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choubachou
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 1796
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 Re: The Hobbit less than 250 mil club
BK wrote: Have people read the Hobbit? Or are they basing their predictions on the LOTR trilogy and/or LOTR books? That's a big and often error. Does anyone have any idea what the first half could include? They're splitting it into three fucking movies and how long is it? A fifth the size of LOTR? You make a good point, but it isn't as big a deal as you make it sound. Yes the Hobbit book is a lot shorter than all three LotR books. But the "event concentration" (the amount of events going on) is much greater in Hobbit. In LotR, you have very, very long landscape descriptions, details about the history of Middle-Earth, and sometimes you also have very long dialogues (like in the council of Elrond). The Hobbit is almost always straight to the point: minimal dialogues, a lot of events, barely any landscape descriptions. To turn it into a movie, it would be very easy to flesh it out. Still, 3 movies does seem exagerated. But not terribly exagerated. I think it might work well.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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From what I heard it is still going to be 2 movies but the third movie is just an extension. The main story will finish by Part 2.
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Nazgul9
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:32 pm Posts: 11289 Location: Germany
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I told you this is not true.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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You did....I am not sure of that. Cause I recently read about that and they are still saying that the main movie is still 2 parts where as the third movie is like a bridge (Don't have a link now though).
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Nazgul9
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Well, they are wrong.
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Crux
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:28 pm Posts: 1589 Location: Pittsburgh
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Out.
It will make $250 by the end of the first weekend in January.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68385
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Out. It makes $320m in my opinion.
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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So this club is essentially Shack and Bradley vs ROW.....mighty crew if you ask me 
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Shack
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Bump
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Darth Indiana Bond
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Your signature is perfect with your post in this thread Magnus
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Jack Sparrow
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Yeah this is not gonna happen.
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Algren
now we know
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jmovies wrote: Though $250M may be a bit too low of a gross, this is not going to be the Top-10 all-time film a lot of people are thinking it'll be. I agree with you. I can see it disappointing and getting, say, $295m, for example, but $250 just seems far too low. As it is, my prediction stays at $320m. It's not cum-tastic, but it's respectable for this series, which I think may have some work to do after this movie to get people back for another installment.
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Algren
now we know
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BK wrote: Have people read the Hobbit? Or are they basing their predictions on the LOTR trilogy and/or LOTR books? That's a big and often error. Does anyone have any idea what the first half could include? They're splitting it into three fucking movies and how long is it? A fifth the size of LOTR? They've used the LOTR appendices, which contains a lot about The Hobbit and things that have happened in the past. It's effectively another book, so they have enough material to fill 3 movies easily. They've padded it out and added in their own stuff (based on these appendices), but they're trying to give the audience more knowledge regarding Middle Earth and its history.
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Crux
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:28 pm Posts: 1589 Location: Pittsburgh
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Magnus wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Your signature is perfect with your post in this thread Magnus my signature is perfect for ANY post in ANY thread. I feel like your signature is perfect for almost any post!
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Bradley Witherberry
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Algren wrote: BK wrote: Have people read the Hobbit? Or are they basing their predictions on the LOTR trilogy and/or LOTR books? That's a big and often error. Does anyone have any idea what the first half could include? They're splitting it into three fucking movies and how long is it? A fifth the size of LOTR? They've padded it out and added in their own stuff... Jackson wholesale made up the character of Tauriel to increase ticket sales to women viewers. It would have been more accurate to name this movie Peter Jackson's Action Fantasy Trilogy and skip the ruining of Tolkien's classic tale altogether. I agree with Tolkien's son Christopher: Quote: Invited to meet Peter Jackson, the Tolkien family preferred not to. Why? "They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people aged 15 to 25," Tolkien says regretfully.
"Tolkien has become a monster, devoured by his own popularity and absorbed into the absurdity of our time," Christopher Tolkien observes sadly. "The chasm between the beauty and seriousness of the work, and what it has become, has overwhelmed me. The commercialization has reduced the aesthetic and philosophical impact of the creation to nothing. - via Le Monde
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Algren
now we know
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What a pompus wanker.
His father will have a greater legacy and be in the memory of everybody longer due to Jackson's work.
He is trying to make out like his father's work was something more than it is. Tolkien wrote a couple of fantasy books for kids, not the fucking Bible. What a complete prick that Christopher Tolkien is. He'd be lucky to share the same room as someone as brave and advantageous as Peter Jackson.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Algren wrote: What a pompus wanker.
His father will have a greater legacy and be in the memory of everybody longer due to Jackson's work.
He is trying to make out like his father's work was something more than it is. Tolkien wrote a couple of fantasy books for kids, not the fucking Bible. What a complete prick that Christopher Tolkien is. He'd be lucky to share the same room as someone as brave and advantageous as Peter Jackson. As I've pointed out before: Kids like you are simply ignorant of the role Christopher Tolkien played in organizing and publishing his father's work. Even though you won't have heard of The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and the twelve volume History of Middle-earth, they are a veritable Smaug's treasure of foundation material that Christopher Tolkien rescued from disorganized boxes of his father's hand scrawled notes and made his life's work to decode, edit, and get published.
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Algren
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While I didn't know that, it doesn't mean I'm a kid. I just don't care about that at all.
So Christopher had nothing to do with writing, editing and publishing The Hobbit? Therefore Jackson's understanding of it is just as worthy a his son's. Being linked by blood doesn't make him the authority on all things Middle Earth.
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Christopher Tolkien is, in a word, an asshole.
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Bradley Witherberry
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David wrote: Christopher Tolkien is, in a word, an asshole. QFT before it can be deleted.
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Jedi Master Carr
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Christopher Tolkein is just mad that he won't see any of the money from the movies.
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Flava'd vs The World
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: Algren wrote: What a pompus wanker.
His father will have a greater legacy and be in the memory of everybody longer due to Jackson's work.
He is trying to make out like his father's work was something more than it is. Tolkien wrote a couple of fantasy books for kids, not the fucking Bible. What a complete prick that Christopher Tolkien is. He'd be lucky to share the same room as someone as brave and advantageous as Peter Jackson. As I've pointed out before: Kids like you are simply ignorant of the role Christopher Tolkien played in organizing and publishing his father's work. Even though you won't have heard of The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and the twelve volume History of Middle-earth, they are a veritable Smaug's treasure of foundation material that Christopher Tolkien rescued from disorganized boxes of his father's hand scrawled notes and made his life's work to decode, edit, and get published. And that was not financially advantageous to him?
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choubachou
Indiana Jones IV
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: As I've pointed out before: Kids like you are simply ignorant of the role Christopher Tolkien played in organizing and publishing his father's work. Even though you won't have heard of The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and the twelve volume History of Middle-earth, they are a veritable Smaug's treasure of foundation material that Christopher Tolkien rescued from disorganized boxes of his father's hand scrawled notes and made his life's work to decode, edit, and get published. And that was not financially advantageous to him?[/quote] Anyway, JRR himself once said that if LotR was made in a film, it would be ok to take some things out. Peter Jackson has allowed the books LotR/Hobbit's popularity to grow tremendously (by 50%?). And let's be honest here: the MAIN goal that Tolkien had when writing these books was to get as many people as possible to read them.
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The Dark Shape
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: Algren wrote: What a pompus wanker.
His father will have a greater legacy and be in the memory of everybody longer due to Jackson's work.
He is trying to make out like his father's work was something more than it is. Tolkien wrote a couple of fantasy books for kids, not the fucking Bible. What a complete prick that Christopher Tolkien is. He'd be lucky to share the same room as someone as brave and advantageous as Peter Jackson. As I've pointed out before: Kids like you are simply ignorant of the role Christopher Tolkien played in organizing and publishing his father's work. Even though you won't have heard of The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and the twelve volume History of Middle-earth, they are a veritable Smaug's treasure of foundation material that Christopher Tolkien rescued from disorganized boxes of his father's hand scrawled notes and made his life's work to decode, edit, and get published. So what if, say, we've actually read The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales?
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choubachou
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 1796
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The Dark Shape wrote: Bradley Witherberry wrote: Algren wrote: What a pompus wanker.
His father will have a greater legacy and be in the memory of everybody longer due to Jackson's work.
He is trying to make out like his father's work was something more than it is. Tolkien wrote a couple of fantasy books for kids, not the fucking Bible. What a complete prick that Christopher Tolkien is. He'd be lucky to share the same room as someone as brave and advantageous as Peter Jackson. As I've pointed out before: Kids like you are simply ignorant of the role Christopher Tolkien played in organizing and publishing his father's work. Even though you won't have heard of The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and the twelve volume History of Middle-earth, they are a veritable Smaug's treasure of foundation material that Christopher Tolkien rescued from disorganized boxes of his father's hand scrawled notes and made his life's work to decode, edit, and get published. So what if, say, we've actually read The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales? But not the History of Middle Earth. Therefore, Bradley wins. 
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