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Jack Sparrow
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Predict Hobbit 1's OW
The previous trilogy broke all December records and even more impressive is the fact that they did not open over 3-day weekend.
The Hobbit has slightly different release schedule (opening a weekend earlier than the previous three) but they then this time it is opening over 3-day weekend.
The opening will be BIG regardless of the legs. This movie will also decide the fate of rest of the trilogy (ugghhh...)
I am currently predicting a modest $90m but I can see it opening as high as $125m.
P.S. Last year Sherlock Holmes looked like the biggest blockbuster but it did not open as big mostly because of Mission Impossible being HUGE at the same time. This year it looks like Skyfall is providing that competition but it released a month earlier and I don't see ANYTHING in December's slot that can steal Hobbit's thunder as much as MI4 did to Sherlock Holmes 2.
[Poll is up till Dec 13 and you can re-vote till Dec 7th]
Last edited by Jack Sparrow on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Will Hobbit break the December OW record?
Forgot to mention that 3D will also help in its OW, the trailers and teasers are making it look like an event 3D movie and then ofcourse the addition of 48 frames.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:05 am |
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Nazgul9
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Re: Will Hobbit break the December OW record?
Will the sun rise tomorrow?
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:13 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Will Hobbit break the December OW record?
Well its winter here so the sun is not coming for days....even if it rises it will be cloudy for my sight to see it I do believe there are lots of naysayers to December OW record. Also this is more of OW prediction...so put yours in.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:16 am |
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Nazgul9
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Re: Will Hobbit break the December OW record?
What, no option for $150m?
Kidding. But $120m is on the cards.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:28 am |
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MadGez
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Re: Will Hobbit break the December OW record?
Where do you live Jack sparrow?
Hobbit will break the record easily.
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Will Hobbit break the December OW record?
Currently I am in India (New Delhi), will be going to Malaysia (in two days) and then back to Singapore
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:33 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Changed the title to just the OW prediction. I hope this is fine with Naz and Gez
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:34 am |
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Nazgul9
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Re: Will Hobbit break the December OW record?
Jack Sparrow wrote: Currently I am in India (New Delhi), will be going to Malaysia (in two days) and then back to Singapore You are giving our company of dwarves, hobbit and wizard a run for their money, in terms of covering a distance.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:37 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
38¢
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:07 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Will Hobbit break the December OW record?
Nazgul9 wrote: Jack Sparrow wrote: Currently I am in India (New Delhi), will be going to Malaysia (in two days) and then back to Singapore You are giving our company of dwarves, hobbit and wizard a run for their money, in terms of covering a distance. Well middle-earth didn't have air vehicles
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:15 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Bradley Witherberry wrote: 38¢ Ha Ha Ha. Well I can claim that I will eat my own face if it makes only $38c over OW.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:22 am |
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choubachou
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
I used to think it wouldn't open very high, but after seeing Skyfall's performance.... I mean, James Bond isn't that big of a deal, and yet it opened to $88M. How hard will it be for Hobbit to open that high as well, a prequel to a hugely popular franchise?
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:43 am |
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choubachou
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Magnus wrote: choubachou wrote: I mean, James Bond isn't that big of a deal it's one of the most successful franchises of all time. The highest gross in the franchise is $168M.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:52 am |
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Nazgul9
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Magnus wrote: it's one of the most successful franchises of all time. Wrong, it's one of the most enduring franchises.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:04 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Skyfall's over performance is no indicator for Hobbit's success. Skyfall looked really good and the marketing was spot on.
Now Hobbit is looking good and the marketing is great but there is always comparison to the original trilogy which is why I have a doubt that this won't see as big of a jump as the LOTR movies (adjusted) over OW.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:43 pm |
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choubachou
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Jack Sparrow wrote: Skyfall's over performance is no indicator for Hobbit's success. Skyfall looked really good and the marketing was spot on.
Now Hobbit is looking good and the marketing is great but there is always comparison to the original trilogy which is why I have a doubt that this won't see as big of a jump as the LOTR movies (adjusted) over OW. Well for starters there will be a jump due to the fact that it's opening on Friday.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:59 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
I do think its those other factors but Hobbit opening to 3-day OW of ROTK will not be great, actually even just the 3-day OW adjusted numbers will be just good but not great IMO. ROTK's 3-day OW adjusts to $95,635,100. Even if it opens THAT big it will still be lesser than ROTK cause it would have grossed much more if it was released over 3-day.
As of now I don't see Hobbit getting to $95m OW, more like $90m.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:40 pm |
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choubachou
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Well it has a lot less hype than RotK, that's for sure.
However, look at Toy Story 3, which opened to $110M. 11 years seperated it from TS2 (while 9 years seperated RotK and Hobbit). Nobody asked for TS3, everyone understood that it was made only to milk the franchise. And LotR was much bigger than TS2. Yet it had a huge opening. Hobbit at least has some reason to exist beside milking the LotR franchise. I'm not saying Hobbit will necessarily open to $110M, but now that I think about it, I see nothing stopping it from opening that high.
In fact, now that I think about it, I don't understand why just a week ago, I didn't think Hobbit would reach even $70M on its opening weekend.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:52 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Yes I agree the hype for this movie is lower than ROTK which is also the reason I don't see it getting to $100m OW. Plus the source material is not as popular as LOTR, then the scope is small. All these factors I could agree will result in this one opening lesser than adjusted LOTR openings.
The only point I can't agree is "since Skyfall opened this big Hobbit should have no difficulty in opening more than that".
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:02 pm |
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Nazgul9
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Magnus wrote: It's a big-deal franchise. It's a mid tier franchise in the USA. Or rather, it was.
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:24 pm |
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Nazgul9
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Jack Sparrow wrote: Yes I agree the hype for this movie is lower than ROTK which is also the reason I don't see it getting to $100m OW. Plus the source material is not as popular as LOTR, then the scope is small. All these factors I could agree will result in this one opening lesser than adjusted LOTR openings.
The only point I can't agree is "since Skyfall opened this big Hobbit should have no difficulty in opening more than that". Look, ROTK would have opened to $150m today adjusted for 3-day, inflation and 3D / IMAX. Hobbit will easily break $100m.
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MovieDude
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
136 million
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:37 pm |
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Nazgul9
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Oh, i wish...
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Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:45 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Re: Predict Hobbit 1's OW
Magnus wrote: Obviously LOTR is bigger but no one is saying it isn't (except maybe Jack). 100m+ OW is going to happen. I never said Bond is bigger than LOTR, where did you get that ? I still don't see it getting $100m OW
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