard looks ridiculous on film
Origins story - Much much better in Spdier-Man
Love story - way better in The Amazing Spider-Man, but not a single moment beats the iconic upside down kiss from Spider-Man
Humor - about equal
Sequel build-up - The Amazing Spider-Man wins this

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So me and my buds were talking afterwards and we're guessing #2's villain is...

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The dude at the end matches the image of Norman Osborn that we see at OsCorp.

Dr. Lecter wrote:
So if I compare directly:

Garfield and Maguire - equally good
Stone and Dunst - Stone is a little bit better
Visual effects - ten years have pased, so The Amazing Spider-Man wins this one
Uncle Ben - Martin Sheen all the way
Aunt May - Rosemary Harris wins this
Villain - tough one, but aren't THAT great, but I give the edge to Dafoe. A giant talking lizard looks ridiculous on film
Origins story - Much much better in Spdier-Man
Love story - way better in The Amazing Spider-Man, but not a single moment beats the iconic upside down kiss from Spider-Man
Humor - about equal
Sequel build-up - The Amazing Spider-Man wins this


I prefer Garfield to Maguire and think the sequel set-up was better in Spidey '02, but I agree with everything else.


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Garfield just captures the personality of Parker so much better than Maguire.


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Post Re: The Amazing Spider-Man
The Dark Shape wrote:
The dude at the end matches the image of Norman Osborn that we see at OsCorp.

Dr. Lecter wrote:
So if I compare directly:

Garfield and Maguire - equally good
Stone and Dunst - Stone is a little bit better
Visual effects - ten years have pased, so The Amazing Spider-Man wins this one
Uncle Ben - Martin Sheen all the way
Aunt May - Rosemary Harris wins this
Villain - tough one, but aren't THAT great, but I give the edge to Dafoe. A giant talking lizard looks ridiculous on film
Origins story - Much much better in Spdier-Man
Love story - way better in The Amazing Spider-Man, but not a single moment beats the iconic upside down kiss from Spider-Man
Humor - about equal
Sequel build-up - The Amazing Spider-Man wins this


I prefer Garfield to Maguire and think the sequel set-up was better in Spidey '02, but I agree with everything else.


Hmm, the ony way Spidey 02 sets up a sequel is by the way the MJ/Peter relationship plays out at the end and by Harry swearing revenge, right? Or am I missing something? The Amazing Spider-Man's overarching mystery builds up the whole film as a lead-in to a sequel...

Garfield/Maguire is a tough call.

And I don't know where Mysteryo would come from. It will pretty certainly be Osborn.

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I loved it better than the first Spiderman which is still a very good movie. I thought it handled some of the origins better but that is me. I really enjoyed Garfield and Stone as the leads. Stone is a much better actress than Dunst and she really took on the role of Stacey. The Lizard is a tough villain to do. I thought he was handled about as best as they could. It appears they will be going for the extreme side of marvel villains so we will probably see villains like Rhino and Electro down the road. I do think Osborn will be the villain in the sequel, but not sure if he will be the Green Goblin. They could have him as a mastermind pulling strings. I think Electro would be a cool villain to do next.


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
The Dark Shape wrote:
The dude at the end matches the image of Norman Osborn that we see at OsCorp.

Dr. Lecter wrote:
So if I compare directly:

Garfield and Maguire - equally good
Stone and Dunst - Stone is a little bit better
Visual effects - ten years have pased, so The Amazing Spider-Man wins this one
Uncle Ben - Martin Sheen all the way
Aunt May - Rosemary Harris wins this
Villain - tough one, but aren't THAT great, but I give the edge to Dafoe. A giant talking lizard looks ridiculous on film
Origins story - Much much better in Spdier-Man
Love story - way better in The Amazing Spider-Man, but not a single moment beats the iconic upside down kiss from Spider-Man
Humor - about equal
Sequel build-up - The Amazing Spider-Man wins this


I prefer Garfield to Maguire and think the sequel set-up was better in Spidey '02, but I agree with everything else.


Hmm, the ony way Spidey 02 sets up a sequel is by the way the MJ/Peter relationship plays out at the end and by Harry swearing revenge, right? Or am I missing something? The Amazing Spider-Man's overarching mystery builds up the whole film as a lead-in to a sequel...

Garfield/Maguire is a tough call.

And I don't know where Mysteryo would come from. It will pretty certainly be Osborn.



I think the Mysteryo suggestion comes from the fact he disappeared. I suppose it is possible that Mysteryo works for Osborn.


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Dr. Lecter wrote:
The Dark Shape wrote:
jmovies wrote:
Also, this film and Raimi's first are completely different. If someone really thinks this is the same as the first than they probably think Transformers 2 and Deathly Hallows 2 are the same film as well.


Hey, which film am I talking about:

A science geek named Peter Parker is bitten by a radio-active spider. He acts out a bit and enjoys his powers, shirking his responsibilities -- he was supposed to help Uncle Ben work on the house but ignored it, for instance. Finally it comes to a head when he lets a thief robbing someone who screwed him over get away, resulting in the shooting death of his Uncle. From this the geek learns responsibility and decides to help people... while at the same time, a scientist has decided to administer the first human trial of a secretive formula on himself. This formula gives the scientist amazing strength but also drives him crazy, to the point he has in-depth conversations with himself. Peter and the scientist do battle with Peter's love interest in peril. At a certain point, when the odds look really bad, the people of New York all unite to help Peter. In the end Peter prevails -- but not without tragedy, as he is forced to make a final promise to a dying parent of someone he's close with. Finally we end with a sweeping shot of Spider-Man swinging through the city.


You forgot to mention that there is also a funeral at the end of the movie.


And rejecting the girl he loves

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
Hmm, the ony way Spidey 02 sets up a sequel is by the way the MJ/Peter relationship plays out at the end and by Harry swearing revenge, right? Or am I missing something? The Amazing Spider-Man's overarching mystery builds up the whole film as a lead-in to a sequel...



If by 'builds up the whole film as a lead-in to a sequel' means 'was a big part of the film's finale before Sony's last minute reshoots,' then yes, Peter's parents are a sequel lead-in. :P


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It's good. It's also a bit underwhelming. The movie takes about a full hour to get going, and almost everything pre Uncle Ben's death is a step for step remake of the original, though I think I prefer this version for that first scene, Garfield, Field and Sheen. I also would've preferred another action scene as the movie goes a little too quiet at points. When it gets going it gets going though. I loved the scene on the bridge. I also liked the finale, but I couldn't help but wonder what happened to the giant tower that fell off the OsCorp building. Did it crush all the police cars below killing dozens? They cut away and it didnt make a sound, but I'm also pretty sure Spidey didn't catch it.

But on the whole it's a solid reboot thanks to Garfield, Field and Sheen. I also like Stone, but she had a pretty thankless role.

I'd put it on par with how I felt about the first movie when I first saw and I grew to love it almost as much as the sequel.

*** (B)

The Lizard was also a little too cheesy.

Spider-Man 2 - ***** (A+)
Spider-Man - **** (A-)
The Amazing Spider-Man - *** (B)
Spider-Man 3 - *1/2 (D+)

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The Amazing Spider-Man is, I am sad to report, not so amazing. In fact, it is one of the least pleasant and most uninspired superhero films of the last decade, rivaling such misfires as Fantastic Four, Green Lantern, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The decision to once again depict the title hero's origin, from his high school isolation to his fateful encounter with a radioactive spider to his beloved Uncle Ben's murder, has always been a strange one, but it need not have proved fatal: consider such gems as Let Me In and David Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

From first frame to last, however, this unfolds as an anemic, exhausting, and unimaginative variation on characters, scenes, and themes from a far superior film released just a decade ago, presented in rather heinous 3-D for your viewing displeasure. The painful tedium is almost a physical experience as the film, elongated to over two hours, hits similar note after similar note: consider, for instance, the halfhearted version here of Uncle Ben's violent death and Peter/Spider-Man's subsequent search for the culprit. We recognize the intentions and importance of these scenes, but there is no depth, no emotion, no electricity. It is just a rote retracing.

The sole divergences are cosmetic at best and never an improvement: the antagonist is the hilarious computer-generated Lizard, for example, instead of Willem Dafoe's more grounded and nuanced Green Goblin. The film's opening scenes go to great lengths to introduce a mystery regarding Peter's long lost parents, but this is forgotten until a scene during the end credits.

Decent actors seem adrift. The few-and-far-between action sequences include a few moments of visual spectacle, but are never exciting. Peripheral characters vanish from the film for too long to have an impact. Down to individual scenes, the film feels over-considered, over-cut, busy, and thinly conceived. Even the original score by James Horner is bland!

I couldn't wait for this to end, to be honest, and I need to call Spider-Man 3 tomorrow: so much is forgiven.

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The sequel should just be Irrfan Khan roasting weenies on the bridge, waiting for the storyline to remember him.

I'll give Rhys Ifans a point: he's solid as Dr. Connors, nicely conveying melancholia with a hint of madness. But once we enter the phase of the movie with the big, plastic CGI dinosaur with a British accent, his performance's subtle qualities are obviously lost.

The action in general is so, so boring. And it feels shoehorned in, never advancing the plot, but instead just existing because this type of movie needs big action sequences.

There are zero moments of wonder. Peter just...becomes Spider-Man 70 minutes in. No sense of anguish or discovery or transcendence.

They pulled a glorious bait-and-switch with the advertising, lol. There is no untold story here. It's just a bland remake of the first Sam Raimi movie. The "Do you have any idea what you really are?" line in every trailer and TV spot isn't even in the movie.

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It's as if you dislike everything in the world.

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When it ended I thought "well, that wasn't so bad" but thinking about it more it was a really underwhelming movie. It wasn't bad but it's something I'll forget about very soon.


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The Amazing Spider-Man is, I am sad to report, not so amazing. In fact, it is one of the least pleasant and most uninspired superhero films of the last decade, rivaling such misfires as Fantastic Four, Green Lantern, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The decision to once again depict the title hero's origin, from his high school isolation to his fateful encounter with a radioactive spider to his beloved Uncle Ben's murder, has always been a strange one, but it need not have proved fatal: consider such gems as Let Me In and David Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

From first frame to last, however, this unfolds as an anemic, exhausting, and unimaginative variation on characters, scenes, and themes from a far superior film released just a decade ago, presented in rather heinous 3-D for your viewing displeasure. The painful tedium is almost a physical experience as the film, elongated to over two hours, hits similar note after similar note: consider, for instance, the halfhearted version here of Uncle Ben's violent death and Peter/Spider-Man's subsequent search for the culprit. We recognize the intentions and importance of these scenes, but there is no depth, no emotion, no electricity. It is just a rote retracing.

The sole divergences are cosmetic at best and never an improvement: the antagonist is the hilarious computer-generated Lizard, for example, instead of Willem Dafoe's more grounded and nuanced Green Goblin. The film's opening scenes go to great lengths to introduce a mystery regarding Peter's long lost parents, but this is forgotten until a scene during the end credits.

Decent actors seem adrift. The few-and-far-between action sequences include a few moments of visual spectacle, but are never exciting. Peripheral characters vanish from the film for too long to have an impact. Down to individual scenes, the film feels over-considered, over-cut, busy, and thinly conceived. Even the original score by James Horner is bland!

I couldn't wait for this to end, to be honest, and I need to call Spider-Man 3 tomorrow: so much is forgiven.

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David wrote:
The Amazing Spider-Man is, I am sad to report, not so amazing. In fact, it is one of the least pleasant and most uninspired superhero films of the last decade, rivaling such misfires as Fantastic Four, Green Lantern, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The decision to once again depict the title hero's origin, from his high school isolation to his fateful encounter with a radioactive spider to his beloved Uncle Ben's murder, has always been a strange one, but it need not have proved fatal: consider such gems as Let Me In and David Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

From first frame to last, however, this unfolds as an anemic, exhausting, and unimaginative variation on characters, scenes, and themes from a far superior film released just a decade ago, presented in rather heinous 3-D for your viewing displeasure. The painful tedium is almost a physical experience as the film, elongated to over two hours, hits similar note after similar note: consider, for instance, the halfhearted version here of Uncle Ben's violent death and Peter/Spider-Man's subsequent search for the culprit. We recognize the intentions and importance of these scenes, but there is no depth, no emotion, no electricity. It is just a rote retracing.

The sole divergences are cosmetic at best and never an improvement: the antagonist is the hilarious computer-generated Lizard, for example, instead of Willem Dafoe's more grounded and nuanced Green Goblin. The film's opening scenes go to great lengths to introduce a mystery regarding Peter's long lost parents, but this is forgotten until a scene during the end credits.

Decent actors seem adrift. The few-and-far-between action sequences include a few moments of visual spectacle, but are never exciting. Peripheral characters vanish from the film for too long to have an impact. Down to individual scenes, the film feels over-considered, over-cut, busy, and thinly conceived. Even the original score by James Horner is bland!

I couldn't wait for this to end, to be honest, and I need to call Spider-Man 3 tomorrow: so much is forgiven.

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Yes.

You should live in infamy for saying this is no closer to Sam Raimi's Spider-Man than Harry Potter is to Transformers. ;)

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I really enjoyed it.

Yes, it's too soon for a reboot, and I still love the original Spider-Man from a decade ago, but this was different. I'm glad that rather than literally showing the same story again, it went a different way with some focus on his parents, it showed Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy rather than another Peter Parker/Mary Jane situation, etc. Of course, there's aspects of the original that are missed like Peter's side job as a photographer and working for Jameson and stuff, but repeating it all probably wouldn't have worked as well, which would hurt it overall.

What REALLY worked? Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man. Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy. Perfect casting, perfect chemistry between the two, the direction of their love story. Loved it.

What I prefer in the original: Lizard was decent, but Green Goblin was a much better villain. And overall, I think the origin story from the original is better. It was also funnier, from what I remember.

But as far as reboots go, this was great. And I'm excited for the next one.


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After seeing it again, the complaints about Peter forgetting about catching Uncle Ben's killer are stupid. The events with the Lizard happen in three days' time. It is not like Peter has time to catch the killer then nor does he really need to after the events of this film.

Same thing with the events of his parents. It is still going to be part of the series but that story doesn't really matter to Peter when the town is under attack and he is being chased by the police.


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The opening with the parents truly goes nowhere. And people said Prometheus left too many questions unanswered. ;) It's obvious Peter's history was intended to be a much larger part of this film (à la, strangely enough, Ang Lee's Hulk), but these scenes and moments were abandoned in the cutting room. I point out again the absence of the line "Do you have any idea what you really are?" Also gone is the Lizard telling Peter if he wants to know the secret of his family, he should "come and get it."

It's clear to any pair of eyes a certain ambition was cut free along the way in favor of a more straightforward "Stop the Lizard's evil plot! Stop the doomsday device as it counts down to zero!" storyline.

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