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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
I just hope it's restricted experiment with Mulan alone. And now I wish D+ doesn't release here anytime soon lol.
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Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:16 pm |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
It seems part of Mulan was filmed in Xinjiang with the help of the authorities there. The Chinese government has set up "re-education" camps in the region to round up and indoctrinate hundreds of thousands of people in the Ughur community, a blatant violation of human rights.
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Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:33 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21641 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
I was actually surprised that Disney chose not to have the Eddie Murphy sidekick role in the live action film because of China. I never saw the animated one, but that's the only thing I ever heard about (especially when it was Murphy re emerging as a box office star as a family figure.
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:20 am |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:51 pm Posts: 11637
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Rumor has it Mulan hasn't done that well on Disney +. I am not really surprised. 30 bucks for a movie is hard to justify. And I just don't see it as a true family film. It looks too gritty for most families.
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:55 am |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
If true, probably shouldn't have announced just days before its release that it'd be free for Disney+ subscribers in December. A good number of people were likely willing to wait at that point.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:59 am |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23782 Location: Classified
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Mulan also might be flopping in China? That would be wonderful. Sorry Mulan, but I’m willing to sacrifice you to break the chain of the film industry bowing to our Chinese overlords.
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:23 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18878 Location: San Diego
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Mulan underwhelming at China would be pretty hilarious considering the lengths they made for it to try and "cater" to their audience. I didn't think the movie was bad but pretty forgettable.
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:03 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Mulan should do well in China even if not record breaking numbers. As pe#1 mentioned Disney went above and beyond to make it look like a Chinese movie. I expect at least $100m total from China.
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:23 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
It opened less than expected last weekend, and if it has usual legs in the market, would miss $100 million. But I don't know how films are performing in the market right now, so maybe it can leg it to $100 million?
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:13 pm |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Has Mulan opened in China?
It did underperform in neighboring Taiwan with $1.2m, less than Tenet's second weekend.
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:20 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
...ignore my post. I thought it opened to $30 million, but that was Tenet.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:25 pm |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:50 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 18878 Location: San Diego
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Welp looks like Mulan isn't even gonna do $30m OW at China lol yikes!
Truly a bizarre release.
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:22 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Looks like it was hammered by a triple whammy.
>Potential losses from COVID concerns. >Piracy problems by opening too late in a piracy-prone market. >Government issuing orders for news outlets not to cover the film's release due to Xinjiang backlash.
And audience reception seems mixed at best. If it's not doing well on Disney+ as speculated, Disney is taking a serious loss on the film. Probably near record levels because the marketing costs have to be pretty significant as it was heavily marketed before the pandemic delayed it unlike Tenet or Wonder Woman, for instance.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:43 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 23782 Location: Classified
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Disney bent over so far to please China on this one and the Chinese end up rejecting it all the same. Chinese libs (in secret of course) don't like all the ties to CCP and Xinjiang and Chinese conservatives also seem to think its too much of a westernized approach to their culture.
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:58 pm |
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6665
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Corpse wrote: >Government issuing orders for news outlets not to cover the film's release due to Xinjiang backlash.
It seems Beijing did not want Chinese people to know about the Xinjiang camps. That ran counter to the proud attitude Chinese officials often project to the outside world that the government did nothing wrong with the detention of the Uyghurs. It's a little surprising Beijing did not double down and reward Mulan by giving it an extra marketing push.
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:53 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
That is going to be disastrous for not only Mulan but overall movie going business. I assumed that Mulan will bring back excitement to BO tracking.
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:20 pm |
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Cynosure
The Dark Knight
Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:30 am Posts: 760
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Honestly, Disney kind of deserves this. These live-action remakes have been the bottom of the barrel in terms of creativity.
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Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:46 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
They are "remakes" what would you expect out of them?
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Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:10 am |
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Cynosure
The Dark Knight
Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:30 am Posts: 760
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Not to be remade at all.
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Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:00 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Then you are not the target audience. They are making big money for the studio so clearly there is an audience for these kind of movies.
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Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:34 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
https://screenrant.com/mulan-tenet-movi ... rison/amp/Looks like the updated estimates for first 12 days of Mulan are now $62m-$93m in U.S. The high end of that number roughly translates to $186m BO figure. In addition to the $37m+ OS theatrical release numbers I expect OS PVOD numbers to at least match the $93m mark and while those are not huge numbers I think Disney should make back 70-80% of their investment.
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:22 am |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20346 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Seems like Soul has a chance to beat Onward but those will be the only 2 theatrical Disney films released lol.
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:10 am |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37152 Location: The Graveyard
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
Onward or Soul will become the first animated film since Toy Story 3, 10-years ago, to be Disney's highest-grossing film of the year.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:49 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 20346 Location: Where they shot Knock at the Cabin
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Re: Disney's 2020 - what will be their biggest movie?
And Onward wins lol.
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Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:51 pm |
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