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Proud Ryu
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Harry Potter 7.2 and Cap'n America respectively represent new lows for the statistic "% of 3D gross divided by % of 3d theaters". KFP2 and Green Lantern had already lowered the bar quite a bit.
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MadGez
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Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23323 Location: Melbourne Australia
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I'm sure the studios are studying sell-outs in 2D theatres vs 3D. This is key to determine whether films are making less money due to having them in 3D theatres.
Obviously there is a cut-off point where the 3D pricing enables the film to make more than it normally would (ie. Avatar, Alice, Titans). However, there is a point where as people avoid seeing a 3D session of a film, that they are either turned away from a 2D session as its sold out or there are not enough 2D session so they see something else.
Key data required would be how many 2D sellouts we are seeing while 3D theatres are empty or half empty. Would an increase in 2D showings vs 3D showings help out overall gross? I'd say yes, based on current 3D showings at sub 40%.
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_axiom
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Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Magnus wrote: The economy's been shit since 2009 and yet all of a sudden now its an issue? lol Quote: Lewis did say, though, that the numbers could improve as theaters have additional 3D screens and releases don't open "on top of each other." I do agree with him that 3D shares would improve with fewer 3D releases. How about once a decade?
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Nazgul9
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3D box office doubles in 2010Quote: Our friends at media consultancy IHS Screen Digest did the math: Global box office for 3D grew from $2.5 billion in 2009 to $6.1 billion last year, which made for a 19.3% share of overall theatrical collections (2009: 8.6%). Of that total, international territories accounted for 64.6% (2009: 53.8%), with nine territories grossing more than $200 million each and 14 others more than $100 million.
In terms of regional distribution, cinema analyst Charlotte Jones noted the largest share in Europe (24%) in comparison to North America (20.5%). 3D accounted for more than one-quarter of total box-office revenues in six territories, including Poland, Russia (33.1% share) and the Czech Republic. Following Japan’s largest individual gross ($471 million), the United Kingdom was the strongest 3D theatrical market in Western Europe ($427 mil. and 27.5% share). Of the countries profiled by IHS Screen Digest, Norway reported the lowest 3D box-office ratio (15.8%), followed by Turkey (15.9%). Norway also recorded the highest average 3D ticket price, but “this was relative to its blended ticket price.”
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Bluebomb
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Global 3D biz looks blurryQuote: But elsewhere abroad, the percentage of upcharge seems to have little effect on the format's popularity.
In mainland China, 3D tickets cost between $12 and $18 compared to the country's average 2D ticket price of $9.39. But Chinese moviegoers rarely pay full fare: Besides half-price Tuesdays, online group purchases can cut 3D ticket prices in half, and some theaters discount purchases by certain credit-card holders.
An aggressive 3D rollout has made China one of the biggest boosters of the format, as 3D accounted for the majority of B.O. for "Transformers," "On Stranger Tides" and "Harry Potter," with 82%, 64% and 70%, respectively, in the market. Quote: Despite a much higher 3D premium by percentage for Russian moviegoers vs. 2D prices (at around 36%, according to St. Petersburg-based firm NevaFilm), 3D still rakes in considerable coin there. Japanese filmgoers pay an average 3D upcharge of $3.79, or 27% over the $15.68 average ticket price. And it can be much higher in some locales: In Tokyo's downtown Roppongi Hill theater, for instance, 3D tickets cost as much as $5.11 more than 2D. Quote: 3D isn't working everywhere overseas, however.
Spain is seeing the format's biggest downslide (at least in Europe), crippled by a 22% unemployment rate and rampant piracy. The country's 3D premium at 37%, or $3.05 more than 2D, also is contributing to the format's decline. "Transformers" grossed 49% locally from 3D, while "Pirates of the Caribbean" earned 41% and "The Smurfs" earned 39%.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Break out the champagne - - the 3D blight is over! Who Killed 3-D? ...is a very astute analysis by Slate.com of this death of the latest incarnation of the 3D fad. My favorite quote from the article: "There's no value to 3-D whatsoever. At best, it caters to the mall crowd, or the markets overseas that lap up our most embarrassing exports."
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:26 am |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
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Magnus wrote: There's no artistic value in 3D. But there's still a commercial value in certain projects. There are no absolutes, Magnus, especially about something as subjective as artistic value. 
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Proud Ryu
Deshi Basara
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:36 pm Posts: 5322 Location: The Interstice
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I wonder if Obi Wan caught the irony in his statement, since the statement itself is an absolute.
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Obi Wan is a Jedi, not a Sith.
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Is there a 3D percentage for TLK available?
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Nazgul9
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Quote: 3D presentations accounted for 92 percent of the gross BOM weekend report
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Dr. Lecter
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Nice. Will you be seeing it in theatres, Nazgul?
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Nazgul9
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Eh, i dunno, not a huge desire to see it again, honestly, especially not for 15 bucks.
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Nazgul9 wrote: Quote: 3D presentations accounted for 92 percent of the gross BOM weekend reportThey didn't provide exact 3-d screen count but before BOM said that nearly all screens were in 3-D. And obiously release was promoted as 3-D only.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Be sure to take a minute to read: Who Killed 3-D?
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Flava'd vs The World
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Lion King was a big win for 3D. I don't mind a bunch of 3d re-releases if they cut down on they stop converting every big movie into 3D. Avengers will be the real test.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Lion King was a big win for 3D. Was it a real win? Sadly, parents were forced to take their children to see it for the first time on the big screen in dull, dark 3D. As Dr. Lecter has pointed out elsewhere, there are no other choices at of kids' movies currently at the multiplex. Imagine if parents had had a choice to let their little ones experience in bright, beautiful 2D like they themselves had seen it in it's original release? I won't be going to see The Lion King 3D re-release, but I would have if it was available in 2D. If they had also released it in proper 2D, what would the 2D/3D revenue split have been? Flava'd vs The World wrote: I don't mind a bunch of 3d re-releases if they cut down on they stop converting every big movie into 3D. Avengers will be the real test. Perhaps the Avengers producers should learn from The Lion King 3D re-release and only release it in 3D. I'll bet the 3D revenue share will soar to 100%!
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Flava'd vs The World
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: Flava'd vs The World wrote: Lion King was a big win for 3D. Was it a real win? Sadly, parents were forced to take their children to see it for the first time on the big screen in dull, dark 3D. As Dr. Lecter has pointed out elsewhere, there are no other choices at of kids' movies currently at the multiplex. Imagine if parents had had a choice to let their little ones experience in bright, beautiful 2D like they themselves had seen it in it's original release? I won't be going to see The Lion King 3D re-release, but I would have if it was available in 2D. If they had also released it in proper 2D, what would the 2D/3D revenue split have been? Flava'd vs The World wrote: I don't mind a bunch of 3d re-releases if they cut down on they stop converting every big movie into 3D. Avengers will be the real test. Perhaps the Avengers producers should learn from The Lion King 3D re-release and only release it in 3D. I'll bet the 3D revenue share will soar to 100%! It will overseas  . But here was we have the freeeeedom to see it in 2D.
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MovieDude
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One reason I think 3D had a win with The Lion King is that previous re-releases almost exclusively depend on re-edits and changes to the film itself. Here there was no need to turn guns into radios and have Greedo shoot first. The Lion King is still the same film, only enhanced (or hindered, depending on your opinion) by 3D. And this re-release opened higher than any since the much-touted Star Wars re-releases that spent millions on new effects and had the benefit of The Phantom Menace to boost hype.
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movies35
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Most of the theaters here had The Lion King showing in 2D..
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Bradley Witherberry
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movies35 wrote: Most of the theaters here had The Lion King showing in 2D.. You're lucky to have talkies in Syracuse!
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mark66
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The re-release, which is playing on some 2D screens as well, is generating more than 90 percent of its grosses from 3D locations. Domestically, the film has one more weekend of full play in theaters before the Diamond Blu-Ray edition of the film is released on Oct. 4. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... ing-239998To be honest, I'm surprised by that number...
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Bradley Witherberry
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mark66 wrote: The re-release, which is playing on some 2D screens as well, is generating more than 90 percent of its grosses from 3D locations. Domestically, the film has one more weekend of full play in theaters before the Diamond Blu-Ray edition of the film is released on Oct. 4. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/b ... ing-239998To be honest, I'm surprised by that number... In my market, there were 97 3D screenings today and 9 2D screenings. On weekdays it drops down to a single 2D screening per day. So for it to be hitting 90%, those 2D screenings must be packed to the rafters!
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Nazgul9
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Let's wait before prematurely declaring prices will go up.
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