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snack Extraordinary Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159	Re: WALL-E You know, for an animated robot, I can't think of a more human character than WALL-E in mainstream cinema this era. Anyone?
Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:00 pm

Tyler Powered By Hate Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:55 pm Posts: 7578 Location: Torrington, CT	Re: WALL-E bABA wrote: Sun Ra wrote: Viperman wrote: Sun Ra wrote: I can at least see where Viperman comes from on it being disjointed--but the two worlds of the ship and Earth are supposed to be radically different with some very subtle similarities. As for the plant thing, well, *S.D.* comes to mind... And yes, women are going to eat this film up. They responded by far the most positively to the film when I went. Thank you Sun Ra! As i said, i by no means dislike the film or would ever call it a poorly made movie, its just i found too many flaws to enjoy it on the level that everyone else did... *btw, what do you mean by S.D.?* Suspension of disbelief. Wooden toys and videotapes that survive 700+ years, a cockroach that would survive multiple crushings like that. It's still a bit of a fantasy, and none of it's important in the light of the plot, which is to show WALL-E's curiosity, loneliness, his love and his fleeting observations of human sloth in the holding ships. That's why I don't buy the "environmentalist anti-capitalist hypocrisy" spiel, as it's there just as a way to get WALL-E's contact with almost all life severed and to give a mechanism for the increasing sloth of humans. And the plant? A device to get him and EVE back to space and eventually everyone back to earth. It's really not that important, outside of moving the plot forward, and like I said, it's a fantasy. What i love about animation and most stylized movies is that i'm a big fan of visual representation of things, something most people don't queue in on. This was the case with 300, and this is a case with Wall-E Roaches are said to survive just about anything .. the idea that the roach survives Wall-E stepping over him is not that an instance such as that won't kill him but more so a visual queue to the fact that cockroaches as a species survive everything ... I felt the same with the flower .... it wasn't that a plant was just growing within that dump, it was mroe of an artistic interpretation that amongst all the junk found on earth, mother nature still found a way to bring life back. but thats just me. That's basically what I was saying anyway. It's not a realistic film by definition, nor should it be. If you want realism, shoot it in live action. _________________ It's my lucky crack pipe.
Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:16 pm

xiayun Extraordinary Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA	Re: WALL-E Just got back... WOW...... The most romantic film I've seen in a long time? Check. Possibly the most beautiful film I've ever seen? Check. The best, most elegant Pixar film ever produced? Check. And the plot is as multi-layered and meaningful as ever. How they conveyed their environmental message without being preachy reminded me of Miyazaki's films. So heartbreaking. A/A+ for sure. More thoughts later. _________________ Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:26 pm

MovieGeek Grill Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:38 pm Posts: 3682 Location: Here	Re: WALL-E Wall-E is the most beautiful movie I have ever seen. I have fallen in love with not only Wall-E himself, but Eve and the awesome amazing Mo. This is by far the best animated movie I have ever seen and it's one of the best movies altogether. I had tears in my eyes a few times and I just love love love this movie. No movie this year will be better than Wall-E. 10/10 _________________ i'm back
Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:49 pm

billybobwashere He didn't look busy?! Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:59 pm Posts: 4308	Re: WALL-E Darth Indiana Bond wrote: perhaps the only time he might have stretched the plausability factor in Ratatouille was in how Remy controls Linguini through his hair, I'm saying this as an ardent lover of Ratatouille (either the best or second best Pixar flick IMO), but that's one hell of a stretched-beyond-belief plot element there. I mean, it worked, people liked it, and there weren't complaints about it -- but if you're gonna complain about WALL-E's plausibility, Ratatouille major plot device is a complete hoax. That's why I allow this sorta stuff with animation - because you let the mixture of an unreal world with real themes take a hold of you. I mean, "The Incredibles" is probably the best example: It's a world where people have superpowers, but within the story, it's a family dramedy about choice. That's a completely unrealistic concept mixed with relatable themes. That's what Pixar has always been about. _________________ Retroviral Videos A film-based project created for the purpose of helping raise awareness about HIV/AIDS, specifically in South Africa.
Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:29 pm

nghtvsn Extraordinary Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:13 pm Posts: 11016 Location: Warren Theatre Oklahoma	Re: WALL-E MovieGeek wrote: Wall-E is the most beautiful movie I have ever seen. I have fallen in love with not only Wall-E himself, but Eve and the awesome amazing Mo. This is by far the best animated movie I have ever seen and it's one of the best movies altogether. I had tears in my eyes a few times and I just love love love this movie. No movie this year will be better than Wall-E. 10/10 The very end when WallE seems to have had his memory erased was getting me dangerously close to tearing up. _________________ 2009 World of KJ Fantasy Football World Champion Team MVP : Peyton Manning : Record 11-5 : Points 2669.00 [b]FREE KORRGAN 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. DONALD J. TRUMP #MAGA #KAG! 10,000 post achieved on - Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:49 pm
Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:46 pm

Darth Indiana Bond 007 Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 11619 Location: Wouldn't you like to know	Re: WALL-E To billybob: I agree, but will up it one, I think some of the most magical films of all time, such as The Indy films, ET, Princess Bride and so on all have those unplausable moments, and I feel movies that don't aim at being "realistic" can have suspension of disbelief, as long as it works in the context of their world. _________________
Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:29 am

2001 Another You Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:38 am Posts: 4556	Re: WALL-E nghtvsn wrote: MovieGeek wrote: Wall-E is the most beautiful movie I have ever seen. I have fallen in love with not only Wall-E himself, but Eve and the awesome amazing Mo. This is by far the best animated movie I have ever seen and it's one of the best movies altogether. I had tears in my eyes a few times and I just love love love this movie. No movie this year will be better than Wall-E. 10/10 The very end when WallE seems to have had his memory erased was getting me dangerously close to tearing up. Are you famiLar of the LittLe forum feature caLLed spoiLer tag? There are some peopLe here who can't see it untiL August or September, LIKE ME.
Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:50 am

billybobwashere He didn't look busy?! Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:59 pm Posts: 4308	Re: WALL-E Darth Indiana Bond wrote: To billybob: I agree, but will up it one, I think some of the most magical films of all time, such as The Indy films, ET, Princess Bride and so on all have those unplausable moments, and I feel movies that don't aim at being "realistic" can have suspension of disbelief, as long as it works in the context of their world. I agree, but does hair-body control really work in the otherwise pretty realistic world of "Ratatouille"? It was a movie where there was seemingly nothing unrealistic about the way bodies worked (aside from the rat's ability to cook, I suppose), and suddenly, WHAM. But I forgive Ratatouille, because it was a very cute plot device, and as the scene before it showed, there was no way it could've worked without this. _________________ Retroviral Videos A film-based project created for the purpose of helping raise awareness about HIV/AIDS, specifically in South Africa.
Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:37 am

snack Extraordinary Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159	Re: WALL-E Easter Eggs! http://community.livejournal.com/ohnoth ... tml#cutid1
Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:03 am

Shack Devil's Advocate Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40586	Re: WALL-E Ratatouille is also about a talking rat who cooks... hair pulling trick being the only stretch of plausability my ass. I'm pretty sure realism wasn't the object there. I think the hair pulling thing is intentionally ridiculous... it's a gag, kind of a hidden joke that they never try to make it reasonable or explainable at all, that's the charm of it. _________________ Shack’s top 50 tv shows - viewtopic.php?f=8&t=90227
Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:21 am

thompsoncory Rachel McAdams Fan Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14626 Location: LA / NYC	Re: WALL-E This was one of the most breathtaking and beautiful films I have ever seen. The "dancing" sequence was quite possibly one of the most utterly fantastic sequences in any animated film ever. I had tears in my eyes. It's Disney's best romance since Beauty and the Beast and Pixar's best since Finding Nemo. Easily the best film of the year thus far. A+
Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:35 am

JURiNG ef star star kay Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:45 pm Posts: 3016 Location: Cairo, Egypt	Re: WALL-E another A+!! waiting for another one from Libs _________________
Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:55 am

Bradley Witherberry Extraordinary Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar	Re: WALL-E 2001 wrote: Are you famiLar of the LittLe forum feature caLLed spoiLer tag? There are some peopLe here who can't see it untiL August or September, LIKE ME. We've discussed this before, but *the "Everyone's A Critic" forum is a spoiler-permitted area to allow for a full and free discussion* of films*. Personally, I don't click on these threads until after seeing any movie, not only to avoid spoilers, but to avoid compromising my opinion of a movie before I can form my own. I agree with you 100% about spoiler tags anywhere else in the WOKJ, but consider you crazy for reading a multi-page review thread on a great movie like WALL-E* before you have the opportunity to see it...
Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:00 am

2001 Another You Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:38 am Posts: 4556	Re: WALL-E Bradley Witherberry wrote: I agree with you 100% about spoiler tags anywhere else in the WOKJ, but consider you crazy for reading a multi-page review thread on a great movie like WALL-E before you have the opportunity to see it... Yeah, it's a crazy and stupid thing to do but its been just 2 days; it's too earLy to spoiL the best stuff around. I do bet though that there are more great scenes in this that I'm not yet aware about so I'm not yet compLeteLy spoiLed, am I? Anyone?
Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:46 am

David Pure Phase Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland	Re: WALL-E Strong Pixar film. Not their best (Ratatouille is). It has moments of transcendent and devastating beauty (the entire first act, WALL-E and EVE's space dance), but also stretches of chaotic and disjointed action (everything on the space station involving the malfunctioning robots, who seem to be present only so toy companies can sell more diverse WALL-E merchandise). Overall, I loved it, but feel it could have been even better. B+ _________________ 1. The Lost City of Z - 2. A Cure for Wellness - 3. Phantom Thread - 4. T2 Trainspotting - 5. Detroit - 6. Good Time - 7. The Beguiled - 8. The Florida Project - 9. Logan and 10. Molly's Game
Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:19 pm

insomniacdude I just lost the game Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5868	Re: WALL-E loyalfromlondon wrote: insomniacdude wrote: You people getting your panties into a bunch over three fake votes is both amusing and annoying. Fake votes happen on EVERY SINGLE movie thread in this forum, and we only worry about them when a movie comes along that has the predisposition to be loved by everyone who hasn't even seen it yet. $0.02 keep the change That was actually a pretty classy response. Kudos. :thumpsup: _________________
Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:06 pm

insomniacdude I just lost the game Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5868	Re: WALL-E Darth Indiana Bond wrote: To billybob: I agree, but will up it one, I think some of the most magical films of all time, such as The Indy films, ET, Princess Bride and so on all have those unplausable moments, and I feel movies that don't aim at being "realistic" can have suspension of disbelief, as long as it works in the context of their world. All of the really good movies work because the characters make choices that stay true to themselves and to the world they are in. For example: A plant can live in outer space? Sure! Why the hell not? I'll go with it. So long as the blatant disregard for basic physics 1) makes "sense" in the world, and 2) is used by WallE and Eve to further their story and/or development in an intelligent way, I don't care if it survives a nuclear holocaust. For example, Shia LaBeuff swinging through vines in IJ4 met neither of the requirements listed above, so even though it was completely unrealistic in the same vein of a plant growing in a fridge without light or water, it is met with much more ridicule. _________________
Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:19 pm

insomniacdude I just lost the game Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5868	Re: WALL-E 2001 wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: I agree with you 100% about spoiler tags anywhere else in the WOKJ, but consider you crazy for reading a multi-page review thread on a great movie like WALL-E before you have the opportunity to see it... Yeah, it's a crazy and stupid thing to do but its been just 2 days; it's too earLy to spoiL the best stuff around. I do bet though that there are more great scenes in this that I'm not yet aware about so I'm not yet compLeteLy spoiLed, am I? Anyone? I think you're best bet from here on out is to just avoid this thread between now and when you see it. If you've read everything so far quite a bit has been spoiled, but not everything, so get out now while you have the chance! If you must know what other people think, just skim to thread and check the ends of posts for grades. I don't like that spoilers are free reign here outside of spoiler tags, but thems the rules. _________________
Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:21 pm

jujubee Forum General Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:45 pm Posts: 6447	Re: WALL-E I just saw it again with my sisters (one of them decided to stay home and miss out) and the plant was NOT inside the fridge. The fridge door was clearly not on the actual fridge, but next to it. The plant was under the door, growing out of soil, with access to air. There is clearly rain and therefore water. The only question is whether it was able to get access to sunlight, but it's quite possible that it was positioned so sun came through a crack between the top of the door and the mountain of whatever. So it's not that big a leap to believe that's possible, if it really bothered anyone. And I figured EVE had some sort of life suspension device inside her that the plant was placed in. But, as everyone has said already, it doesn't really matter anyway. _________________ ......
Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:59 pm

Bradley Witherberry Extraordinary Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar	Re: WALL-E jujubee wrote: I just saw it again with my sisters (one of them decided to stay home and miss out) and the plant was NOT inside the fridge. The fridge door was clearly not on the actual fridge, but next to it. The plant was under the door, growing out of soil, with access to air. There is clearly rain and therefore water. The only question is whether it was able to get access to sunlight, but it's quite possible that it was positioned so sun came through a crack between the top of the door and the mountain of whatever. So it's not that big a leap to believe that's possible, if it really bothered anyone. And I figured EVE had some sort of life suspension device inside her that the plant was placed in. But, as everyone has said already, it doesn't really matter anyway. Has no one ever seen a pale young sprout taking advantage of the tiniest little crack in the shady corner of a parking lot? Have you been living inside a fridge?!?
Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:34 pm

misutaa je vois l'avenir Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:33 pm Posts: 3841 Location: Hollywood/Berkeley, CA	Re: WALL-E Aside from a few things, it was a GREAT film. I liked it a lot. A-
Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:59 pm

insomniacdude I just lost the game Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5868	Re: WALL-E Bradley Witherberry wrote: jujubee wrote: I just saw it again with my sisters (one of them decided to stay home and miss out) and the plant was NOT inside the fridge. The fridge door was clearly not on the actual fridge, but next to it. The plant was under the door, growing out of soil, with access to air. There is clearly rain and therefore water. The only question is whether it was able to get access to sunlight, but it's quite possible that it was positioned so sun came through a crack between the top of the door and the mountain of whatever. So it's not that big a leap to believe that's possible, if it really bothered anyone. And I figured EVE had some sort of life suspension device inside her that the plant was placed in. But, as everyone has said already, it doesn't really matter anyway. Has no one ever seen a pale young sprout taking advantage of the tiniest little crack in the shady corner of a parking lot? Have you been living inside a fridge?!? Never leave this website _________________
Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:22 pm

Chippy KJ's Leading Pundit Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!	Re: WALL-E It was even better the 3rd time! Yes, that means I have seen this THREE times _________________ trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct Rev wrote: Fuck Trump
Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:43 pm

billybobwashere He didn't look busy?! Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:59 pm Posts: 4308	Re: WALL-E I dunno if I wanna watch "Wall-E" again so soon...for me, it seems like a see-it-once-a-year-and-get-blown-away-by-what-you-forgot sorta thing. _________________ Retroviral Videos A film-based project created for the purpose of helping raise awareness about HIV/AIDS, specifically in South Africa.
Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:44 pm
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