I agree with BKB's review.

Yes, I'm serious.........I have no reason to be trolling.

I enjoyed the first two Spidey movies, probably putting both in the B+ range, with the first being slightly better. It kind of always puzzled me that Spidey 2 was hailed as the Citizen Kane of comic book movies when it came out (and it still seems to have that moniker, perhaps alongside Batman Begins). My main problem with that movie was the sub-par action scenes which were poorly shot and featured shody effects work and I wasn't digging any of the stuff with Harry. And while Spiderman 3 isn't perfect effects wise (the opening fight between Pete and Harry has that rubber band feel with the two of them bouncing everywhere), it is far superior to the first two and features some truly astounding sequences. Any scenes with the Sandman are marvelous, especially when he grows to monstrous proportions at the end. Look closely and you can see all sorts of junk stuck in him, like cinder blocks and car tires, basically whatever was sitting on that construction site. The armored car fight was quick, but I found it better choreographed and shot than any action in the previous two movies. The effects guys should be commended for balancing all the shit that was going on in that last battle and pretty much nailing the texture and compositing. Trust me, I have thrown a few barbs the way of Spiderman 2 and its oscar winning effects (barf), so nobody is more surprised than me at how impressive the new stuff is.

Yeah, Venom deserves his own film. Last week I managed to catch the episodes of the animated series (the one from the 90's) that dealt with the birth of Venom and onwards to Carnage and I was thinking, fuck, why can't they just put this to film? Probably because it would be an almost non-stop action movie, that's why. And I'm not saying that I wouldn't enjoy that, because I would probably like it better than what I saw today. But Raimi has his own version of the Spiderman universe going on in this trilogy of films and they focus a lot more on Peter Parker's inner turmoil and his relationship with Mary Jane. These elements were well done in Spidey 1 and 2, but they are much more effective in this third chapter. I enjoyed their squabbles and how the upside down Spidey-kiss with Gwen threw a wrench into Parker's planned proposal (a great scene for sure). That is Gwen's purpose in this movie, as first a catalyst and then as an object that Peter knowingly uses to hurt Mary Jane. By the way....Bryce Dallas Howard = yummy. Anyway, my point is is that the real villain of this piece seems to be Pete himself. Sandman, Brock/Venom and Harry all serve to, in their own unique way, act as targets for Parker's pent up aggression, feelings of vulnerablilty and of course guilt. The symbiote lets him take action against all of them. Sandman is tied to the killing of Ben, so symbiote/Parker wants him dead. Brock threatens his job, which also threatens Peter's ability to take care of his soon to be wife, Mary Jane. And Harry threatens to take Mary Jane away from him, something you know he has probably been insecure about for awhile. When Tobey makes that turn in the movie, it catches fire and provides huge laughs and some intense sequences. The stuff with the girl next door is golden (really, Parker needs to get with her ). So I'm fine with the move on Raimi's part to take the best of what the Venom story brings (the character conflict) and relegate Venom to side villain status, not to mention I think they did a good job with the look.

And thank christ they finally decided to not kill one of the villains, since in the comics these guys always keep coming back. I found the ending to be pitch perfect.

Best Spiderman film yet - A

That's the problem I have though. It's just okay. This ties my point back into that scene where he hits her. I understand that he's supposed to cross the line, but by doing that? Come on. Because of that, I have a problem with the ending, in that it's just an "Everything is okay now" type ending. It should've been something more. Instead, Raimi painted himself into a corner and we're stuck with it.

No, this needed to be the end of the series. The second one already ended on a cliffhanger. I think with everything happening all at once, made the movie much more exciting and interesting. Audiences would have lost interest and been 2 steps ahead of the storyline with less.

I made my point clearer above. I had no idea what I was saying in the first version.

My point is that yes, the ending is correct for this film. The story shouldn't have been told this way though and Raimi/Columbia/Arad have fucked it up. The series should've ended on a less somber note, especially considering the tone of the first two films.

Still any thoughts on what the hell that sand machine was. I'm lost. I mean as ludicrous of an idea of Doc Oc's 4 arms were, they were at least explained. Whats the Goddam point of demoloculizing sand. And why leave it wide open.

Its like the stupidness of Arnold in Batman and Robin falling into that open vat of liquid ice, or Clark Kent pushing the evil Superman into a pool of Acid that only has a sign that says "WARNING ACID"

Any Exposition apart from the daughter was tough with Sandman same with the finale, in between was a great villian.

Just go with it.

While I agree that the cgi in Transformers looks amazing, it's much easier to make metal objects/robots look real than trying to double a human being. The Sandman effects in Spiderman 3 would not have been any better had ILM or Weta done them, I believe.

Easily the weakest of the three, but a good helping of fun. There are too many storylines going on, but the action scenes are highly impressive(save for the final one, which goes on a tad long). Tobey Maguire is as good as ever as Peter Parker/Spider-Man, both when he's being the good guy and acting like an jerk. Kirsten Dunst is a bit wasted as MJ in this one(she starts to become a nag after a while, but oddly enough the scenes between her and Maguire are effective), but she has nothing on Bryce Dallas Howard in the "wasted" department. James Franco is average, as usual, but the supporting cast is solidly filled out: franchise regulars Rosemary Harris and J.K. Simmons(who is a riot) provide solid use of their limited screen time. Thomas Hayden Church is effective as Flint Marko/Sandman, a villan who really has a good deed on his mind, and Topher Grace is delightfully nasty as Eddie Brock/Venom. Great special effects. Solid Summer entertainment. B

I actually agree. I was just trying to be cheeky.

The effects I could get past, in any film, if the script/acting is good enough.

The more I think about this movie thie more I hate it, arsi I beg you to loath it with me it deserves no more then that.

I am sooo disappointed, the more i think about the movie the more i hate it. There are so mcuh things i didnt like that im not going to bother writting them... and im tired.... But im going to say this. It had one of the worst endings ever...

C- (just because of two awesome scenes)

I am right with you Matantoni..... This movie just did not work. It is sad to think that a movie that had so much freaking potential, was just pretty damn bad is depressing... Practically nothing worked for me except for the Bruce Cambell scene. Raimi lost the magic touch he had in the first 2 and overkilled this one to the max. With the first two, i had a connection with the characters, but this one never built on anything and left me feeling like i could give two shits on what happens. I don't think i can bring myself to giving it a D, so i will give it a solid C-! If any other Blockbuster this summer dissapoints as much as this one, i think i will cry....

Well a big step up from part 2 in my book. A/A-

MUHAHAHAHA, all according to plan, I feel like Judge Harethorn in Ten Little Indians

I'm not sure who here has seen Superman IV, but did Sandman's musical theme remind anyone of Nuclear Man's?

Till the End, or last ten minusts, this was my favorite spidey film, But the conclusion was horrid, (almost F worthy). Maguire's acting was Pretty Bad, I Bet Shia Lebuf's preformace in Tranformers will be way better (Lebuf's performace in Disturbia was IMO better than Maguire's in Spidey 3)

any scene with Harry is A+ material, He was easily the best thing about the film.


B

D

C..I don't even want to talk about how big of a mess this movie was. The only reason it gets this C is due to its special effects. I also want to add, that when the Pirates of the Caribbean trailer came on, the entire 500 seat theater began clapping and yelling. May 25, the real king of summer will open.

A very fun, entertaining movie. My opinion seems to be in the minority, but I felt that this was quite a bit better than the first film, just not quite as good as the excellent second film (the best superhero movie ever made, IMO). The acting was excellent around (James Franco surprised the hell out of me by being damn good, Thomas Hayden Church and Topher Grace were very good too- they just needed more screentime), the action scenes were well-staged, and the "Evil Peter" scenes were hilarious. I can't wait to see it again. A-

Hm... I enjoyed it.
I liked it just as much as the first, so a B/B+.

It sure wasn't X3, thankfully.

hahaha

so i ACTUALLY saw it now.

The most entertaining film of the year ... cause m friend and i laughed through it.

but for my honest opinion.

I think if someone was to sit down and look through the 2 hours and 30 minutes, somewhere in there is a great spiderman film. It requires to editing and minimal modifications. however, it does require a lot to be removed. a lot of cheesy dialogues (like from Harry),stupid scenes (the overdancing around from Peter), the extras who just couldn't act (OMG!! Spidey!! Look!!), the WTF moments (the entire channel 6 news media team and a giant sized american flag showing out of no where) and more than anything, we all admit spiderman is the most popular superhero right now but please ... don't try to be a supermanish icon. because no one .. no one will ever have that. so stop trying to be "OH MY GOD!!! Spiderman .. lets everyone clap .. look up in the sky ... stare in awe ..." because thats reserved for one character, as unpopular as he may have become.

Having said all this, I think Sony and Marvel are sitting on a potential spin off goldmine here. They have to desperately create a movie on this BUTLER character. Where the fuck did he come from. Everytime, i kept expecting Harry to say "Thanks for the advice and shit but who the fuck are you!!". and not just who the hell is he and where he came from; the damn man kept appearing out of thin air in every scene. and the passion with which he proclaimed his love for harry's dad. why the hell did he didn't tell him all these years what really happened!! oh wait .. he just appeared out of thin air!! the butler was great. after leaving the movie, my friend and i were lying on the street with tears in our eyes laughing over the whole butler thing. a spin off is in order!

also, is it just me or is every person in New York completely useless. Poor spidey is getting beat up and a cop doesn't even fire a shot.

A tour through the ridiculous shit in this movie

Sandman is created because as he is running from the cops, he randomly jumps into a hole that just so happens to be the testing site of a "demoleculizing" machine, and that's it, no further explanation towards what the hell a demoleculizing machine is.

Peter, while being in love with MJ and ready to propose to her, flys up as Spiderman during his parade and makes out with Gwen for no apparant reason. She still goes out to dinner with him that night, not entirely upset until she finds out he knows the girl.

Mary Jane is talented enough to make it through the auditions on tough as shit broadway, but is fired after one show because she's apparantley the worst actress on earth. What?

Harry after turning evil, creates a master plan. First, find Mary Jane and tell that if she doesn't break up with Peter, he'll kill him. Instead of just telling Peter and letting Spiderman fight him, or telling him in secret of Harry's plan, Mary Jane actually breaks up with him. Harry doesn't go any further with this plan.

Peter confronts Harry and blows up his face. At that point he goes through an entire crazy emo stage for apparantley days, through all this time Harry doesn't come back to seek revenge, he doesn't keep fighting. He stays in his house until Peter finds him again and the butler thing happens(and yes, what the fuck is with the butler?)

Peter killed Harry's father years ago, and he still hasn't told Mary Jane. I don't think he ever tells her. I don't think he tells her that the Goblin was Norman Osborn. Some relationship.

Venom is defeated by yes, the sound of steel bars clinging together.

As a whole, I definitley agree with bABA that there was some good moments and potential in this movie. For one, I like the direction Raimi attempted to take in this movie, where instead of a singular villain storyline, it's a mass ensemble of characters, in more of a character development approach, everyone advancing at once. The scenes with Eddie Brock are good, in particular right after Brock gets fired and sees Peter with Gwen, that was filmed well. Sandman has nice action moments. The acting is overall decent, and the movie can be entertaining. As well, I feel this is the best movie for Mary-Jane in the series, it's the first time where you actually care a bit for her character when she's feeling lesser and less satisfied with herself next to Spiderman, they could've really built on that in this film, it'd be a viable reason to be upset with the relationship. This is the first time she's more than the helpless female support and trophy girlfriend.

However, there are just sooooo many things wrong with this movie. Characters do shit for no reason(see: Peter kissing Gwen), there are far too many coincidences, scenes get way too random and laughable for their own good, and there's serious editing issues. Like... the scene where Peter has the marriage talk with Aunt May. That scene ends, and then like 5 seconds later, he's on the street and Harry jumps him. No build-up of walking to his house in the town, no Harry watching and waiting to pounce him, it goes straight from Aunt May to a fight. When they showed that 7 minute clip, I thought it was 2 seperate clips put together, I didn't think it all ran in a sequence like that.

Then, the villains. I understand an ensemble batch of characters, but Raimi handles it terribly. It's like instead of forming a storyline for this film, Raimi took villain by villain and scene by scene, and just went "Ok, we'll have a Sandman scene, followed by an MJ scene, followed by Harry, followed by Brock, followed by Gwen, then we'll go back to Sandman, then we'll show the symboite, then we'll go back to MJ".. Raimi hasn't made the leap to put these storylines together as one, as a result it just feels disjointed. In particular with the 3 villains, there were periods in time where each one, Harry, Sandman, Brock, would completley disappear for 20-30 minutes, that happened to them a couple times each. These storylines just didn't run simaltaneously. Then there's the last scene, I mean Sandman's apology followed by Harry's death, it was too much disbelievability and cheese to take, and I ended up chuckling. I also agree with the lack of closure comment, it just... ends.

Overall, there was some moments where I enjoyed myself. The emo Peter stage was so out there that I found it to be entertaining, and I thought MJ, Harry, and Brock had justice done to them. But for the most part, it's a couple good things wrapped in far too many bad ones. Farrrr too many.

C-

Talk about the SHIT SHIT extras...

Did anyone see the scene where Spiderman was flying in to receive the keys to the city for saving Gwen....and everyone was on their feet praising.....there's this lady on the stage who shook her head or whatever the fuck she was doing and overeacted....i mean it stood out like sore thumb and i swear everyone in the cinema was like SHIT acting...

...and the towards the end when the crowd was clapping when Spiderman comes to rescue the day....ewwww.....

These little things bugged me......

But let's not forget the CHEEZIEST of all scenes....the one where he flew into the giant American flag.....i swear, everyone's bubbles was bursting.....they've used the same shit like 3 movies now and I don't know how America responds to that sort of partiotism but here in Australia, it was so cringe worthy.

But i still loved the movie, A+

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the flag. It's just a huge flag... flying the middle of the city... and Spiderman just happens to fly in front of it in a patriotic pose. So random and ridiculous it's funny.

I also forgot the crane. A giant crane in the middle of the city on a whim goes uncontrollable and destroys half a street and pretty much an entire building. They aren't even trying with accidents to save people from anymore.

But seriously... Why the fuck did Peter kiss Gwen during the parade? Some of the other stuff like the demoleculizing machine and MJ getting fired is just plain stupid, but the kiss makes no sense at all... Peter is about to propose, and he does that in front of her, WHAT?. They don't even try to explain it. It's not even a obvious plot hole, it's just a complete lack of logic.