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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
So, in a strange twist, the final Twilight might be fairly hard to predict.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:08 pm |
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movies35
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Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 pm Posts: 8626 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
It might disappoint opening weekend and have fairly decent holds but I really think it will do GREAT opening weekend and then just nose dive, unless it is actually good and fans see it more than once.
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
movies35 wrote: unless it is actually good and fans see it more than once. Which is never what happens. Deathly Hallows Part 2 had incredible reviews and managed an A CinemaScore, but it still barely pulled over a 2.0 multiplier.
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32114 Location: the last free city
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
BD2 180m Honest Abe 20m David wrote: jmovies wrote: I'm not in a place filled with the 12-18 female demographic. By court order, no doubt.
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bl1222
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Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:36 pm Posts: 3900
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
I believe Skyfall's breakout may have put a dent a little bit into Twilight's opening. It will open better than part 1 but won't exceed $150M OW.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:03 pm |
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movies35
Forum General
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 pm Posts: 8626 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
Why would that put a dent in Breaking Dawn? Most people seeing Skyfall wouldn't be seeing Breaking Dawn.
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:16 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
Yeah Skyfall have 0 impact on BD. They could have opened on the same weekend and the effect would still be minimal.
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:28 am |
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CowboyFromHell
Your Knife, My Back. My Gun, Your Head.
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:23 pm Posts: 2033 Location: Somewhere, USA
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
I agree with Jack Sparrow and movies35, Skyfall won't affect BD's OW - completely different audience.
Skyfall skewed older male anyhow. 60% male, 75% over age 25.
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:48 am |
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movies35
Forum General
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 pm Posts: 8626 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
I don't know about you, but I've seen PLENTY of Grandpas on bro dates seeing the previous Twilight films.
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CowboyFromHell
Your Knife, My Back. My Gun, Your Head.
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:23 pm Posts: 2033 Location: Somewhere, USA
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:08 am |
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
movies35 wrote: I don't know about you, but I've seen PLENTY of Grandpas on bro dates seeing the previous Twilight films. All kidding aside, I believe there's a certain older niche demographic that will come out for this, but only for the late shows.
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Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:02 pm |
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Crux
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:28 pm Posts: 1589 Location: Pittsburgh
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
Magic Mike wrote: movies35 wrote: I don't know about you, but I've seen PLENTY of Grandpas on bro dates seeing the previous Twilight films. All kidding aside, I believe there's a certain older niche demographic that will come out for this, but only for the late shows. Is that because they don't want to seem creepy for liking a tween vampire-werewolf movie?
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:24 am |
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bl1222
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Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:36 pm Posts: 3900
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
mtc 150 twilight 17 lincoln {nm} notfabio on Nov 12, 18:29
rs twilight mid 160s {nm} notfabio on Nov 12, 18:30
No RS number available for Lincoln.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:17 am |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
Hm, percentage-wise the difference isn't much for Breaking Dawn, so that's still pretty good.
That'd be a really nice opening for Lincoln.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:42 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
Tracking has proved to be useless when it comes to HUGE movies. Still those are concerning signs for Twilight but then again the probability does state that the numbers are close to MTC most of the times and even with those numbers BD2 will become biggest opener of the series.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 22691 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
The MTC vs RS difference could indicate anything as low as $140m or as high as $160m. Will probably be close to the MTC number.
Who is more accurate for these mega openers?
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:56 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
There is no way it opens lower than BD1. I think a slightly bigger opening from New Moon for $145m (still a decrease of audience)
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:21 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
I don't believe BD2 will end up very high in the end but it looks like the first 6 reviews are positive including THR and Variety. Would be interesting to see if there is any slight impact on the legs if this movie turns out good.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:49 pm |
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
Crux wrote: Magic Mike wrote: movies35 wrote: I don't know about you, but I've seen PLENTY of Grandpas on bro dates seeing the previous Twilight films. All kidding aside, I believe there's a certain older niche demographic that will come out for this, but only for the late shows. Is that because they don't want to seem creepy for liking a tween vampire-werewolf movie? It's because they're grampires, duh .
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:58 pm |
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Magic Mike
Wallflower
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
Jack Sparrow wrote: I don't believe BD2 will end up very high in the end but it looks like the first 6 reviews are positive including THR and Variety. Would be interesting to see if there is any slight impact on the legs if this movie turns out good. Legs will likely be no better than they were for any of the sequels. But I am impressed the first 6 reviews are positive.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:01 pm |
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
1. BREAKING DAWN: PART 2 - 138.96 MILLION (New) 2. SKYFALL - 46.83 MILLION (-47%) 3. WRECK-IT RALPH - 23.77 MILLION (-28%) 4. LINCOLN - 17 MILLION (New - To wide release anyway) 5. FLIGHT - 9.9 MILLION (-33%) 6. ARGO - 4.7 MILLION (-29%) 7. TAKEN 2 - 2.648 MILLION (-34%) 8. PITCH PERFECT - 1.749 MILLION (-32%) 9. HERE COMES THE BOOM - 1.69 MILLION (-33%) 10. CLOUD ATLAS - 1.3 MILLION (-51%) I hope Summit fudges the numbers for PERKS a bit and gives it enough to place it at #10 . It actually could be if it weren't for CLOUD ATLAS. Should be able to do above $900,000 for the weekend which will be better than the other holdovers, IMO.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:58 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36923
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
I still can't believe people are doing the same mistake of underestimating BD2's OW. The same thing happened with DH2. I think this will out open New Moon for sure. May not breakout as big as HP (because of 3D) but the opening day will be huge.
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:45 am |
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13270 Location: Vienna
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
I know this will probably open bigger but right now BD2 feels like a ~120M opener to me.
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:23 am |
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Magic Mike
Wallflower
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 34876 Location: Minnesota
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
I don't really sense an insane amount of buzz. It will do great but I only see a slight increase in opening over the last. I do think Thursday night showings will do better than for the last because 10:00 is a much more reasonable time for a school night than midnight.
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:36 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Re: November 16-18 Predictions
BTW, Pitch Perfect will probably drop big. It held this well last weekend because there is literally nothing out there for female audiences. But with Twilight out now...
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