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MadGez
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Magnus101 wrote: Man, if WB fucks this up, I seriously will go punch the Warner Bros. exectuvies in their face for being stupid. I mean, WB is given amazing films that have so much potential, and they fuck it up. Posiedon was understandable, BB was SOMEWHAT understandable, Troy was SOMEWHAT understandable. But if they fuck SR, it will honestly be to me one of the worst screw ups ever.
They got the name. They got the tie-ins. They got the holiday boost that they can maximize. They got the director that would do the right job. ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS FUCKING MARKET IT RIGHT!! ITS NOT THAT HARD! You get clips, you edit them properly, and you show it to poeple. NOT HARD FOR A FILM LIKE THIS!!!
Fucking retards. WB will fuck it up. They always do. In the last 10 years the only films they didnt screw up in some way or the other were Matrix (the original), Charlie and the Choc factory and offcourse Harry Potter (though they made a boo boo with HP3's release date). _________________
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 Magnus101 wrote: Man, if WB fucks this up, I seriously will go punch the Warner Bros. exectuvies in their face for being stupid. I mean, WB is given amazing films that have so much potential, and they fuck it up. Posiedon was understandable, BB was SOMEWHAT understandable, Troy was SOMEWHAT understandable. But if they fuck SR, it will honestly be to me one of the worst screw ups ever.
They got the name. They got the tie-ins. They got the holiday boost that they can maximize. They got the director that would do the right job. ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS FUCKING MARKET IT RIGHT!! ITS NOT THAT HARD! You get clips, you edit them properly, and you show it to poeple. NOT HARD FOR A FILM LIKE THIS!!!
Fucking retards. you cant just blame WB for fucking things up. you're the fan. if something doens't look good, just openly come out and say so. help them improve. i swear during batman, people were raving about even the stupid stuff (example: The Begins video game looks amaaazing!! dude, it looked like shit).
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redspear
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Whoa wait a SR thread where the posts are actually legible? Now way! this unfreaking real. Well I guess I am going to have to carry a small bit of BoM wiht me. Not a whole lot mind you just enough to stir the pot a tad and increase the Browning Motion in this thread a little bitmore
SR will make $1,118.9 million domestic and $1,845.0 million worldwide since comic book movies rarely are as big over seas.
AMi going to have to put a bunch of links up and type with mysterious capital letters and super long posts?
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redspear wrote: Whoa wait a SR thread where the posts are actually legible? Now way! this unfreaking real. Well I guess I am going to have to carry a small bit of BoM wiht me. Not a whole lot mind you just enough to stir the pot a tad and increase the Browning Motion in this thread a little bitmore
SR will make $1,118.9 million domestic and $1,845.0 million worldwide since comic book movies rarely are as big over seas.
AMi going to have to put a bunch of links up and type with mysterious capital letters and super long posts? Not sure if Kj peeps will get this but I find it quite funny =p _________________Why I'm not an artist.....
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The Steeeve
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I just went over there and took a look at the Box office derby. It's really sad how that guy has taken it over. Example:
Superman128 wrote: Transformers Life Action Mega Movie Website to be launched soon!!!.
It all begins. Is Transformers going to live up to the HYPE.
Share your thoughts, as the craze that hit the world from the 80s-90s finally comes to big screen in Live Action Glory.
Can Transformers achieve 300M, 400M , EVEN 500M and above domestically???
2007-2008 Could be a day for the robots. This was the top thread. The second one down was his Superman thread with 120 pages.
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Heres that tv spot with the guy that sounds like Weird Al
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Joker's Thug #3
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So how many times has James Marsden played the guy who loses his girlfriend?
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Excel
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well, bryan is singer is gay, so im guessing hesa a huge fan of the notebook which has marsden as the character who loses his love to her earlier flame, so that might explain a few things....
bought a superman retyurns edition sobe energy drink-tasted HORRIBLE imo (im a redbull guy). several had already been sold.
and incase you havent figured it out, superman128 is CRAZY
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Excel
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meanwhile, the new-supposably more action oriented-superman trailr is airing with internatinal mega hit da vinci code around the globe.
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May 18, 2006 -- IT'S a bird, it's a plane, it's ... the sky-high cost of making "Superman Returns."
The new Man of Steel flick, due out June 30, is the culmination of a long, long, long process - one that's had a rotating cast of directors and stars, and drawn a steady stream of Warner Bros. funds since the project began in the early 1990s.
The current version, with "X-Men" director Bryan Singer at the helm, finally began production last spring - as the studio and eager audiences sighed with relief.
But given Singer's penchant for high-end special effects and copious reshoots, some in Hollywood have speculated that the film's sizable budget has since ballooned to nearly $300 million.
"From what I gather, it will be the most expensive film ever," says box office expert David Poland, editor of Movie City News.
"There's no way the picture could cost less than $250 million, based on what they green-lit. And they green-lit $200 million with [previous director] McG. Then they started production, and then they got rid of McG, and then they started with Bryan, and finished, and then had to reshoot. "I figure it anywhere between $290 and $300 million at this point," he concludes.
Edward Jay Epstein, author of "The Big Picture: Money and Power in Hollywood," takes a different view of the calculation, saying that estimates shouldn't include money for so-called "pay or play" deals with previous participants - a list that includes Brett Ratner, Tim Burton, Kevin Smith, J.J. Abrams and Nicolas Cage - who were eventually cut out.
"There has been a long odyssey of Warner Bros. attempting to make this movie," he concedes, "but those costs would have been written off. The only way a movie like this could cost anything approaching [$300 million] is if you have someone like Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg each getting 16 percent of the gross."
The exact, ultimate price tag of the new "Superman" has become a hot topic as the film nears opening day. Variety has said it's $250 million; last week, the Wall Street Journal reported $261 million.
Both of which drew protests from Warner Bros. suits, who insist the movie's costs are being incorrectly interpreted and inflated.
"The number - after tax credits - is around $204 million," Susan Fleishman, executive vice president of corporate communications for Warner Bros., said in a prepared statement.
But even that "Titanic"-sized budget would seem to be exorbitantly high for a movie featuring no huge movie stars - Kevin Spacey's the highest-profile, and he ain't that high - and a dubious need for extravagant special effects.
After all, the story's main conceit is a guy in tights who can fly. And, as Poland snarks, "the technology in flying has not improved that much."
"Based on the trailer, it doesn't look like one of the most expensive movies ever," says Brandon Gray, publisher of BoxOfficeMojo.com. "They could be saving the good stuff for the actual film, of course - but that's an uncommon practice. Usually they show every special effect in the trailer."
In an effort to track down a possible source of the "Superman" money pit, The Post pored over the film's second trailer with special-effects expert Eric Hanson, who's worked on CG-heavy films including "The Fifth Element" and "The Day After Tomorrow."
The biggest and potentially most expensive scene in the trailer, he says, seems to be the one in which Superman (Brandon Routh) stops a fiery plane from crashing.
"It's probably a [computer-generated] double," he says, "and it will definitely be a CG double for action sequences like when he's on the wing of the plane. It could be a live-action face. But things like the cape are definitely going to be computer graphics.
"This is a good example of a shot that has to withstand pretty close scrutiny. There's a fair amount of budget that will go into that."
Hanson says a big-budget film like this one will typically spend six to nine months before shooting even begins on CG research and development, plus a year of actual production time. "You're probably looking at 300 to 400 artists," he estimates.
Ultimately, Hanson says, the price tag for CG work in films like this is about $1 million per minute. "I'd wager probably half the film is effects," he says, "but it could be higher."
Given the film's estimated 150-minute running time, that's $75 million right there.
But as Epstein points out, "it all depends on what comes out on the screen. It makes no difference to me how expensive a movie is. Warner Brothers is the most profitable movie studio there is - I would assume that whatever the film costs is what they value it at." No matter what the final price tag is, one thing's clear: "Superman" had better be able to leap opening-day box office records in a single bound.
http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/68736.htm
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204 million-its 3 less the kong but superman doesnt have
-3 huge name actors geeting atleast 5-10 million appiece
-a director getting 20 million
-isnt 180 minutes but 140.
so kongs budget minus cast salaries is around 160 million
so basically, if the effects are worse then kong, money was wasted cause for kong it was 160/188 minute film =.85 million a minute. superman after salaries, is probaly about 186. so 186/140 = 1.3 million a minute. HUGE difference. That that supermanfx budget was 100 million comapred to kong 78 million dollar one, and kongs fx were spread out over 190 minutes while supermans wil be "crammed" into 140 million.
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doesn't the $204m include the cost to get the actors & director.
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Just from the trailers I would say Kongs CGI 100% OWNs Sups Returns.
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i wouldnt,but whatever.
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So when does budget for effects equals how good the CGI looks? Each of the LOTR movies cost less than 130 to make yet it produced better CGI than Van Helsing that was budgetted at 180 million. You also neglect to mention that a huge chunk of the budget for Superman Returns went into CGIing previous footage from Superman 2 using Brando's image.
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IM JUST SAYING...CHILL OUT! The more money a movie has for fx=the better theyll look. logic syas that.
meanwhile another - this time much mroe action oriented- tv spot aired with american funniest gome videos. im awaiting its online release
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STEVE ROGERS
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Oompa Loompa Midget Man wrote: So when does budget for effects equals how good the CGI looks? Each of the LOTR movies cost less than 130 to make yet it produced better CGI than Van Helsing that was budgetted at 180 million. You also neglect to mention that a huge chunk of the budget for Superman Returns went into CGIing previous footage from Superman 2 using Brando's image.
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Excel
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now THIS is what im talking about! magnus, youll love it!
zing, shack, WATCH.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.p...173EEF13ADB56CB
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El Maskado
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http 404 not found . Those are the CGI  ?
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ITS NOT WORKING?!?
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El Maskado
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I do abmit the trailer is well put and at least looks better than the theaterical one. However it shows really no new footage that we havent seen from the pepsi commercial that Revolution put together
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| Fri May 19, 2006 11:35 pm |
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Excel
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what pepsi commericial??and it actually has lots of new footage-
-shot of kent farm
-ben hubbard(the old guy saying "martha says you flew in last night"
-flying towards ther artic
-shirt rip
-all the clapping/crowd scenes
-him flying by the street and papers flying
-him flying by ther plane-jet thrusters, lois sees a red streak as shes in trouble
zingaling watch this one. please. youve been saying its not the amount of marketing that matters but what is in it, well even you must agree, if the marketing is like this, itll be GREAT.
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rev. watch the tv spot
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