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Harold
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 Re: Shutter Island
Right as always (which hitherto is not very much).
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:42 pm |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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 Re: Shutter Island
Well... Moving on... I thought it was fantastic. I'm not sure why people are so upset about the ending. (SPOILERS, obviously) From pretty early on it was clear that Teddy Daniels' head wasn't on straight. This isn't one of those twists where they pull out the entire rug at the last minute. Instead they build ample dread, and while the final explanation was certainly long winded (as Devin Faraci noted, no twist ending should ever have a character get out a chalkboard to clear things up) it made everything that came before curiously satisfying. There's so many lines in the first two thirds that carry this extra layer of significance. I can't wait to watch this again.
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Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:50 am |
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Harry Warden
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Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 19747
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Now that I know the ending due to someone spoiling it for me, I may not bother seeing this. Those kind of endings are so been there, done that and hardly ever satisfying. Lehane could have tried harder and come up with a novel twist instead of going with the obvious (insane asylum, main is insane...gee, who could have guessed?). Might as well have made him dead the entire time while you're at it. Actually, a combo of the two would actually make it unique.
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:56 pm |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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Yes. Why go see a good movie?! What sense would that make?!?!?!
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:50 pm |
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Harry Warden
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Chip Munkington wrote: Yes. Why go see a good movie?! What sense would that make?!?!?! 
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:32 pm |
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Chippy
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You see almost every horror movie ever... and 95% of them have the same ending.
Yet you won't see this because... it has an ending that has been done before?
Almost EVERY ending has been done before.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:37 pm |
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Harry Warden
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Chip Munkington wrote: You see almost every horror movie ever... and 95% of them have the same ending.
Yet you won't see this because... it has an ending that has been done before?
Almost EVERY ending has been done before. This isn't really a horror movie (if it was, Libs would never have seen it) so your point is void. This is a psychological thriller. There's difference between a horror movie and a thriller. And you really think the reason for seeing something like Friday the 13th is because of the ending? No, of course not. No one goes to movies like that for the ending.
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:42 pm |
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Chippy
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Harry Warden wrote: Chip Munkington wrote: You see almost every horror movie ever... and 95% of them have the same ending.
Yet you won't see this because... it has an ending that has been done before?
Almost EVERY ending has been done before. This isn't really a horror movie (if it was, Libs would never have seen it) so your point is void. This is a psychological thriller. There's difference between a horror movie and a thriller. And you really think the reason for seeing something like Friday the 13th is because of the ending? No, of course not. No one goes to movies like that for the ending. I didn't say Shutter Island WAS a horror film. You're complaining about the ending of a movie being the same as other movies... when the movies that you are a huge fan of, do the same thing almost EVERY time.
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:46 pm |
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Harry Warden
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Chip Munkington wrote: Harry Warden wrote: Chip Munkington wrote: You see almost every horror movie ever... and 95% of them have the same ending.
Yet you won't see this because... it has an ending that has been done before?
Almost EVERY ending has been done before. This isn't really a horror movie (if it was, Libs would never have seen it) so your point is void. This is a psychological thriller. There's difference between a horror movie and a thriller. And you really think the reason for seeing something like Friday the 13th is because of the ending? No, of course not. No one goes to movies like that for the ending. I didn't say Shutter Island WAS a horror film. You're complaining about the ending of a movie being the same as other movies... when the movies that you are a huge fan of, do the same thing almost EVERY time. I don't go to movies like F13 for the plot (know it already because it can't really deviate from a formula). I go for the execution. You could say the same about rom-coms, which are even more formulaic and safe than horror movies.
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:48 pm |
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Chippy
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Yet you won't see Shutter Island for the execution?
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:49 pm |
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Harry Warden
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Chip Munkington wrote: Yet you won't see Shutter Island for the execution? Movies like F13 don't rely on a twist, Shutter Island does.
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:51 pm |
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Chippy
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Harry Warden wrote: Chip Munkington wrote: Yet you won't see Shutter Island for the execution? Movies like F13 don't rely on a twist, Shutter Island does. It does not rely on a twist. Just because it HAS a twist, does not mean it relies on it.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:09 pm |
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Harry Warden
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:13 pm |
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Chippy
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Umm... ok?
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:28 pm |
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Jim Halpert
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yeah i dont know what i'm supposed to take from those videos
dude cut his head cut with a giant knife and some chick bangs dude, what's the point?
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:40 pm |
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Harry Warden
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Asked to add spoiler tags because of NSFW nature of now 3 videos.
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:25 pm |
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Price
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Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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T&A is not exclusive to horror movies. Other genres use it to, so...
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:51 pm |
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Chippy
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Price wrote: T&A is not exclusive to horror movies. Other genres use it to, so... Like pornos
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:40 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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trixster wrote: Not really. I mean, I had guessed the twist going in, and that still didn't dampen my enjoyment. I don't think the film really relies on the narrative. I agree. I don't think the trailers did a terrific job hiding the twist. The good thing about the twist in this one was precisely the fact that they weren't going so much for the whole "Oh, wow, see how you're surprised now!!" effect, but rather for the fact that after the twist is fully revealed the whole thing actually makes a whole lot of sense. I loved the final sentence in the movie too.
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MGKC
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:42 pm Posts: 11808 Location: Kansas City, Kansas
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Agreed on Leo's last sentence. So chilling and Mark Ruffalo's reaction was perfect. I'm surprised he didn't try to fight for him.
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Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:24 am |
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mdana
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Solid A I saw the trailer for this I think with District 9. I thought it looked awful. When I heard it was pushed to Feb., I thought my first impression must have been correct. I started to re-evaluate my decision after watching the Scorsese montage at the Golden Globes. If anyone deserves a second chance it is this director. When I saw the new trailer in the last month, I thought it looked better and would give it a shot if the reviews were positive. They were for the most part, so I decided to go on Sunday. I don't know if these are really spoilers but I don't want to ruin anyone's enjoyment. The first scene is of Teddy Daniels (Leo DiCaprio) looking into the mirror disoriented from seasickness (the sight of water makes him quesy) and questioning if what he sees in his reflection is real. Then he walks out of the bathroom of the boat onto the deck, and the viewer first glimpses Daniels' new parner Chuck Aule (Mark Ruffalo) through a chain link fence.
See the movie to find your answer to Andrew Laeddis' query, "Which would be worse, to live as a monster or to die as a good man?"
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Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:40 am |
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mdana
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MG Casey wrote: Agreed on Leo's last sentence. So chilling and Mark Ruffalo's reaction was perfect. I'm surprised he didn't try to fight for him. Remember Patricia Clarkson's scene in the cave? It is practically impossible to prove yourself sane when you control your own behaviour. I believe it is impossible when you don't have that control. How does Dr. Sheehan prove a clinically insane person is sane if that person will undermine any evidence he presents to bolster that claim?
Ethically he was a doctor fighting to get patients to make their own sane decisions free of delusions. Teddy no longer had the self-protection of his delusions and Dr. Sheehan was allowing Teddy's choice of treatment options even if it was the most drastic option outside of actual suicide.
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Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:02 am |
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_axiom
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Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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8/10 -> B
A pretty good movie. I actually wasn't interested about the mystery itself. I was so pulled with great atmosphere (cinematography, art direction and music are awesome in this movie) that I just let myself go and enjoyed the whole ride. Scorsese really pulled a masterful Hitchcockian touch to the movie.
All actors do a wonderful job.
But there are times when the movie doesn't feel as tight, and I didn't like how characters spelled out the entire thing in the end. Really? Why? But the last scene was wonderful and it almost made the whole thing that came before it worth it.
I'm definitely thinking about checking the movie out once more.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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be.redy wrote: I'm definitely thinking about checking the movie out once more.
This movie defintely benefits from a second viewing. I saw it again a few days ao and it is just a different perspective knowing all the details (the gist of the twist is visible early on anyway, but it is about its details!)
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I don't see your review/opinion here? What did you think about the movie after the first viewing? How much did it improve on second?
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