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 Star Wars - Episode IX predictions (12/20/2019) 
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The fact that Palpatine has some role is a massively bigger hook than anything else involving Rey or Kylo.

People will show up more than anything for the links to the original characters and to (presumably) get the answers to all the questions that this trilogy has given rise to. The action scenes at this point are more secondary. Most of the box office of TFA is attributed to nostalgia for the original trilogy.


I agree but that is not enough of a hook compared to let's say Han Solo/Leia or Luke coming back plus its still not a good enough hook to call it a finale. It might loose that boost the other trilogies had if people are coming in to see the original characters. Are there any specific questions that this new trilogy raised other than maybe origins of Rey? (I am not a die-hard SW fan myself so maybe I missed a few things here)


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Do we remember DreamWorks sequels and their oversaturation with TV shows. This could be in the same boat with a new TV show coming just a month before. Even if they end the main trilogy here this isn't the last star wars movie by any means and most people know that. I also have concerns on the hook of this movie. Seeing Kylo and Rey fight it out isn't exciting when we have seen that in last two movies. It's still a Star wars movie so it will open big but I'm not expecting record breaking numbers or even $200m opening from this.


There is no hook in the marketing. "The last Skywalker movie!!" doesn't work when 1) all the original iconic Skywalkers are gone so no one cares about these C-list new characters, Disney basically torpedoed the storyline by killing everyone off and forgetting to put Carrie Fisher into rehab, 2) everyone knows it's BS and they're going to keep pumping them out as long as they make money. Seeing Kylo and Rey fight is zzzzz at this point. No one cares. The rest of the characters are N/A. They haven't properly revealed the Emperor yet so I'm not counting it, but even that seems lame. He already pretty definitively died in Episode VI, bringing him back just reeks of desperation and I think people will sense that.

I wouldn't be surprised at an OW in the $130-$150m range.

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Proud Ryu wrote:
The fact that Palpatine has some role is a massively bigger hook than anything else involving Rey or Kylo.

People will show up more than anything for the links to the original characters and to (presumably) get the answers to all the questions that this trilogy has given rise to. The action scenes at this point are more secondary. Most of the box office of TFA is attributed to nostalgia for the original trilogy.


I agree but that is not enough of a hook compared to let's say Han Solo/Leia or Luke coming back plus its still not a good enough hook to call it a finale. It might loose that boost the other trilogies had if people are coming in to see the original characters. Are there any specific questions that this new trilogy raised other than maybe origins of Rey? (I am not a die-hard SW fan myself so maybe I missed a few things here)


Please, PLEASE tell me what "specific questions" were raised in the OT?

I'd love to know.

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Post Re: Star Wars - Episode IX predictions (12/20/2019)
Yeah I'm also not sure on that though as I mentioned I'm not the biggest fan of SW film series.


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1) I’d be way more excited if Rian Johnson was back.

2) It should be called Rise of the Skywalker. Only one small change in word order but it sounds way better and fits the theme of the other part 3s.

Still should be fine. It’s an episode movie and that makes it must-see. $200M / $650M

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They're rushing things by ending it right now. This isn't the 1980s where horribly underwritten roles are just instantly bought ala THE ORIGINAL Star Wars TRILOGY.

They needed 1 film after THE LAST JEDI but before the finale to clarify and jumpstart things.

Everybody is going to come for this regardless tho

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Hey, blame JJ. He ended TFA with the Luke thing. No way could Rian have just ignored that (even though he kinda did anyway)

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He'd be getting even more death threats if they would've just straight up jumped a few months forward.

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I'm rolling my eyes at you, just letting you know.

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None of those are even valid. Bye!

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Post Re: Star Wars - Episode IX predictions (12/20/2019)
The D23 footage has boosted my confidence in this again. At least as far as this grossing over $600M domestic, but I still see it opening under TLJ. Something close to or around Flava'd's prediction wouldn't surprise me if it ends up being more well liked by the GA or crowd pleasing for the fans.


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cmon.

Theyre going to release a fx-heavy trailer full of nostalgia set to Williams themes and hype will explode again no question.

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for the life of me I don't understand why they decided to have TLJ happen literally RIGHT after TFA. The first two movies take place in one week basically. It's very odd choice for a epic trilogy.

You can debate whether TLJ is good or bad or meh, but it was 100% the wrong story to tell from a commercial level.


yup basically :grrr:

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He got death threats cause of a dumb sequence with Leia, an even dumber subplot on casino planet, and an even dumber subplot with the ship captain not revealing her plan to her people and causing a mutiny.
And its just a coincidence that all the things that Rian did to ruin Star Wars had something to do with the female characters? :P

The thing is, they will all be back and say that Star Wars is great again. That’s the most predictable outcome of all.

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The casino planet has a black dude too. Please don't limit criticism by gender when there's a clear racial issue as well.

all jokes aside, its amusing that woke defenders of TLJ actually think its about gender. Everyone loved Rey getting the lightsaber in TFA. It's one of the best moments in the entire Star Wars saga. Mostly everyone loved Jyn Erso in Rogue One.

The bad writing is cause its bad writing. If Laura Dern's character was actually male, it still be completely dumb. The casino planet isn't bad just cause there's an Asian chick; it's bad because everything about it, from the black dude to Benico Del Toro, is bad.

Now, you can enjoy bad writing. I enjoy the PT and it's 100% badly written. But don't deny it.


Uh this is 100% bullshit. She STILL gets "mary sue" comments TO THIS DAY over that scene/fight.

Also, Dern didn't tell Poe the plan, because he was just a fucking idiot who got demoted.

And again, the casino planet stuff is seen as "bad writing" because it became entirely pointless. It was not bad writing.

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No, it's not bad writing. Because that's what those characters would've done at that time. Sorry you're a chud and just now realizing it.

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Huge stan of TLJ. It actually held better than ESB and AOTC, the other middle movies. I don’t have high expectations for this one though. The franchise has taken a beating lately. At this point I just want the trend to continue of the third Skywalker movie doing better than the second. I’ll be happy with that.

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Saying TLJ is better than ESB is blasphemy.

Calling Rey a Mary Sue has nothing to do with gender. If she was a male doing the exact same thing he would be a Gary Stu.

She is a Mary Sue because she falls into the categorical definition of a Mary Sue.

Mary Sue - a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses.

Rey, wins a lightsaber battle against a trained Sith/Jedi the first time she wields it. Rey is a better pilot than Han Solo of Millennium Falcon almost immediately. Rey literally talks down ("there is still good in him" Luke Skywalker (in reference to the most evil person in the Galaxy Darth Vader))

She is 100% unequivocally a Mary Sue.

And with that said, I love her and her character. But jeez...there is no arguing that.

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No, it's not bad writing. Because that's what those characters would've done at that time. Sorry you're a chud and just now realizing it.


Sorry, you are wrong. It is horrendous writing.

Why would the captain of a ship not tell her whole crew her plan to save them when her best pilot is literally committing mutiny because he thinks the lack of a plan is going to cost them all their lives. Your explanation is that everyone would captain this way? Interesting.

I don't even want to get into the fact that the entire movie didn't even matter until we found out said Captain had a plan all along. The casino scene could have been written out of the movie and had ZERO effect on the plot. That is a tell tale sign of bad writing.

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Saying TLJ is better than ESB is blasphemy.

Calling Rey a Mary Sue has nothing to do with gender. If she was a male doing the exact same thing he would be a Gary Stu.

She is a Mary Sue because she falls into the categorical definition of a Mary Sue.

Mary Sue - a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses.

Rey, wins a lightsaber battle against a trained Sith/Jedi the first time she wields it. Rey is a better pilot than Han Solo of Millennium Falcon almost immediately. Rey literally talks down ("there is still good in him" Luke Skywalker (in reference to the most evil person in the Galaxy Darth Vader))

She is 100% unequivocally a Mary Sue.

And with that said, I love her and her character. But jeez...there is no arguing that.


Y'all are literally the dumbest people alive.
1. She didn't "win" the lightsaber. At best it was a draw, against a severely wounded Kylo Ren.
2. She's not a better pilot. Just showing her flying the falcon doesn't make her a better pilot.
3. She's trying to reason with him.

And 100000% bullshit on if she was a dude this would still be happening. Nobody said a fucking word about Luke Skywalker, a fucking farmer, being the greatest Jedi in the galaxy.

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No, it's not bad writing. Because that's what those characters would've done at that time. Sorry you're a chud and just now realizing it.


Sorry, you are wrong. It is horrendous writing.

Why would the captain of a ship not tell her whole crew her plan to save them when her best pilot is literally committing mutiny because he thinks the lack of a plan is going to cost them all their lives. Your explanation is that everyone would captain this way? Interesting.

I don't even want to get into the fact that the entire movie didn't even matter until we found out said Captain had a plan all along. The casino scene could have been written out of the movie and had ZERO effect on the plot. That is a tell tale sign of bad writing.


WHY would the brand new captain, in a time of crisis, tell her recently demoted/reprimanded fighter pilot, who has NOTHING to do with this plan, what the plan is? That makes no logical sense. Y'all just are rooting for a dickhead because he's hot, and a dude.

Sorry you're fucking bitter as shit that your male hormones couldn't jerk off the whole movie to Luke with his shirt off.

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The Captain's actions were ridiculous. Worst part of the film. I prefer the casino scenes.

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Why? Because he causes a mutiny for no reason because she specifically isn’t telling him her plan. There’s literally no reason NOT to tell him. There’s no value in keeping it a secret.


There's less value in telling a recently disciplined subordinate a secret plan, when he has clearly shown the incapacity to follow orders.

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