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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
Trickling in...THE HOBBIT: THE DESOLATION OF SMAUG: $31.15M Friday (est) / $31.15M Domestic Total / 3,903 Locations / $7,980 Location Avg. A MADEA CHRISTMAS: $5.74M Friday (est) / $5.74M Domestic Total / 2,194 Locations / $2,616 Location Avg. THE HUNGER GAMES: CATCHING FIRE: $4.1M Friday (est) / $347.93M Domestic Total / 3,563 Locations / $1,151 Location Avg. AMERICAN HUSTLE: $210,909 Friday (est) $210,909 Domestic Total / 6 Locations / $35,152 Location Avg.
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
A Madea Christmas' number is fascinating. Around half of the opening day of Madea's Witness Protection last year. Less than Diary of a Black Woman's first day in 1,483 theatres in February 2005.
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
Some more numbers from BOM. Honestly, I think that's solid for The Hobbit. Just like Catching Fire it's on the very high end of early guesstimates, meaning it's probably more backloaded than expected. I think the weekend should break $70 million, and I don't think legs should be much different than the first - maybe a little weaker, but I doubt WB is weeping about making an extra $1 billion from stretching this out to three films. Not as awful as early numbers, but that's still shockingly weak for a holiday-themed Madea movie. Maybe it'll have some stronger than usual legs leading up to Christmas, but still, I thought it would be a much stronger breakout. Heavy drop for Catching Fire, but still decent. It should hold onto theaters over the holidays which will help legs a lot. Great hold for Frozen. Amazing PTA for American Hustle, notsomuch for Saving Mr. Banks, though the awards success for the former and disappointment for the latter is probably the result of that. I'm not quite sure yet how they'll do next weekend.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:10 pm |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
Also, 10% drop for Philomena!! Those Golden Globe nominations probably helped, but it's doing really well right now.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:18 pm |
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TServo2049
The Incredible Hulk
Joined: Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:17 pm Posts: 572
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
I said it before, I'll say it again. No more of this "early Friday numbers" shit, please. They're either way too low, triggering shock and hand-wringing until they are revised up, or they're way too high, triggering shock and hand-wringing once they're revised down.
There really needs to be an embargo on "early Friday" reporting. Can't BO, Deadline, etc. be patient enough to wait for official estimates?
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:31 pm |
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mark66
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Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:41 pm Posts: 13048 Location: Augsburg (2,040 years young)
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
You don't like drama, right?
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:37 pm |
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TServo2049
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
I don't like unnecessary drama of the kind we've been getting recently, which involves people freaking out over inaccurate early Friday reporting.
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Mannyisthebest
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Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8636 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
The early Friday numbers added so much drama to CF, Im3 and TA opening weekend..
I still remember the 58 million Friday for Im3 lol
CF is holding okay but seems like 410 million is the goal now.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:45 pm |
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mark66
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
I like early numbers - but I don't like when people pronounce "it's a lock" or start WWW threads based on early numbers (even Friday numbers are not enough to do so)...
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:47 pm |
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TServo2049
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
mark66 wrote: I like early numbers - but I don't like when people pronounce "it's a lock" or start WWW threads based on early numbers (even Friday numbers are not nearly enough to do so)... I think you put it better than I did. I just have a tendency to overreact when people freak out about early Friday numbers that get revised up. Catching Fire was the absolute peak of this madness.
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48667 Location: Arlington, VA
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
Fricking awesome start for American Hustle. That's way above what The Fighter did in 4 theaters around this same time of year. Bodes well. Solid for Saving Mr. Banks too.
Frozen and Philomena held extremely well. Expected for The Hobbit. I dunno what to even say about Madea; these numbers are inexplicable.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:57 pm |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
It's worth noting that it appears ILD didn't actually expand outside of NY or LA this weekend despite adding 11 theaters. Kind of a dumb move on CBS's part. Next weekend will be more telling of its prospects.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:03 pm |
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Dil
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
This is why early numbers are useless to begin with. Anyways, better results for DOS and MC, but still not very good for MC.
It could play better than expected over the holidays since there is nothing that appeals as strongly to urban audiences, but I'm not expecting any more than $40-$50M total and that might end up being a bit too generous.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:06 pm |
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TServo2049
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
Re: Madea, I'm not buying this idea of "the black demographic is tapped out because The Best Man Holiday did well last month," any more than I bought the idea that "Madea Christmas will automatically do well because black people will automatically flock to anything with Madea in it."
Now, I may be white, but I know for a fact that black moviegoers are not robots, nor do they have a hive mind. I'm sure that black moviegoers aren't thinking "Well, TBMH filled my one-black-movie-per-season quota, I guess I'm not going to see MC" any more than "Well, it's a Tyler Perry movie, and I'm black, so I guess I'm automatically going to see MC." Not only do they see many of the same movies as other Americans, but they also make decisions based on whether they think a movie, "urban" or not, is going to be any good.
Perhaps the people who went out to see all the previous Madea movies are waiting until it's closer to Christmas, or maybe they could be starting to get tired of Madea (in the same way white audiences have been getting tired of, say, Vince Vaughn), but I think we should also ponder whether a bunch of people made a bunch of individual decisions to the effect of "this individual movie just doesn't look very good to me, so I'm not interested in seeing it."
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:21 pm |
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
What a fucking racist post.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:54 pm |
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TServo2049
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
You really thought that? My point was that it's almost a little kinda "racist" to think that TBMH somehow exhausted black demand for black movies for the entire holiday season.
Every moviegoer makes individual decisions, white or black or purple or plaid. If MC underperforms, it's because the people who would have seen it decided not to. That was my point in a nutshell.
I only threw out the "tired of Madea" thing as a speculation - the Vince Vaughn comparison was intended as a joke.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:59 pm |
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David
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
You are clearly trying, struggling, to convince yourself black people are capable of sentient thought. Deeply troubling.
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David
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
There are still theatres in America playing We're the Millers. What a monster.
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TServo2049
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
I thought Millers closed last Thursday? That's what BOM says, so I assume that's WB's official close date? For that matter, what the hell is a close date? Do all theaters actually pull the movie after that date, or is that just when the studio officially stops tracking a film's gross? (And does this mean that Algren is right when he insists that The Expendables stayed in theaters longer and made more money than the official gross?)
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movies35
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
David wrote: You are clearly trying, struggling, to convince yourself black people are capable of sentient thought. Deeply troubling.
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Jedi Master Carr
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
With 31, the Hobbit should do at least 70 million. It could do more depending on how well it did today. I know the theater I was at today was pretty packed.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:33 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
I think The Hobbit will hit $70 million.
But opening to less than Return of the King's three-day weekend despite:
1. 3D 2. inflaiton 3. the fact that ROTK had a 5-day weekend with a lot of demand burned by Friday
makes this opening not too good. LOTR/Middle Earth will always be good for a big hit, but it is crazy how much of a non-event The Hobbit has generally become. Though The Hobbit 2 will obviously gross more doemstically, it seems like the domestic hype for it is not really much bigger than say, for Thor: The Dark World...
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Dr. Lecter
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
Magnus wrote: I would say it's even less than Thor 2. It really was as non-event as you can get for a high 60s/70m OW. Basically like your average Harry Potter film except for the first and the last then.
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Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:47 pm |
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i.hope
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Re: Friday numbers (Dec. 13)
I see Hobbit 2 doing:
Saturday: $26M (-16.5%) Sunday: $18.7M (-28.1%)
Weekend: $75.9M
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