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I think Lucas may have actually started the prequel trend with Temple of Doom rather than the Phantom Menace, just to note.

Anyway, I can think of maybe a dozen series without any research. You can mention any others you know of or remember. I’m not really sure of older series before the summer blockbuster season began during Lucas’s era. Obviously he normalized prequels, and they are only more frequent now because of Hollywood’s franchise trends.

Indiana Jones
Star Wars
The Mummy
Hannibal Lecter
Underworld
X-Men
Harry Potter
Lord of the Rings
Transformers
Hunger Games
A Quiet Place

There might be others that I’m forgetting at the moment.


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Hmm, I'd imagine there would be way more than 12 franchises that have a prequel....

Also looking at the list, I guess it's a mixed bag on how they performed, generally it seems disappointing compared with the original film, but still overall money making.

Sequels tend to have a better track record than prequels though I feel.


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While there may have been others before it starting with Godfather II's half prequel, the Star Wars prequels were such a big deal that it felt like it really popularized the format from then on.

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The Hobbit trilogy

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DP07 wrote:
I think Lucas may have actually started the prequel trend with Temple of Doom rather than the Phantom Menace, just to note.


lol, fifteen years for a trend to pick up momentum.

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Well I agree on temple of doom, that was more of just a nod to serials or even westerns that just picked different times in the old days.

Others I can think of. Prometheus, exorcist, mad max, planet of apes, minions, x-men, casino royale, would terminator salvation technically be a prequel? Jack Ryan, kingsman, Hannibal, Annabelle, Texas chainsaw, dumb and dumber, plus a lot of sequels like to add in time travel now to add prequel elements like men in black, Austin powers, shrek, etc.

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Thegun wrote:
would terminator salvation technically be a prequel?


Technically, loosely, metaphorically, literally, figuratively, everythingly-speaking...no.

The movie is set in 2018. Movies before it were set in 1984, 1995, and 2004. And technically human time travel does not exist, so that angle has no merit.

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Thegun wrote:
Would terminator salvation technically be a prequel?


It's both a sequel and prequel, but it feels like a spiritual prequel to me.

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The time I remember term prequel wS Butch & Sundance: the early days.

With their convoluted timelime Fast& Furious is both sequel to 2Fast 2 Furious and a prequel to Toyko Drift.


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Godfather Part II is as much a prequel as it is a sequel.

Isn’t the odyssey or the Iliad the first example, also one of the wardrobe books was a prequel as well.

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Thegun wrote:
Godfather Part II is as much a prequel as it is a sequel.

Isn’t the odyssey or the Iliad the first example, also one of the wardrobe books was a prequel as well.


Think that's the just an original/sequel relationship. I can't find any books older than the Narnia one you mentioned, but it looks like Shakespeare prequel'd like George RR Martin filling in the Targaryen backstory after the fact:

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Notably, even the three Henry VI plays were written out of order, and not originally all called “Henry VI.” The first play was probably Henry VI, Part 2, which was first published as a “The Contention,” with Henry VI, Part 3 following and being called “The True Tragedy of Richard Duke of York.” Part 1 was the last to be written, at which point the three plays could be grouped as a trilogy.

This order indicates that Shakespeare and his co-writers created one play, then decided to follow it up, and then finally returned to chart the beginnings of the journey that they had previously spent two plays on. The pattern: “original, sequel, and prequel.” This won’t be the last time Shakespeare did this, returning to a source and covering either end of its story.

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The popularity of Richard III made it easy for Shakespeare’s company to decide to produce more history plays dealing with the same theme, but I am convinced that Richard as a character haunted Shakespeare. Between Richard’s inherently intriguing nature and the fact that Queen Elizabeth I’s old age and childlessness meant a possible return to a dynastic civil war, Shakespeare had a lot to draw him to the events which led to the Wars of the Roses, covered in the Henry VI plays and Richard III.

Shakespeare thus created an entire prequel tetralogy dealing with a different dynastic struggle, which scholars have come to call “the Henriad.” Why they’ve chosen this name is something we’ll return to shortly, but the plays which comprise it are Richard II, Henry IV, Part 1, Henry IV, Part 2, and Henry V.

The plays, all written solely by Shakespeare, follow England as it leaves the era of feudalism and chivalry and enters the world of Machiavellian opportunism, of power-grabs, backstabs, and general ruthlessness. Henry IV deposes his cousin Richard II at the end of the latter’s play, while Henry’s own two plays focus as much on his son, Prince Hal (the future Henry V, and namesake of the Henriad), as they do on the king. All of it culminates in the accession of Hal at the end of Henry IV, Part 2. The following play, Henry V, depicts a large-scale war with France in violent detail, and ends with Henry V marrying Catherine of Valois, mother to Henry V’s son, Henry VI. As Henry VI, Part 1 opens with the unexpected death of Henry V, Shakespeare has now caught up to, and connected with, his older work, like a 16th-century George Lucas at the end of Revenge of the Sith.


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Well I agree on temple of doom, that was more of just a nod to serials or even westerns that just picked different times in the old days.

Others I can think of. Prometheus, exorcist, mad max, planet of apes, minions, x-men, casino royale, would terminator salvation technically be a prequel? Jack Ryan, kingsman, Hannibal, Annabelle, Texas chainsaw, dumb and dumber, plus a lot of sequels like to add in time travel now to add prequel elements like men in black, Austin powers, shrek, etc.


Since I’d consider “Time Travel” to be its own genre, or sub-genre, I wouldn’t consider a time travel franchise film to exactly be a “prequel” unless the entire film takes place prior to its predecessor, or is part of a series prequel reboot, like X-men, and Days of Future Past.


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Also, if every time travel movie or sequel were also to be considered a prequel, you’d probably have to include “The Matrix” series as well. At least as far as I’m concerned, because there were never conclusive narrative answers about the “timeline” or “reality” of “The Matrix”. So, it remains open to interpretation and plot developments or twists.


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DP07 wrote:
I think Lucas may have actually started the prequel trend with Temple of Doom rather than the Phantom Menace, just to note.


lol, fifteen years for a trend to pick up momentum.


Did it pick up momentum? That’s just George Lucas. The Star Wars prequels didn’t gain momentum either, they depended on the goodwill, brand name, intellectual property from the original trilogy, plus the attention and publicity that brought.


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It was gutsy to do the prequels though. Ford was right off of Air Force one and the special editions were huge, all 3 were in the top 10 one weekend. Imagine if Lucas did a sequel trilogy it would have been insanity. Really the biggest hurdle would have been getting Ford to return., and they could have thrown him 75 million just for the first one. I’m assuming everyone was on board and ford said no

I’m sure every meeting was why the fuck would you not do a sequel? And they gave him three movies, an extreme critical misfire that makes a billion dollars

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Didn’t he finance them himself? Or through lucasfilm etc.? I may have to look it up, but I think the production and marketing were minimal for the studio, besides marketing tie ins. I remember hardly any direct advertising from the studio; even for Attack of the Clones. It was almost all product tie-ins. I think it was entirely a Lucasfilm production, and he just auctioned off distribution for a fee.


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Barrabás wrote:
The Hobbit trilogy


You mean besides the upcoming Rohan movie? I only just saw it on Box Office Mojo. I already referred to the Hobbit, and “Rings of Power”.


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Actually, your post still doesn’t make any sense. Maybe you could say you didn’t read my post or list.


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Prey is a Predator franchise prequel.

Oz the Great and Powerful is a Wizard of Oz prequel.

Cruella is a 101 Dalmations franchise prequel.

Loads of horror franchises now have prequels. Whether it's Orphan: First Kill, The First Omen, or Ouija: Origin of Evil to name a few.

So, yeah, there are way more than twelve franchises to have prequels.

The King's Man, Annabelle: Creation, Exorcist: The Beginning, The Many Saints of Newark, etc. etc.

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