No, if you're smart enough to trim the fat. It has just started overseas, and so far the results are good, and the overall response seems to be not bad as well. And remember, it doesn't need to be profitable in theaters... And Disney needs a franchise.

With good DVD sales it might get greenlighted. And at least it didn't bombed. That's decent for a first movie.

Plus, there is still a chance of good legs. WoM doesn't seem to be bad.

Yeah. At the age of sequels you have to give them credit for that. It's not an original concept, but, you know, still something.

And the second movie will have nowhere to go, but up.

Perhaps we should wait at least until the next weekend?

Updated OS gross - $95,500,000

Well about 100M after 2 weeks of release very good. RH had 125M after 2 weeks but it was released in 59 markets vs 47 markets for PoP. Since both of them have had the same budget (though I think the marketing budget for PoP should be way higher than RH) I think both of them are going to barely recover the studios money. Overseas both of these should be approximately equal.

It all depends on the Domestic gross. PoP is far behind in that area since 4-day opening of Pop is approx equal to 3-day opening of RH. WOM might be just equal(assumption) so I would say RH will have the upper hand there and might win WW total by 10-20M.

It had a strong week overseas.

After this weekend it stands at:

$156,400,000


I'm think it will pass Robin Hood overseas, especially since it will not get any new direct competition overseas during the World Cup.

That is just WOW for PoP overseas. If it continues at this rate there is a chance it will pass RH on WW total as well considering they will not have that big difference domestically

I dont see how Disney would even greenlight a sequel given that they dropped Narnia from their contract and that one made a good profit overseas

They won't. That's quite clear, I think.

Though dropping Narnia was a stupid move on Disney's part.

I still think that the budget for PoP was closer to $150M then $200M.

150 million is to save face. I would take BOM's budget over news articles reports from studio execs spin over the budget

Narnia 2 cost 225 million to make, with reports of a marketing budget north of 175m. Add that in with a new deal they made with Walden in terms of who sees how much money, and another installment didn't make much sense to them.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big ... -hist.html

Disney screwed themselves over with Narnia. Even HP, a much more popular and stable franchise endured a significant hit for what was then the most acclaimed movie of the series (and even today one of the more popular ones) when it moved to summer. Narnia needed holidays, because it doesn't have the big fanbase pull HP has. Narnia could do good numbers this season as well.

What Dr. Lecter and be.redy said about Narnia.

I don't see where the $ went to for Caspian though, it sucked unfortunately. Hopefully Fox, of all studios, can do something about Narnia 3.

Anyway, regarding Persia, honestly, if it gets great DVD sales, they could greenlight a sequel, but finally they will rein in Bruckheimer.

He's been operating on a thin line since AWE's budget exploded but gross stayed the same and then the G-Force fiasco. Now with Persia severely underwhelming on opening weekend and total and movies like Clash and Holmes doing well with smaller budgets and Apprentice's 200m budget later on, I think his time's up as a free-to-do-anything-at-any-price producer.

Okay, Clash's VFX weren't great and Holmes didn't really have any but I'm sure there are a lot of ways to trim Bruckheimer's budgets. Not sure what he does so that they are huge in the first place. I mean, G-Force cost $150m? Why? Animating those rodents? District 9 cost what again? $35m? (What did it cost?) When ROTF costs only $50m more than G-Force (I think) with so much more explosions, metallic transformations, robots, lasers etc. you know something's wrong.

Disney's marketing is another terribly managed area. $175m spent on Caspian? Doing what? There are much more effective ways to market movies. I'm not sure how much they will end up spending on Tron and Toy Story 3 but those have been quite specifically targeted and don't seem to cost that much. (They own that Disneyland billboard/train etc.) We'll see then. I mean, how on earth do you expect to recoup your costs if you spend $175m marketing a movie and have nothing solid to show for what you used the money on?

Ummm, what? The Sorcerer's Apprentice has a $200 million budget???? That's insane.


Holmes had a lot of special effects. That industrial period London shots throughout the movie didn't come out of nowhere and they were pretty great. Also the ship wreckage was one big VFX shot and there were a lot of other smaller things.

I fucking hate abbreviations like this. ROTF my ass. Call it Transformers2. I spent more time thinking about what this could mean than reading several posts.

Doing extremely well in the middle-tier Asian countries:

INDONESIA - Weekend 2

Last week it had the largest opening of all-time (regardless of days) and had a good drop in the 2nd week. Currently tracking as the #2 film of the year behind Iron Man 2.

2012 - $4,629,101 ($2,378,271, +51.3%)
Spiderman 3 - $3,552,693
Iron Man 2 - $3,408,277 ($874,145, -46.5%)
Prince Of Persia: The Sands Of Time - $3,093,092 ($672,725, -51.6%)
Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen - $2,972,340 ($677,911, -39.8%)
Avatar - $2,913,575 ($1,005,514, +2.2%)*Christmas
Harry Potter 6: HBP - $2,736,209 ($572,973, -49.8%)
Clash Of The Titans - $2,358,011 ($549,140, -51.2%)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $1,729,380
Superman Returns - $1,700,000
Terminator 4: Salvation - $1,647,535 ($488,138, -48.7%)
Robin Hood - $1,545,168 ($274,616, -54.7%)
Ice Age 3: Dawn Of The Dinosaurs - $1,503,936 ($363,499, -29%)
Sherlock Holmes - $1,440,487 ($395,920, -25.5%)


MALAYSIA - Weekend 2

Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen - $5,864,522 ($1,503,768, -41%)
2012 - $4,882,270 ($1,511,931, -34.5%)
Spiderman 3 - $3,854,303 ($813,925, -47.3%)
Iron Man 2 - $3,740,069 ($1,107,247, -40%)
Transformers - $3,328,855 ($1,106,006, -27.7%)
CJ7 (2008) - $3,192,257 ($664,538, -65.3%)
Avatar - $3,239,150 ($1,208,228, -8.8%)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $3,070,490 ($848,020, -45.3%)
Prince Of Persia: The Sands Of Time - $2,913,531 ($837,540, -47.8%)
Clash Of The Titans -$2,860,796 ($841,562, -45.2%)
Terminator 4: Salvation - $2,824,586 ($816,563, -42.7%)
Ip Man 2 (2010) - $2,718,301 ($856,423, -37.1%)
Iron Man - $2,671,808 ($609,942, -55.1%)
Alice In Wonderland - $2,667,409 ($756,932, -22.3%)


SINGAPORE - Weekend 2

Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen - $4,818,619 ($1,064,171, -57.1%)
Spiderman 3 - $4,111,618 ($1,089,695, -35%)
Avatar - $3,865,891 ($1,426,677, -14.8%)
Transformers - $3,537,348 ($1,053,613, -42%)
Iron Man 2 - $3,395,993 ($899,697, -53.1%)
Clash Of The Titans - $3,296,180 ($701,344, -68%)
2012 - $3,288,097 ($1,031,413, -38.2%)
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $3,069,693 ($739,543, -62.1%)
Kung Fu Panda - $3,045,194 ($962,536, -31%)
Iron Man - $2,986,599 ($724,033, -53.1%)
Harry Potter 6: HBP - $2,954,248 ($721,415, -60.9%)
The Dark Knight - $2,876,623 ($924,263, -39.9%)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $2,825,001 ($655,886, -60.3%)
Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World - $2.6m (40)
The Mummy 3: Tomb Of The Dragon Emperor - $2,571,339 ($696,013, -53.9%)
Spiderman 2 - $2,557,245
Ip Man 2 (2010) - $2,467,883 ($779,209, -38.4%)
Alice In Wonderland - $2,288,591 ($784,628, -33.9%)
Indiana Jones: The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull - $2,279,775 ($542,520, -61.7%)
Shrek 4 - $2,251,169 ($836,786, -27.6%)
Fantastic Four 2: Rise Of The Silver Surfer - $2,247,011 ($542,961, -59.5%)
How To Tran Your Dragon - $2,222,406 ($537,351, -34.2%)
Kung Fu Hustle - $2,168,956 ($580,014)
Ratatouille - $2,162,682 ($647,760, -23.5%)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine - $2,124,444 ($422,842, -67.1%)
Ice Age 3: Dawn Of The Dinosaurs - $2,116,950 ($657,191, -31.8%)
Star Wars 3: ROTS - $2,107,352 by Mon
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa - $2,092,162 ($514,740, -50.4%)
Rush Hour 3 - $2,087,879 ($430,974, -69.7%)
G.I. Joe - $2,086,606 ($468,989, -57.6%)
Up - $2,037,916 ($582,516, -40.1%)
Alvin And The Chipmunks 2: The Squeakquel - $2,037,240 ($623,120, -36.6%)
Night At The Museum 2: Battle Of The Smithsonian - $2,033,866 ($536,069, -55.9%)
The Twilight Saga: New Moon - $2,017,906 ($265,195, -67.2%)
Superman Returns - $2,000,000
I Am Legend - $1,998,529 ($216,560, -69.2%)
James Bond: Quantum Of Solace - $1,984,238 ($454,517, -58.3%)
CJ7 (2008) - $1,960,011 ($339,380, -76%)
The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) - $1,941,991 ($551,373, -50.1%)
Mr. Bean’s Holiday - $1.9m (-46%)
Shrek 3 - $1,891,996 ($427,145, -63.3%)
Money No Enough 2 (2008) - $1,863,138 ($717,663, -17.1%)
Prince Of Persia: The Sands Of Time - $1,804,519 ($485,842, -55.6%)

Sherlock Holmes - $1,661,353 ($585,457, -24.1%)


PHILIPPINES - Weekend 2

Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen - $6,000,709 ($1,628,526, -57%)
Spiderman 3 - $5,295,813
Iron Man 2 - $4,967,378 ($1,602,405, -31.9%)
Transformers - $4,304,537 ($1,286,834, -43.1%)
Superman Returns - $4.2m ($1.1m)
The Twilight Saga: New Moon - $4,128,897 ($1,220,519, -47.5%)
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $3,794,266 ($944,197, -62.8%)
2012 - $3,618,634 ($1,323,754, -20.7%)
Spiderman 2 - $3,542,585 (-66%)
You Changed My Life (2009) - $3,403,121 ($1,020,885, -49%)
Harry Potter 6: HBP - $3,275,909 ($813,426, -62.7%)
Clash Of The Titans - $3,051,513 ($1,424,923, +35.4%)
Twilight - $2,946,174 ($776,141, -54.2%)
Iron Man - $2,900,007 ($800,585, -54.1%)
One More Chance (2008) - $2,661,813 ($682,516¸-55%)
A Very Special Love (2008) - $2,657,861 ($793,560, -39.7%)
Fantastic Four 2: Rise Of The Silver Surfer - $2,609,923 ($636,148)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $2,609,117
Miss You Like Crazy (2010) - $2,547,978 ($613,987, -59.2%)
Prince Of Persia: The Sands Of Time - $2,536,724 ($840,662, -38.2%)
Caregiver (2008) - $2,495,391 ($677,419, -52.8%)
The Dark Knight - $2,472,275 ($685,195, -50.6%)
Avatar - $2,454,586 ($345,800, -71.9%)*Christmas
A Love Story - $2,435,545 ($680,197, -53%)
Shrek 4 - $2,435,206 ($826,710, -35.2%)
G.I. Joe - $2,311,677 ($875,537, -17%)
For The First Time (2008) - $2,305,071 ($476,151, -72.3%)
The Mummy 3: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor - $2,096,786 ($541,955, -55%)
Indiana Jones: The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull - $2,029,842 ($510,617, -56%)
Alice In Wonderland - $1,969,698 ($743,584, -28.5%)

Should be at $190-200 million overseas by the end of the weekend.

New number cording to BOM:

$190,300,000

Looks like it got around 85,000 admissions in its fourth weekend here. With no competition (outside of World Cup) for a few eeeks, it should easily reach 1.5 million admissions, I think.

A goodish OS performance. It's unlikely, but hopefully Disney gives Prince another shot...

Even with $150 million....when was the last time a $150 million (or more) budgeted fim got a sequel despite failing to pass $100 million in the States?

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