It's official, Cars 2 is gonna flop. MTC<<<RS rule.

Nothing is official until it happens kbai

MTC has been much less accurate recently. I don't need to remind everyone of Bridesmaids.

I have no trouble believing in MTC's CARS 2 forecast...

You are in denial.

Uhh. How so? MTC is not the gospel. It can still make more than they say. I predicted $76M and I'm sticking to that. Maybe I'll end up with eggs on my face but I think MTC is trying to compensate here for Panda 2 doing less than expected.

MTC hasn't been hot lately, but the tracking disparity is disconcerting. Still have to respect the theorem.

But MTC together with RS is the gospel.

That "rule" is increasingly overrated, imo.

i'll take 15 million DVD sales for Cars over tracking any day of the week

How many DVDs sold Pirates 3 again?

The rule didn't work last week and MTC is always low on animated films. They were low on TS3 as I recall.

MTC had Toy Story 3 at 108. Hardly a huge underprediction.

MTC's Pixar scorecard:

TOY STORY 3:
108m MTC - 110m actual

UP:
62m MTC - 68m actual

WALL-E:
70m MTC - 63m actual

RATATOUILLE:
47m MTC - 47m actual

Why are you comparing the 3th film in the Pirates franchise to an original animated film? Not an apples to apples comparison.

Because i think it's still a valid comparison. Selling many DVDs doesn't make the sequel a guaranteed smash hit.

How about some valid comparisons?
Shrek 3 - 11.4m
Kung Fu Panda - 9.1m

A better comparison for Cars would be other animated films or hell even the first Pirates movie. Not the third one.

And yes, DVD sales do not guarantee a smash hit. But if 15 million+ people are willing to pay 20 dollars just to own a copy of the movie, those same people will be more motivated to see the sequel.

A better comparison for Cars would be other animated films or hell even the first Pirates movie. Not the third one.

And yes, DVD sales do not guarantee a smash hit. But if 15 million+ people are willing to pay 20 dollars just to own a copy of the movie, those same people will be more motivated to see the sequel.

It's not gonna open to $100m.

Yeah I really don't think it opens to 100 million either.

1. CARS 2 - 86.2 MILLION (New)
2. BAD TEACHER - 25.6 MILLION (New)
3. GREEN LANTERN - 19.1 MILLION (-64%)
4. SUPER 8 - 14.2 MILLION (-34%)
5. MR. POPPER'S PENGUINS - 8.9 MILLION (-52%)
6. X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - 6.7 MILLION (-44%)
7. THE HANGOVER: PART II - 5.3 MILLION (-47%)
8. MIDNIGHT IN PARIS - 3.9 MILLION (-19.8%)
9. BRIDESMAIDS - 3.9 MILLION (-45%)
10. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 4 - 3.7 MILLION (-45%)
11. KUNG FU PANDA 2 - 3.3 MILLION (-64%)

Does kinda have the same feel as Panda 2. Families are Pixar's main audience, but there is no doubt it has built up a huge internet following and the hype is not there for this one. Opening to less than Up would not be all that surprising. Going with $65M as final prediction.

At the moment, Cars 2's poll isn't that encouraging either (IN COMPARISON TO OTHER PIXAR MOVIES AHHH DON'T FREAK OUT PEOPLE). It's at 31.2%.

Comparisons:
Cars - 34.6%
Up - 41.9%
Wall-E - 48.4%
Toy Story 3 - 54.5%

My thread might come true

I fully expect online signs to not be inflated as they typically are for Pixar releases. There's a lot of hate for the original film on the internet community (IMDB is already at 6.9, for instance)