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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
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They said the same thing when radio was invented, and people had an alternative to reading or social interaction. Last I checked, our grandparents grew up just fine.
The younger generation acts differently from us as a result of their environment; what the effects are, let's judge by what they accomplish as adults.
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
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For the record, I think youth now is more intelligent and more on the ball in relation to the rest of the world than ever before. With the computer age, kids just want to know stuff much earlier, and our brains are on a new level. Just 10 years ago looking at movie tastes, we would've been satisfied with plenty explosions and a greenscreen tornado, they blew us away. But now, we as a whole want more. We want Borat, ripping apart America's core. We want a storyline to our action movies like Bourne, over a boat getting smashed by title waves. We want shows or movies were can dissect and discuss in length on the internet, we want depth... I don't think any generation has had the intelligence that ours has, and it'll be interesting to see in 20 years where the world is because of that.
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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dolcevita wrote: I must be the only one that agrees with Mav's short attention span comment. On the other hand, I also agree with mdana that doctors push pills too quickly.
All they need to do is recommend not staring at scenes (tv or computer) all day. Its even ruined my attention span. Everytime I need to concentrate on something I print it out in full and get as far away from any monitor as possible.
The American Pediatrics Association already recommended children under the age of three get exposed to zero hours of screen time per week, and that number is only going to go up. Its a completely different way of taking in information that lends itself towards skimming, clicking, or (in the case ot tv) just taking information in passivle at the rate and with the inflection already pre-dictated.
Doctors who call this new syndrome ADD are idiots, because it isn't. And yes, drug companies encourage it. But to say people today (of all ages) don't respond to "noise" and aren't exposed to more noise than previously is to give the reach of the internet little service. The amount of information at our fingertips is the greatest positve. The format and way inwhich we take it in, I believe, is the negative aspect.
Spend two minute in a public library and you'll understand how different people's attention spans are that grew up from age two on a computer screen than people who were exposed for the first time to it at 50. If I were a teacher, I would force my children to hand write papers until 5th grade before introducing them to computers, and even then I'd make them hand-write the rough draft and type/edit the final copy only. people should only get this much screentime by the time they hit high school (13ish) because I think it gets handled differently after one has had a sound foundation in slower processes of aquiring and synthesizing information before then.
Anyways....my two cents. Flame away!
First female president speaking?????
Whatever....I saw Borat today and I give i a 8.5/10. Even I think the movie is not perfect I think you should honour the movie for the way it appears on screen. There have been a lot of scenes I had to laugh hard. Its way more comedy than social critique but wayne. If you want to see just some funny stuff you should try that movie. Dont take it too seriously.....If you do so you will certainly not enjoy it. Big respect for the actors for their full body dedication.
8.5/10
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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I don't understand why this was unstickied when it's still the #1 movie and pulled in almost $30M this past weekend, but I'm not a mod anymore...
For the record, Pamela Anderson confessed she was in on the joke:
Yahoo News wrote: In another scene in the film, former "Baywatch" babe Pamela Anderson was attacked by Borat's alter ego at a book signing, and he later chased her through a parking lot.
Did she learn of his antics in advance? Yep, claims Anderson.
"I love Borat ... Of course (Sacha) and I planned this years ago," she wrote in a recent post on her Web site. "And it turned out perfect  I'm so happy for him."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_ ... _s_victims
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:03 pm |
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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Well I guess when she wouldnt have been....Borat would have had a bloody nose and some teeth loose after a few secs after the "bag".
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:06 pm |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 15310 Location: Slumming at KJ
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Shack wrote: For the record, I think youth now is more intelligent and more on the ball in relation to the rest of the world than ever before. With the computer age, kids just want to know stuff much earlier, and our brains are on a new level. Just 10 years ago looking at movie tastes, we would've been satisfied with plenty explosions and a greenscreen tornado, they blew us away. But now, we as a whole want more. We want Borat, ripping apart America's core. We want a storyline to our action movies like Bourne, over a boat getting smashed by title waves. We want shows or movies were can dissect and discuss in length on the internet, we want depth... I don't think any generation has had the intelligence that ours has, and it'll be interesting to see in 20 years where the world is because of that.
Shack, your generation lacks one essential ingredient of intelligence, and that is respect for the older generation. You guys don't realize that we have been there and that we are much more on the ball than you are. When I was your age, I understood that there was no substitute for experience, and so did the youth of my generation and the generation before. Your generation, and that comes through loud and clear in your posts, thinks it knows everything. We read books and had the same thirst for knowledge and that info was available to us. All the computer does is cater to laziness. It's not like we were ignorant before microsoft, and it's ignorant to even think such a thing. I was there and I am here now. You didn't experience then, so how can you possibly think you know it better than somebody who was? That is the main problem facing your generation.
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:13 pm |
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dolcevita
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm Posts: 16061 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Oh and Shack, sorry if I came across as aggressive. I didn't ever intend to equate intelligence and attention span. You are right that youth today as is intelligent as every other generation, and definately has as complex, if not more complex tastes.
Its the attention span and screentime that worries me, and the way current surveys of high level university students search habits have been key-word search googlized. Its the cut 'n paste habits of school children I observe everyday, etc, etc.
Anyways, back to Borat!
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:29 pm |
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zennier
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Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:38 pm Posts: 10316 Location: berkeley
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Mavv, I don't think that problem is exclusive to this generation.  We might be less tolerant of age, yes. Why not? You tend to be too conservative and condescending. Who wants that?
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:17 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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That's the best acting Pamela has ever done!
It doesn't really take away from the joke, I guess... but it was cooler thinking Pamela had no clue who Borat was.
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:12 pm |
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mdana
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Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:07 pm Posts: 3004
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Pam had to be in on the joke, because security would have jumped him in the store. Anyone see how Sen. Allen's security team assaulted that guy for asking a question? If it had not been staged they would have had him on the ground as soon as he started touching her.
In regards to Hito's and Mav's points. They stated the same thing about us when MTV and videos took off in the early 80's.
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:21 pm |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:03 am Posts: 15310 Location: Slumming at KJ
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zennier wrote: Mavv, I don't think that problem is exclusive to this generation.  We might be less tolerant of age, yes. Why not? You tend to be too conservative and condescending. Who wants that?
Zach, you need to remove that chip from your shoulder, dude. You've acted like this ever since you couldn't handle my views on bi-sexuality. You also need to realize you don't know everything. I am serious, when you are on your own for about 10 years, you will understand how little you know about life right now, while trying to convince me that you know better. It's not condescending, it's a fact. When I was your age, I never took offense to not knowing as much as somebody more experienced, even if they told me. I listened. I learned. I certainly never talked disrespectful to my elders the way you do. Your generation certainly has large computer balls, but let's face it, if we were face to face, you wouldn't have given me attitude one time.
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:31 pm |
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zennier
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Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:38 pm Posts: 10316 Location: berkeley
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Maverikk wrote: zennier wrote: Mavv, I don't think that problem is exclusive to this generation.  We might be less tolerant of age, yes. Why not? You tend to be too conservative and condescending. Who wants that? Zach, you need to remove that chip from your shoulder, dude. You've acted like this ever since you couldn't handle my views on bi-sexuality. You also need to realize you don't know everything. I am serious, when you are on your own for about 10 years, you will understand how little you know about life right now, while trying to convince me that you know better. It's not condescending, it's a fact. When I was your age, I never took offense to not knowing as much as somebody more experienced, even if they told me. I listened. I learned. I certainly never talked disrespectful to my elders the way you do. Your generation certainly has large computer balls, but let's face it, if we were face to face, you wouldn't have given me attitude one time.
Oh, it isn't that I (or anyone else, for that matter) doesn't take kindly to advice from mature adults, it's that we could care less about what an immature, condescending adult has to say about "us" and how this person feels their age offers them divine wisdom.
Seriously, I really wish you would get over yourself.
I wouldn't give you that attitude?
I didn't come in here to start a fight, but boy are you barking up the wrong tree with your plea for respect. You can earn it by cutting the self-righteousness, that's for sure. Your age doesn't secure an ounce of respect from me - your character does. So much for the stereotype, huh?
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:53 pm |
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Maverikk
Award Winning Bastard
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zennier wrote: Oh, it isn't that I (or anyone else, for that matter) doesn't take kindly to advice from mature adults, it's that we could care less about what an immature, condescending adult has to say about "us" and how this person feels their age offers them divine wisdom. Seriously, I really wish you would get over yourself. I wouldn't give you that attitude? I didn't come in here to start a fight, but boy are you barking up the wrong tree with your plea for respect. You can earn it by cutting the self-righteousness, that's for sure. Your age doesn't secure an ounce of respect from me - your character does. So much for the stereotype, huh?
Again, as I said, you don't need to give advise to anyone. You are wet behind the ears and don't understand the world yet. You sound ridiculous trying to teach a grown man who has been on his own almost as long as you've been born.
You don't know my character. This is exactly my point, how your generation thinks it knows everything when you don't. That's is a PERFECT example of the know it all attitude that you have. You wouldn't be telling me any of that to my face, so don't be brave behind the computer. I don't care enough about you to want your respect, so maybe it's YOU who needs to get over yourself. 
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dolcevita
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:24 pm Posts: 16061 Location: The Damage Control Table
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Hey Zennier. Did you get your surprise DVD yet? You we should have a movie night when you get it, and stick to talking about the good stuff. Save your energy for a movie I'm touting (you'll see) Screw Borat! 
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:17 pm |
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zennier
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Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:38 pm Posts: 10316 Location: berkeley
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dolcevita wrote: Hey Zennier. Did you get your surprise DVD yet? You we should have a movie night when you get it, and stick to talking about the good stuff. Save your energy for a movie I'm touting (you'll see) Screw Borat! 
*pokes head out of door* No, no mail yet. Now I'm sort of giddy. I wonder what you've gotten me? Does getluv know? I can go coax it out of him, I'm sure. 
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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Libs
Sbil
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"Very nice, how much?"
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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Maverikk wrote: Again, as I said, you don't need to give advise to anyone. You are wet behind the ears and don't understand the world yet. You sound ridiculous trying to teach a grown man who has been on his own almost as long as you've been born. You don't know my character. This is exactly my point, how your generation thinks it knows everything when you don't. That's is a PERFECT example of the know it all attitude that you have. You wouldn't be telling me any of that to my face, so don't be brave behind the computer. I don't care enough about you to want your respect, so maybe it's YOU who needs to get over yourself. 
"You don't know my character"
A person's character is a function of how he presents yourself, the accumulation of impressions, reactions, etc. On this forum, your character comes off as self-righteous, end of story. And you, in full character, as one of the most arrogant people under age 60 I have met, shall call that "hot air."
I don't respect you any more than you respect me, and good riddance. A mature opinion spoken from experience is always welcome - I am one of the most respectful of elders you'd find in Gen Y - but you're about as mature on these boards as the interns at my office. You think you're the shit just because you're closer to retirement. Wake up. The internet doesn't give a crap based on seniority alone, so you'd do better to leave the grandfather attitude at home.
You're prickly when challenged, we all know. Your type is the same all over - I know well, my father was one. They think everybody is either a moron or too old to be a moron. Funny dichotomy. You'll sit there fuming, how somebody two decades younger dares question divine authority. Yadda yadda. Nobody has a problem with you, they have a problem with how you constantly have a problem with them. No need to reply, we all know your reply, and I ain't comin' back.
Now go have yourself a nice day, and no hard feelings! 
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Dkmuto
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I'm the last person in the world to see it, but I thought it was, yes, the best comedy I've seen in a while.
Hysterical.
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insomniacdude
I just lost the game
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 5868
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Funniest movie ever. A-.
EDIT: Let me rephrase.
Borat made me laugh more than any other movie I've ever seen.....A-
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Hilarious. Funniest movie of the year so far. Not the funniest ever though.
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
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Funniest movie of the Decade. And the wrestling/69 scene was the first scene to make me cry laughter since I was young, and I NEVER cried that hard.
And yes, that scene where he throws the suitcase and the chicken squawks. . .awesome.
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:57 pm |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
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B+/A-
Some very memorable scenes for sure. Still some parts are very hit/miss. But the gypsy/Jew stuff is incredibly hilarious.
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:38 pm |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23376 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Grade : B/B+
Its a constantly funny film - but somehow it left me dissapointed. Perhaps its all this "funniest film ever" talk which it is definitely..... NOT!!  Its funny - but I felt some of the elements got old and repetitive.
What I loved - the Pamela scene - i just couldnt believe he put the sack over her and she played off it well. The gypsy scene, everything with the chicken  , the Jewish house (poison sandwhich) and probably my favourite part of the film - the dinner scene which was great and unscripted. I thought they were pretty tolerant of him - until the ho.oker offcourse!! These were great moments and their were many more - ie. the feminists, jokes about his brother and sister etc.
I actually found the wrestling scened to be disgusting and not all that funny at all. The first 30 seconds were alright but it got old quick.
My friends all felt the same - liked it but felt a bit flat afterwards.
Fox were very canny in restricting the initial opening weekend to 800 theatres and creating an event. As had it opened wide it wouldnt have had the same impact and opened big but had an average hold afterwards.
Still overall funny film that perhaps didnt meet my expectations but still worth seeing.
BTW - had an old couple (in their 70s) infront of me and they sat their stone faced. The husband chuckled a few times but his wife was disgusted beyond belief and kept looking at his reaction after certain scenes. He just looked straight ahead and tried not to chuckle 
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
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I think people have misinterpreted the college kids scene. Because if you notice Sasha's face, he looks quite shocked at what they're saying. He sort of gives this, "The jokes on you, you wankers" sort of look. This is the only part of the movie, where it seems he broke out of character.
Pamela Anderson's acting is award worthy. Seriously!
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