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Shack
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It's definitely this year's Iron Man. Not flawless and it sticks to the summer blockbuster feel, but yea, it's brisk, good entertainment. In fact I'd call it one of the 'fastest' blockbusters I've seen in a while, the plot and film don't hold up for anything. I liked how it's basically structured like a tv episode... It's a one day uninterrupted affair encapsulating the mission once they get in the Enterprise and ends as soon as they win
Using the alternate timeline plotpoint was ingenius. Not only is it by far the most clean way to handle time travel, but it's also perfect for a reboot as it completley alleviates them from bowing to the show's lines or needing to 'set things up'. It also puts the stakes back in. Though I don't know what old Spock told young Spock at the end, something about paradoxes, whatever
Acting is all good. Visuals are INSANE. The tone of the film is charming and light, which is good. Albeit it let its characters show emotion about as much as a Vulcan, ironically considering the Spock thing
So yea... good. 3.5/5
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Eagle
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Awesome movie.
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Viper Rodgers
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Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:35 am Posts: 1526 Location: A better place
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Shack wrote: It's definitely this year's Iron Man. Not flawless and it sticks to the summer blockbuster feel, but yea, it's brisk, good entertainment. In fact I'd call it one of the 'fastest' blockbusters I've seen in a while, the plot and film don't hold up for anything. I liked how it's basically structured like a tv episode... It's a one day uninterrupted affair encapsulating the mission once they get in the Enterprise and ends as soon as they win
Using the alternate timeline plotpoint was ingenius. Not only is it by far the most clean way to handle time travel, but it's also perfect for a reboot as it completley alleviates them from bowing to the show's lines or needing to 'set things up'. It also puts the stakes back in. Though I don't know what old Spock told young Spock at the end, something about paradoxes, whatever
Acting is all good. Visuals are INSANE. The tone of the film is charming and light, which is good. Albeit it let its characters show emotion about as much as a Vulcan, ironically considering the Spock thing
So yea... good. 3.5/5 Right with yah... Already overrated in some respects, because it really is nothing more than your average run of the mill blockbuster. B-
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19443 Location: San Diego
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Wow... I did not know that was Winona Ryder! Weird.
I thought the movie was lots of fun. I'd love to see it again.
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32625 Location: the last free city
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A+ Great, great, great movie.  It should've kicked off summer instead of that horrible Wolverine. I hope ST is the Ironman of '09 at the boxoffice.
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BacktotheFuture
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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It is definitely this year's Iron Man. A lot of fun, great entertainment, but not flawless. Actions scenes are intense and everyone does a good enough job with their part. Back and forth between Spock and Kirk was particularly good. Favorite scene is probably the first, emotional beginning gave good base for rest of film. Could've gone for a little less cheesiness, especially with Young Kirk, and Nero needed more screen time.
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5578 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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Awesome movie. No one's talking about the plot though. So help me make sure I'm clear on this: The crew on board this Enterprise is living on a parallel universe to the one that the original crew is living on. And Spock and Eric Bana travelled from that original to this new one through a black hole. Correct?? If so, I think this was really brilliant. It allows the old Star trek to co-exist with whatever adventures the new crew embark on.
One plot hole question: why couldn't the Enterprise crew tell the other Federation ships to meet them at Earth as back up? I mean really?! Anyhow... great great movie!
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2001
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Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:38 am Posts: 4556
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Nearly there. Not a Trek fan or anything. I especially liked the ice planet sequence which I didn't see coming and totally refreshed the setting.
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_axiom
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Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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9/10 -> A-
When I first heard of a new Star Trek movie I wasn't really interested. I love ST serials, but movies were always weak (yeah, yeah - before anyone mentions it again First Contact is good, but it's still a B movie at most). I actually haven't even seen a trailer for this one. But I was there opening day, as a Trekkie in me couldn't wait to see it.
And it's the best Star Trek movie ever! It finally feels modern (something ST was always trying to be, but most of the times the show looked cheesy, which I have no problem with - the visuals were great, but some interior designs and character costumes were cheesy as hell) and it doesn't achieve that by gazillions of technobabble and a few decent VFX shots.
The story itself is very light. It flirts with the usual ST themes - time travel, parallel universes, singularities (black holes and red matter I guess) without adding something new, but still it works as a backdrop for a story of how the new Enterprise crew came to be. Parallel universe is not a new thing in ST. But it's the first time we'll spend more time in a parallel universe. I wouldn't call it a smart way, as it was the only way really, and I read a long time ago fan speculations that they will use parallel universes to distance the new ST from old ones so it's not a shocker they went that way. What I liked the most was the use of time travel - it was accidental which solves a number of time travel headaches that usually come up when time travel is possible to utilize. Hopefully time travel only stays accidental in the new Trek universe.
The opening of the movie is great. It's a very powerful emotional moment and we see the birth of JT Kirk. The part with Kirk and Spock as kids (especially the Kirk one as it was annoying) felt redundant, but it lasts only a few minutes and after that the movie takes a brisk pace and never stops. It has been two days now since I saw the movie and upon thinking there are a few parts that make no sense even in the ST universe. But that's the case with all of the ST movies/serials and sci-fi shows in general, so it's not something over which I would hold a grudge.
The new cast is great all around. Pine really shines as Kirk, as he doesn't mimic Shatner at all, but plays him completely differently and yet completely suitable and believable for what Kirk is. I was afraid Quinto would remind me of Sylar (as Sylar is eerily acting like a Vulcan lately), but never once did Sylar cross me mind. I won't go naming other cast members, but all of them are a great new versions of their characters. And characters are the strongest and the central part of the new ST movie and IMO they're the main story of the movie. The whole Nero plot is just a wonderful backdrop for setting everything up. Those who think that this new ST missed what ST is about - exploration, new things etc. obviously didn't understand the final narration and why it was used at the end of the movie rather at the beginning as usual.
The only thing I mind is that JJ is a bit of a too flashy director. The shaky cam was overly used. And the crane camera was unnecessarily used for some shots. Hopefully they will see that and use a tripod in the sequel a bit more. There's nothing wrong with a steady frame.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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I thought of a couple of positive things to say about the new Star Trek: 1. It's a great army recruitment commercial 2. Keenser (Scotty's sidekick) makes Jar Jar Binks look like a much better character in retrospect
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: I thought of a couple of positive things to say about the new Star Trek: 1. It's a great army recruitment commercial 2. Keenser (Scotty's sidekick) makes Jar Jar Binks look like a much better character in retrospect 1. I guess so. 2. Never. Keenser can actually talk and was more enjoyable in his few scenes than Jar Jar was in all 3 prequels combined.
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jmovies
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Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:22 pm Posts: 12333
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Every year there seems to be that one film that can completely bring a franchise to a new life. 2005 was Batman Begins, 2006 had Casino Royale, 2007 had Live Free or Die Hard, 2008 it was the Dark Knight, and now in 2009 we have Star Trek. Now only having seen a couple of the other Trek films and bit of others I can say that I'm not a "Trekkie". However, this newest revival has me really excited about the future of the franchise. J.J. Abrams has had his share of hits with "Mission: Impossible III" and the hit "Cloverfield" but this film (and hopeful new franchise) is what he'll most likely be remembered for down the road in movies. The casting was pretty spot on and I'm glad J.J. didn't aim for the big stars for this. Chris Pine kicks away his dud roles that he has grown on with "Just My Luck" and "Smokin' Aces" to deliver a strong performance as James T. Kirk. Other notable actors in this film included Zachary Quinto as Spock, Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy, and Simon Pegg as Scotty. The visuals are some of the best I've seen in a while especially in the film's chilling first 10-15 minutes. The story is a strong one at the same time. If there is one blockbuster that will come out on top for 2009, it'll most likely be Star Trek. Such a treat. A+
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Thegun
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Sam wrote: Awesome movie. No one's talking about the plot though. So help me make sure I'm clear on this: The crew on board this Enterprise is living on a parallel universe to the one that the original crew is living on. And Spock and Eric Bana travelled from that original to this new one through a black hole. Correct?? If so, I think this was really brilliant. It allows the old Star trek to co-exist with whatever adventures the new crew embark on.
One plot hole question: why couldn't the Enterprise crew tell the other Federation ships to meet them at Earth as back up? I mean really?! Anyhow... great great movie! I think this one is much much bigger Since its so easy to destroy that drill thing, just shoot it with even a normal gun, why do no Earthlings, considering its right outside StarFleet send something up to shoot it. You'd think how important StarFleet is, they'd have anti spaceship guns or something to destroy it with. Like said, its a Trek film through and through with plot holes and cheesiness (haha, that Guy Yahooing into the beam of flame was one of the most absurdly hysterical things I ever saw in film, but its one of the better entries with a fresher face.
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Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Thegun wrote: I think this one is much much bigger Since its so easy to destroy that drill thing, just shoot it with even a normal gun, why do no Earthlings, considering its right outside StarFleet send something up to shoot it. You'd think how important StarFleet is, they'd have anti spaceship guns or something to destroy it with. Ummm, the defense systems were addressed. They made Pike tell them the codes. There wasn't a direct scene, but the insertion of the worm and Pike's black mouth when they rescued him suggest he told them what they needed. 
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Flava'd vs The World
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25427 Location: Classified
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Magnus wrote: Was anyone else annoyed by the constant lens flares? Like, I know they were done with intent, but it annoyed me. I pointed them out as one of the reasons it wasn't an A+ movie. 
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Sat May 09, 2009 2:51 pm |
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KC
Team Kris
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An overall entertaining blockbuster that has all the right elements. I thought Quinto was a perfect Spock and was my favorite character throughout the movie. Being a die-hard Lost fan, I should have known what was in store for me. Abrams must love time travel as he includes here as well. I'm a sucker for plots that have time travel so I loved it. But I could see some being confused.
(example: Shouldn't the older Spock remember meeting his younger self? Why wouldn't the older Spock tell his younger self to simply stop the supernova before it destroys the planet Ramula (sp?) thereby Eric Bana's character would have no reason to destroy Vulcan in the first place?)
B+
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
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^ Older Spock never met his younger self before. It's not a repeat history kind of thing. Older Spock is from the future on a parallel universe.
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Michael A
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I guess we can compare this to iron man, as well done pop-entertainment, but not something considerably beyond that (TDK) but I think the big difference for me was the ending. I'm sure many disagree with this, but I thought the final battle in Iron Man, with the hammed lines from Bridges, and the surprisingly mediocre action sequences, as well as the lack of explanation of reason for the villian and his behavior, was by far the weakest part of the film, and a huge problem with it. ST on the other hand, while corny and very 'happily ever after' was well executed and maintained the intensity, narrative, and tone of the entire film, something IM didn't do at all. That's IM hovers between an 8/8.5 for me and ST gets a solid 9.
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 18501
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John Savage wrote: I guess we can compare this to iron man, as well done pop-entertainment, but not something considerably beyond that (TDK) but I think the big difference for me was the ending. I'm sure many disagree with this, but I thought the final battle in Iron Man, with the hammed lines from Bridges, and the surprisingly mediocre action sequences, as well as the lack of explanation of reason for the villian and his behavior, was by far the weakest part of the film, and a huge problem with it. ST on the other hand, while corny and very 'happily ever after' was well executed and maintained the intensity, narrative, and tone of the entire film, something IM didn't do at all. That's IM hovers between an 8/8.5 for me and ST gets a solid 9. TDK sucked and I don't see the comparison between Ironman and Star Trek.. Ironman had the beloved RDJ with a great story and action to match while TREK had a cast of teenagers with Pine as a virtual nobody for a character like Kirk..
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Gulli
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This is utterly superb. I am amazed at how Abrams pulled it off. its a complete reboot of star trek and yet it retained the spirit of it totally.
That said its not flawless. Abrams cannot handle action very well. You needed a Michael Bay in some sections to control the jittery camera and confusing perspectives.
But this film lives not on the action but the character development and in that regard I could not find fault. I'm still buzzing an hour after watching it, I adore rich engaging characters and Abram's assaulted me with them.
Nimoy's role was great as well. Anyhow I'm shocked I expected the rave reviews to be utter hyperbole and nonsense but I was glad to be proven wrong.
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Sat May 09, 2009 8:42 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21895 Location: Walking around somewhere
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be.redy wrote: Thegun wrote: I think this one is much much bigger Since its so easy to destroy that drill thing, just shoot it with even a normal gun, why do no Earthlings, considering its right outside StarFleet send something up to shoot it. You'd think how important StarFleet is, they'd have anti spaceship guns or something to destroy it with. Ummm, the defense systems were addressed. They made Pike tell them the codes. There wasn't a direct scene, but the insertion of the worm and Pike's black mouth when they rescued him suggest he told them what they needed.  Defenses to enter Earth. Like Druida's Space Shield in Spaceballs. They still should have many ships with weapons or some sort of weapon, instead of just staring at it for a half hour. Still a minor detail that is small enough not to get into a hissy over.
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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With one film, J. J. Abrams both revitalizes a dormant, oft-despised franchise and delivers a blast of pure, no-holds-barred summer popcorn entertainment. This is a smart, stylish, and well-constructed sci-fi actioner. The ensemble cast is strong, with Chris Pine announcing himself as a great new movie star -- attractive, charismatic, intense -- and Leonard Nimoy returning to the role he made iconic in an engaging, stately fashion. The only flaw is the villain, a raging Romulan called Nero. Eric Bana gives a dedicated performance and is an intimidating presence, but the character feels underdeveloped and doesn't pose a convincing threat to Kirk and co. during the third act -- he seems slow-witted and a step behind the Federation once the action-loaded climax begins.
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Gulli
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The reviews pissing all over the original franchise are just being lazy and honestly they should explain their snide remarks in depth before launching them.
This is a superb film but the lazy hahahahaha original show is crap, new show is awesome position reeks of a lack of intelligence. Meh sorry Gunslingers review annoys me.
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Libs
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Dazzling entertainment with a brain. I've never been a Star Trek fan at all but this movie has possibly converted me. J.J. Abrams completely delivers with this: the special effects are awesome, there's never a single dull moment and there's enough inspired humor here to almost make the film feel like a comedy at times. Chris Pine, in a star-making performance, ably fills the shoes of Captain Kirk, while Zachary Quinto is similarly good as Spock and the two play off each other well. All of the other cast members are great, including the delightful Zoe Saldana as Uhura and Karl Urban as McCoy. Sometimes the film feels like it moves a bit too fast but that's a minor complaint. This movie is great fun and I'd enjoy seeing it again. A-
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Christian
Team Kris
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I usually end up being disappointed with films like these getting super rave reviews, but I thought it was wonderful and fun. I don't consider myself a Trekkie, but I enjoy watching the original series - and this film really gave me renewed interest. At least they kept Chekov's campy accent! 
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