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Mannyisthebest
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no that 44% drop is refering to the domestic gross. There is no way it has that much world wide if it droped 44%.
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Excel
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400 million for pirates.
200 million for superman.
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neo_wolf
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Mannyisthebest wrote: no that 44% drop is refering to the domestic gross. There is no way it has that much world wide if it droped 44%.
I see, then it did 70mill, i heard it broke the od japan record.
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Excel
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check this out-pirates got an im of 3.5
superman got an im of 3.9
supermans drop is even more impressive given theater count loss. sorry shack, but after a 52% saturday increase shows wom of among families and kids is out of this world, and a drop in the 30's while losing 1/3 of theaters, you cannot call this movie badly recieved anymore. if it hadnt of lost so many theaterds it literally would of gotten over 9 million this weekend. 
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Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:35 pm |
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O
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excel wrote: check this out-pirates got an im of 3.5 superman got an im of 3.9  supermans drop is even more impressive given theater count loss. sorry shack, but after a 52% saturday increase shows wom of among families and kids is out of this world, and a drop in the 30's while losing 1/3 of theaters, you cannot call this movie badly recieved anymore. if it hadnt of lost so many theaterds it literally would of gotten over 9 million this weekend. 
If there were no POTC 2, it would have done $250 m. If it had better marketing, it would have opened better. There were alot of things for WB to learn from how they handled this film, and hopefully with the sequel they do. Ex. Not opening a resurrected film franchise that your investing $200-300 m +, the week before a potential $400 m film, which is expected to take the yearly crown even before the year has begun. Superman is very, very fortunate to be having better legs now, but the damage has already been done unfortunately (with all the bad press the first two weeks). At least a $200 m total would give the franchise something to work with, leading up to the next film. I think they should even just stake out the first weekend of May 2009 now.
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Speevy
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From here on out Superman Returns needs a 2.89 multiplier to get to 200 million. I think it's getting pretty close to saying 200 million is incredibly likely at this point, especially if it can have another hold or two like this week. It would need a 3.6 multiplier to catch up to Batman Begins. Catching BB looks unlikely at this point, but it is possible if WB decides expand this into 1000 theaters over Labor Day weekend.
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O
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From THR:
Warners also was granted a bit of a reprieve for the weekend on its "Superman Returns" numbers. The Bryan Singer-directed film, which has consistently dropped in the 40%-50% range, fell just 39% in its fourth weekend. Its gross stands at an estimated $178.5 million, and Warners is confident it will hit $200 million. At this weekend's Comic-Con International in San Diego, Singer said he is in discussions with the studio about a sequel.
I'm pretty confident now, even if Superman is at $190 m, they'll push it like crazy to $200 m (Even if $10 m is a stretch
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zingy
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It's safe to say that it'll make $195 million at the least, so if it's close enough, it'll get pushed.
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zingy
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excel wrote: check this out-pirates got an im of 3.5 superman got an im of 3.9  supermans drop is even more impressive given theater count loss. sorry shack, but after a 52% saturday increase shows wom of among families and kids is out of this world, and a drop in the 30's while losing 1/3 of theaters, you cannot call this movie badly recieved anymore. if it hadnt of lost so many theaterds it literally would of gotten over 9 million this weekend. 
Yeah, uh... no. It's hardly "out of this world." It's good, not fantastic.
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Thegun
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Pirates did amazing this weekend. I'll be the first to say it, it defied almost all logic, what could have easily been predicted as an near 30 million, the IM is crazy. 400 million is almost a certainty now. I wont jump the gun, no pun intended, now, but it could still fall short, but Ill say that 400 million will be considered a definite or not by next weekend. Crazy for superman returns too, Fridays numbers would have said 6.5 would be a stretch, and it does a million more. It certainly shows that no new film broke out. I think 200 million is into the cards as it is stayin on target with my early analysis. I had it pinned a 7 million weekend at that point. I think it will eke pass it now.
Kinda disappointed with Clerks number, I think it should have passed JASBSB,
2006 clearly owns 2005.
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Tyler
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Thegun wrote: I wont jump the gun, no pun intended, now, but it could still fall short, but Ill say that 400 million will be considered a definite or not by next weekend..

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zingy
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Yeah, seriously, that's kinda funny. If you're projecting a film to drop about 55% in its third weekend and it drops just 44% (almost $7 million higher than you projected), and you had Pirates pegged around $380 million total, you'd think that you'd pretty much consider it a lock by this point. It's unrealistic to think that it'll all of a sudden just start dropping hard. It's about $78 million away and it just pulled a $35 million weekend...
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Dr. Lecter
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I'd bet my hands and feet on Pirates passing $400 million now.
A Scanner Darkly already passed Waking Life and will finish with $5-7 million, depending on the expansion next week.
The Devil Wears Prada will reach a multiplier of 4.5.
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Excel
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Zingaling wrote: excel wrote: check this out-pirates got an im of 3.5 superman got an im of 3.9  supermans drop is even more impressive given theater count loss. sorry shack, but after a 52% saturday increase shows wom of among families and kids is out of this world, and a drop in the 30's while losing 1/3 of theaters, you cannot call this movie badly recieved anymore. if it hadnt of lost so many theaterds it literally would of gotten over 9 million this weekend.  Yeah, uh... no. It's hardly "out of this world." It's good, not fantastic.
50%+ jumps on sunday and an im of 3.9 ARE fantastic. i didnt say its legs are fantastic, i said those 2 things are.
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Shack
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You said the WOM was out of this world.
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zingy
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excel wrote: Zingaling wrote: excel wrote: check this out-pirates got an im of 3.5 superman got an im of 3.9  supermans drop is even more impressive given theater count loss. sorry shack, but after a 52% saturday increase shows wom of among families and kids is out of this world, and a drop in the 30's while losing 1/3 of theaters, you cannot call this movie badly recieved anymore. if it hadnt of lost so many theaterds it literally would of gotten over 9 million this weekend.  Yeah, uh... no. It's hardly "out of this world." It's good, not fantastic. 50%+ jumps on sunday and an im of 3.9 ARE fantastic. i didnt say its legs are fantastic, i said those 2 things are.
Yes, the 50% jumps on Saturday are fantastic in the summer. Still a "no" on the fantastic WOM, though. It's good, possibly really good, but fantastic? Out of this world? Yeah, okay.
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Joker's Thug #3
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It's funny that a WB movie might be the reason why SR doesnt reach 200m. Next week Ant Bully comes out, might get around 3000 theaters so we can expect another big theater drop for SR, but the worse part is that Ant Bully will take away alot of SR's IMAX screens.
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Joker's Thug #3
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Zingaling wrote: Yes, the 50% jumps on Saturday are fantastic in the summer. Still a "no" on the fantastic WOM, though. It's good, possibly really good, but fantastic? Out of this world? Yeah, okay. Well the movie has been having shitty Friday increases, so it all evens out.
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Excel
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ok i exagerated a tad bit deal. sequels still looking at a solid increase and over 250 million if not 270 if positioned right, so eat that shack. Like O said, had this been anyother year and there wasnt a 400 million blockbuster in July this would come very close to 250 million. now with this run release around labor day and then imax expansion in september itll end around 210, which is good. sequels shoud see atleast a 20% increase if not more, which would be like 245-250 million. also to make it look more impressive, superman returns worldwide tally is likely gonna be bigger then batman 2's worldwide tally, so....
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kypade
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Horrible for Pirates :down What happened to this film? :confused:
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O
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One other big fact, POTC 2 spent 3 weeks at #1 during the May-July period of the summer. August had a three-peat, with Signs, but that had the benefit of August where there is a huge advantage. But POTC 2 is the first film since The Phantom Menace, 7 years earlier, to have spent 3 weeks at #1 during the May-July summer period I believe.
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Amer
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Pirates is doing less then I thought it would, but 400 Million to me would be great, and I think its possible.
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Eventine
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O wrote: One other big fact, POTC 2 spent 3 weeks at #1 during the May-July period of the summer. August had a three-peat, with Signs, but that had the benefit of August where there is a huge advantage. But POTC 2 is the first film since The Phantom Menace, 7 years earlier, to have spent 3 weeks at #1 during the May-July summer period I believe.
When was American Pie 2 released?
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Dr. Lecter
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Eventine wrote: O wrote: One other big fact, POTC 2 spent 3 weeks at #1 during the May-July period of the summer. August had a three-peat, with Signs, but that had the benefit of August where there is a huge advantage. But POTC 2 is the first film since The Phantom Menace, 7 years earlier, to have spent 3 weeks at #1 during the May-July summer period I believe. When was American Pie 2 released?
August
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