Dude, I'm BKB.. I don't get soar and why?? Cause I know I'm hung like a horse and proud of it with nothing to prove to anyone.. My Penis should have MAN OF STEEL Tattooed on it.. Oh and get your ass to the movie and see this.. It is rather shocking that probably the #1 SUPERMAN fan on this site hasn't even made it to see this movie yet..

hung like a horse....................BWAHAHAHAHA betya 20 bones i gotta bigger dick then yall

yall=bkb can you beat 8 1/2? if you can and your white, well know your lying.

Maybe he was just planning ahead for global warming...

Routh is the new metrosexual Superman, and the guy can't act - that's why they barely gave him any lines. But he does do a fair Christopher Reeve imitation and poses pretty...

this thread better get back on topic again else there will be some complaints sent out. this goes for both bkb and excel. no more fighting out of you 2

Wow, Superman REturns is getting killed over at IMDB. I think the legs for this film will be very similar to MR. It will have a good opening, but it will drop like a stone afterwards.

The flying sequences in Superman Returns are simply amazing. Technology has come a long way since Neo looked pretty fake flying in the Matrix movies. The space shuttle sequence was one of the best action sequences I have ever seen. That only bad part is that there are no more great action scenes in the movie. I thought the ending was anticlimatic and far to easy for Superman to get rid of the grwing island. But overall, it was a very enjoyable summer film with amazing SFX and I hope they make another one with more great action sequences like the space shuttle one.

B+

Kind makes you remember Superman flying back time. Thats why I like the 2nd the most, because once it gave the plot, it didnt have an overly elaborate end, just a nasty and brilliant trick by superman.

I love superman 2, but i still wonder where the fuck that big plastic S rapper came out of, thats one of the most wtf moments ever in film.
lol!

Right, maybe the fact that I had *zero* anticipation for this (as in I-don't-give-a-crap-about-any-superhero-movies) had something to do with it, but I thoroughly enjoyed myself. Great time, quality production, and quite enthralling. Makeshift, you bring up some interesting criticisms.... some I do agree with (the film did drag and was somewhat anti-climatic) but I'm not bothered. I'd give it a strong B+/A- and I'd say its the best film I've seen this summer.

Well, Richard Lester may nto be the director that Donner is, but Superman II is a fantastic film and he has to be at least partly responsible for it.

Oh my.

I wish more threads were like this one.

I watched it Tuesday night at the local philly IMAX.

Not as good as I hoped but a solid start.

B

Did you see it at that IMAX that is inside of a museum?

Well I went to see SR last night. I must say I'm having a hard time grading this film. As I left the theater I felt like something just wasn't right and I knew what it was... This film should've followed in the footsteps of Batman Begins and started the series over again. A fresh new start and retelling of the story for todays youth. My teenage daughter thought it was just 'ok' and her reason was that she just didn't understand all of it. She never had seen the originals and I guess I didn't explain enough to her before going last night... Much of the film borrowed from the original, heck the plot with Lex and his realestate felt copied. I kept noticing similarities between them. The flight with Lois through the city. Kitty and Miss Teschmacher both feeling attracted/sorry for Superman. I guess I felt that Singer would have done better just restarting the series....Now, what did grab me??? Routh! I think he was the perfect choice. Now BKB has touted that no one could fill Reeves shoes, and hey I was there at the same time growing up so I agree to an extent. But that was then and this is now. They're not Reeves shoes to fill anymore and they fit Routh to a tee. Physically lets not kid ourselves Routh is in much better shape the Reeve. I think both were equal in acting. Revee did have a more chiseled face but Routh and the better physique. I think Routh (or Singer new how to) had a more natural feel for the powers of Superman. His motions looked more fluid and gentle... I think it goes without saying that the effects were great. Again you just couldn't do justice to the character back in '78' with the technology of the time. I also like the way Singer threw in references to the gods. The piece of art work on the wall of the ship. Superman catching the Daily Bugles globe reminded me of Atlas with the world on his shoulders. As he looked down at earth from the edge of space, listening, watching, as if it was his to protect and care for... I think Bosworth was miscast. She just hit me as a little too young. She did a fine job but just never felt right. I gotta say I never liked Kidder either. Between her scratch voice and 'ok' looks I felt Superman just deserved better (lol)... Luther,,,Spacey was great, better then Hackman who also did a very good job. I think his crazy side was just more vicious then Hackmans and I liked that... I liked the twist with his son, it opens up the doors for anything down the road.

So, where does this all leave me? I'm leaning toward a B, B+. I think if Singer just didn't shit around and made this a totally new Superman from the start it could have easily been an A. Donner told the better story, it was after all a beginning. No matter how I look at it I'm glad to see that Superman is back. My opinions to the side it was a solid restart to a classic hero. I think the story Singer told will lead to bigger and better things in the next film....Its gonna go up, up and away from here.

For reference, a few of my rankings of other superhero films

Batman Begins A
Superman 2 A-
Spiderman 2 B+
Superman B+
Superman returns B/B+
Spiderman B/B+
X2 B
X-Men B-
Batman B-
Batman returns C
Hulk C-/D+

See it on 35mm. Honestly, the IMAX, from what I've seen, worsens the SFX.

I saw it for a second time, this time in IMAX 3D - only because I'm a madfan for IMAX 3D and had to see it's first use in a mainstream live action film, not because of Superman Returns.

And I agree with sunnier - the IMAX, though nice for backgrounds, did make some of the FX look fake or misaligned. Certainly not worth going out of your way to see. Also, the fact that it's only used for 20 of the 153 minutes is quite distracting. Little icons flash up on the screen signalling you to either put on or take off your glasses. The 20 minutes was divided up into 5 segments in the movie, and it really pulls you out of the story. In Polar Express, the last feature length IMAX 3D movie I saw you forget your wearing the glasses after a while when wearing them continuously for the whole show.

The trailers for the three upcoming IMAX 3D animated movies looked much, much better (3D-wise) than SR - (ie: The Ant Bully, Open Season, & Happy Feet - BTW, that Happy Feet has gotten an ecstatic crowd reaction after both the different trailers I've seen - it's gonna be big!)

As to Superman Returns - it was even more boring the second time. I'm lowering my rating to:

2 out of 5.

saw it today. wow. loved it.

the one thing that preturbed me was they heavily edited down the earthquake to make room for the action on new krypton, which i found less exciting. that said, routh was incredible. bosworth was amazing. lexwas great. but marsden, posey, hunting, n the kid all held their own if not stole their scenes. the kid was so cool!

King of Prussia or Franklin Institute?!

The movie is a fine return for the Man of Steel. The performances are good but for Spacey who turns in a poor performance. May be the fact Lex is a very poor villain is the reason. I loved the scene in the kids' bedroom and outside with Lois at the end. Action scenes are very good. The score which pays homage to the original is quite good.

A-

my fav scene was the opening credits. those were easily the best credit sequence a big movie has had in a long time. routh was really good; i cannot believe hpow good he was with the drama, especially at the end. thje kid was kid too. hell everybody was good. bosworthhad great chemistry with both routh and marsden, making the relationships much more believeable.

I saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory at Franklin, heh.