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Penguins is like Prince Caspian's release all over again. Seems like the perfect movie to open over the winter holidays, not June! Bad release date on the studio's part...

But November and December are SO, SO crowded with family films. This one would easily be overshadowed.

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Gunslinger wrote:
O wrote:
Penguins is like Prince Caspian's release all over again. Seems like the perfect movie to open over the winter holidays, not June! Bad release date on the studio's part...

But November and December are SO, SO crowded with family films. This one would easily be overshadowed.


It could be really leggy like Yogi Bear :P, but even so it wouldn't end up with a total much more than it would now being released in the summer.


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I know it's fairly early, but Green Lantern's BOM poll is pretty alarming. It's only at 39.9% OW, while Thor ended up with 53.6%.


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I know it's fairly early, but Green Lantern's BOM poll is pretty alarming. It's only at 39.9% OW, while Thor ended up with 53.6%.


It's up to 40% now and there are only 603 users polled :P.


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Mike wrote:
Biggestgeekever wrote:
I know it's fairly early, but Green Lantern's BOM poll is pretty alarming. It's only at 39.9% OW, while Thor ended up with 53.6%.


It's up to 40% now and there are only 603 users polled :P.
Hey, I said it was fairly early! AND it's at 39.6% with 611 votes. It's sinking like a stone! :P


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Also we have seen what 3D does to sequels. Especially ones coming in with meh WOM.

I have seen nothing of the sorts. What i have seen is internet people doing a lot of conjecturing.

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Biggestgeekever wrote:
I know it's fairly early, but Green Lantern's BOM poll is pretty alarming. It's only at 39.9% OW, while Thor ended up with 53.6%.


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Biggestgeekever wrote:
I know it's fairly early, but Green Lantern's BOM poll is pretty alarming. It's only at 39.9% OW, while Thor ended up with 53.6%.

Eh, it's still pretty close to the similarly-goofy-looking Fantastic Four and its sequel, which both did around $55 million.

We'll have to wait til Friday night to see if superhero/alien overload and crappy cartoon animation significantly hurt it or not.


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Keyser Söze wrote:
Also we have seen what 3D does to sequels. Especially ones coming in with meh WOM.

I have seen nothing of the sorts. What i have seen is internet people doing a lot of conjecturing.


if you dont believe Pirates/Panda underperformed bcos of 3d factor, vanilla who works at a theater also confirmed my belief.


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I am confident 3D will pull down the ticket sales and ensure it does not break the midnight record. I am thinking 25M midnights.
Why will 3D pull down ticket sales for midnights?


because of the surcharge. We already are seeing with Shawn's report where he said 2d has a sellout but no sellout for 3D. I am sure theaters will try to force people to see in 3d(by keeping fewer 2D shows) and that will ensure lower ticket sales.


+1000. Working at a theatre during the 3D craze and fall I completely agree with you. The general public just does not like it anymore. However latley I have been noticing theatre showing 2D on 2 screens and 3D on 2 or three. It use to be 1 2D, 3-4 3D for big blockbusters. Its changing which is good.

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Post Re: June 17-19 Predictions
Biggestgeekever wrote:
Mike wrote:
Biggestgeekever wrote:
I know it's fairly early, but Green Lantern's BOM poll is pretty alarming. It's only at 39.9% OW, while Thor ended up with 53.6%.


It's up to 40% now and there are only 603 users polled :P.
Hey, I said it was fairly early! AND it's at 39.6% with 611 votes. It's sinking like a stone! :P


I was about to say: since when did Libs start giving any weight to these polls?

Other comparisons:
The Green Hornet - 31%
X-Men: First Class - 58.5%
Hellboy II - 39.6%
The Incredible Hulk - 45.9%
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer - 38.3%
Ghost Rider - 31.8%


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zingy wrote:
Biggestgeekever wrote:
Mike wrote:
Biggestgeekever wrote:
I know it's fairly early, but Green Lantern's BOM poll is pretty alarming. It's only at 39.9% OW, while Thor ended up with 53.6%.


It's up to 40% now and there are only 603 users polled :P.
Hey, I said it was fairly early! AND it's at 39.6% with 611 votes. It's sinking like a stone! :P


I was about to say: since when did Libs start giving any weight to these polls?

Other comparisons:
The Green Hornet - 31%
X-Men: First Class - 58.5%
Hellboy II - 39.6%
The Incredible Hulk - 45.9%
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer - 38.3%
Ghost Rider - 31.8%


BOM Polls for male-oriented (and fanboy) films have continued a trend of overinflation. For that reason, they make for a less reliable yardstick.

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if you dont believe Pirates/Panda underperformed bcos of 3d factor, vanilla who works at a theater also confirmed my belief.

No, it confirms just that people might not opt for 3D as much as before (the statistics are showing that, too). It also confirms that people have the 2D option. So, at worst 3D boosts the gross only a little but it doesn't hurt it.

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^^^

That is because at Vanilla's theater they are responding to demands. At many places there are very few 2d shows(or at non-peak hours). That is damaging overall ticket sales of 3d flicks. That is why we are seeing consistent pattern of 3d movies doing below expectations.

I would say if Avatar 2 opened today it will also be affected.

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But I think Nazgul also believes that people are willing to drive long distances to watch it in 2D if they want, otherwise opt for 3D. And that's not the case.


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Pirates is a bad comparison because if it had only been on 2D it still would have made less money. People hated the previous two movies and that affected the 4th one. I really don't know what happened to Panda, I think it was a combination of factors. If Transformers does do less it will be because of the previous film more than anything else.


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MTC:

Green Lantern - $58m
Mr. Popper's Penguins - $20m
The Art of Getting By - $2m

http://www.hsx.com/forum/forum.php?id=3&pid=112214

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Good sign for Green Lantern. Not so much for Penguins.


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So lantern is looking at early 60's if MTC/RS rule works.

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Post Re: June 17-19 Predictions
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MTC:

Green Lantern - $58m
Mr. Popper's Penguins - $20m
The Art of Getting By - $2m

http://www.hsx.com/forum/forum.php?id=3&pid=112214


Fox Searchlight will be very excited if "The Art of Getting By" can open that high.


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Green $45m
Popper $25m

Green has a lot of downside imo. Mid 50's feels like the max, 30 feels like the floor.


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That is because at Vanilla's theater they are responding to demands.

And others do, too. They are not stupid, they want people to come to buy tickets and concessions. You say at many places there are few 2D shows but you have done no comprehensive, nation-wide research. Even if that would be the case, are they selling out consistently? Maybe those shows is all that is needed. There's many things to consider. I live in a relatively small city and every big movie has 2D and 3D shows. I'm not saying every single person has the option to chose every time, but i'm pretty sure that the number of lost customers due to 3D is rather small and more than offset by higher ticker prices and maybe even new customers. The main reasons why those movies underperformed were others.

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Yeah, for all of the big movies we have the option of 2D or 3D. They usually have 2D on 2 screens and 3D on just one.


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I still don't feel Green Lantern. It doesn't help it looks like shit.


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Penguins is being overestimated. Just because it got a lot of TV Spots doesn't mean it will easily succeed. While Carrey's last film made a $100m+, it should've done better because of the Christmas nature. After Yes Man and ACC, Carrey's starpower has slowed down. I cannot see this opening higher than $20m and for MTC to have 20 exactly and RS in the low 20s, does not bold well unless it miraculously gets excellent reviews.


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Father's Day should give Penguins a bit of a boost, especially with them promoting the holiday in the TV spots. Wouldn't be surprised if it underperformed though. It does look like shit.

1. GREEN LANTERN - 55.9 MILLION (New)
2. MR. POPPER'S PENGUINS - 21.9 MILLION (New)
3. SUPER 8 - 18.4 MILLION (-48%)
4. X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - 12.1 MILLION (-50%)
5. KUNG FU PANDA 2 - 10.8 MILLION (-35%)
6. THE HANGOVER II - 9.9 MILLION (-44%)
7. BRIDESMAIDS - 8.1 MILLION (-20%)
8. PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN - 6 MILLION (-45%)
9. MIDNIGHT IN PARIS - 4.5 MILLION (-23%)
10. JUDY MOODY & THE NOT BUMMER SUMMER - 3.1 MILLION (-49%)


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