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Excel
Superfreak
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spiderman 3 is a lock for 300 million.
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Fri May 04, 2007 7:48 pm |
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Skyblade
Wall-E
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Quote: If MTF can come within $20M of the mark, NT2 can clear it, methinks.
I think Meet the Parents had better word of mouth, and it was a smaller movie than National Treasure, so it sequel would have more room for expansion.
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Fri May 04, 2007 9:16 pm |
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tina_als_girl
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 3:43 pm Posts: 2252 Location: Wellsville, MO
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I'm a hardcore Pirates fan, and I haven't even gone to Yahoo to vote for PotC, much less give SM3 a bad grade. And on IMDb, I only rate the films I've actually seen.
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Fri May 04, 2007 9:28 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22214 Location: Places
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where are people getting this idea that the word of mouth is horrible? spidey 2 wooulda done 3.5 had it opened on a friday. spidey 3 minimum multiplier is 2.5 and thatsreally pushing it. kids love this and will be seeing ti all summer.
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Fri May 04, 2007 10:19 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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WE GOT RANDY MOSS!! wrote: where are people getting this idea that the word of mouth is horrible? spidey 2 wooulda done 3.5 had it opened on a friday. spidey 3 minimum multiplier is 2.5 and thatsreally pushing it. kids love this and will be seeing ti all summer.
By reading.
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:10 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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Nah, tho I see Spider-Man 3 with a chance at 315-330 now, and Shrek in that range too.
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:25 pm |
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DIB2
All Star Poster
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:57 am Posts: 4669 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Spiderman was pretty bad, but I still see ateast a 2.7 multiplyer. No way it makes less than 300m
Shrek is the one, It will fail to make 300m. Potter 5 will fucking own it.
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:30 pm |
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Bryan_smith
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:13 pm Posts: 2120
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Jmart007 wrote: WE GOT RANDY MOSS!! wrote: where are people getting this idea that the word of mouth is horrible? spidey 2 wooulda done 3.5 had it opened on a friday. spidey 3 minimum multiplier is 2.5 and thatsreally pushing it. kids love this and will be seeing ti all summer. By reading.
Hmm, perhaps you should judge it by seeing... reading about a movie is not always accurate.. i saw it with a sold out crowd . Yeah, the quality isn't up there with the first two, but the film itself is still enjoyable, especially the final fight scene.. It certainly could have been a little less cheesy (there's a lot of cheese!), but people were cheering at the end, and generally I was hearing a lot of positive feedback.
I can understand how die hard Spidey fans might have been disappointed with the film, but you guys are making a huge mistake by basing your opinions on what a the diehard fans who saw the midnights had to say.... you'll notice that once the general audience has seen the film this weekend, the WOM isnt nearly what you people think it is.
To even think about comparing it to Catwoman, or The Hulk, or Batman in Robin is stupid, and I think a big over-reaction.
I could respect it if you saw the film and that was your own opinion.
But to say that it is based on what you have been reading, I think is a huge mistake.
And I don't mean that in a rude way, or to attack you. It's really just a statement to everyone..
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:42 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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Bryan_smith wrote: Jmart007 wrote: WE GOT RANDY MOSS!! wrote: where are people getting this idea that the word of mouth is horrible? spidey 2 wooulda done 3.5 had it opened on a friday. spidey 3 minimum multiplier is 2.5 and thatsreally pushing it. kids love this and will be seeing ti all summer. By reading. Hmm, perhaps you should judge it by seeing... reading about a movie is not always accurate.. i saw it with a sold out crowd . Yeah, the quality isn't up there with the first two, but the film itself is still enjoyable, especially the final fight scene.. It certainly could have been a little less cheesy (there's a lot of cheese!), but people were cheering at the end, and generally I was hearing a lot of positive feedback. I can understand how die hard Spidey fans might have been disappointed with the film, but you guys are making a huge mistake by basing your opinions on what a the diehard fans who saw the midnights had to say.... you'll notice that once the general audience has seen the film this weekend, the WOM isnt nearly what you people think it is. To even think about comparing it to Catwoman, or The Hulk, or Batman in Robin is stupid, and I think a big over-reaction. I could respect it if you saw the film and that was your own opinion. But to say that it is based on what you have been reading, I think is a huge mistake. And I don't mean that in a rude way, or to attack you. It's really just a statement to everyone..
http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopi ... &start=125
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:46 pm |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22214 Location: Places
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word is its a lot like spidey 1 instead of spidey 2.
thats good for word of mouth amongst teens n kids n famililes but bad for adults.
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:51 pm |
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Bryan_smith
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:13 pm Posts: 2120
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Jmart007 wrote: Bryan_smith wrote: Jmart007 wrote: WE GOT RANDY MOSS!! wrote: where are people getting this idea that the word of mouth is horrible? spidey 2 wooulda done 3.5 had it opened on a friday. spidey 3 minimum multiplier is 2.5 and thatsreally pushing it. kids love this and will be seeing ti all summer. By reading. Hmm, perhaps you should judge it by seeing... reading about a movie is not always accurate.. i saw it with a sold out crowd . Yeah, the quality isn't up there with the first two, but the film itself is still enjoyable, especially the final fight scene.. It certainly could have been a little less cheesy (there's a lot of cheese!), but people were cheering at the end, and generally I was hearing a lot of positive feedback. I can understand how die hard Spidey fans might have been disappointed with the film, but you guys are making a huge mistake by basing your opinions on what a the diehard fans who saw the midnights had to say.... you'll notice that once the general audience has seen the film this weekend, the WOM isnt nearly what you people think it is. To even think about comparing it to Catwoman, or The Hulk, or Batman in Robin is stupid, and I think a big over-reaction. I could respect it if you saw the film and that was your own opinion. But to say that it is based on what you have been reading, I think is a huge mistake. And I don't mean that in a rude way, or to attack you. It's really just a statement to everyone.. http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopi ... &start=125
alright, you've certainly got me there, but to be fair, you're reply in this thread gave no indication that you saw it at all.
I still think there is a general over-reaction to the WOM...
Even the Yahoo score is a decent B with over 6000 reviews...
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:54 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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It's nothing like 1. 1 was awesome. 3 has too much in it, and introduces it in akward and ridiculous ways. And the middle of the movie blows.
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:55 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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Bryan_smith wrote: Jmart007 wrote: Bryan_smith wrote: Jmart007 wrote: WE GOT RANDY MOSS!! wrote: where are people getting this idea that the word of mouth is horrible? spidey 2 wooulda done 3.5 had it opened on a friday. spidey 3 minimum multiplier is 2.5 and thatsreally pushing it. kids love this and will be seeing ti all summer. By reading. Hmm, perhaps you should judge it by seeing... reading about a movie is not always accurate.. i saw it with a sold out crowd . Yeah, the quality isn't up there with the first two, but the film itself is still enjoyable, especially the final fight scene.. It certainly could have been a little less cheesy (there's a lot of cheese!), but people were cheering at the end, and generally I was hearing a lot of positive feedback. I can understand how die hard Spidey fans might have been disappointed with the film, but you guys are making a huge mistake by basing your opinions on what a the diehard fans who saw the midnights had to say.... you'll notice that once the general audience has seen the film this weekend, the WOM isnt nearly what you people think it is. To even think about comparing it to Catwoman, or The Hulk, or Batman in Robin is stupid, and I think a big over-reaction. I could respect it if you saw the film and that was your own opinion. But to say that it is based on what you have been reading, I think is a huge mistake. And I don't mean that in a rude way, or to attack you. It's really just a statement to everyone.. http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopi ... &start=125alright, you've certainly got me there, but to be fair, you're reply in this thread gave no indication that you saw it at all. 
Well of course. I only wrote two words. 
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Fri May 04, 2007 11:57 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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I think hell will freeze over if Spiderman 3 doesn't make 300. The worse case is a 2.3 multiplyer like X3 had although I am thinking it will be higher than that.
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MadGez
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No no no. It should manage $340-50m atleast.
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Jim Halpert
Stanley Cup
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word of mouth is piss poor but even then it wont finish with below 350m.
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Sat May 05, 2007 12:28 pm |
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xiayun
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350 is no lock, but 300 should still be. There is a remote possibility though, depending on the Saturday number.
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Sat May 05, 2007 3:28 pm |
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Jedi Master Carr
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I would eat my hat if it didn't do 300. I think it will do around 350, of course I think it will do around that more because of Shrek 3 and POTC more than anything else.
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Sat May 05, 2007 3:38 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
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Jedi Master Carr wrote: I would eat my hat if it didn't do 300. I think it will do around 350, of course I think it will do around that more because of Shrek 3 and POTC more than anything else.
Won't they hurt it even worse though?
Poor WOM in general, from both the general audience, critics, and fans, is an obvious factor to bring it's total down, and also major competition from Shrek and Pirates. It's a doube-whammy, tied in with the poor WOM. It's also possible, that some screens could be taken away since some theatres added it to more because of all the sell-outs. That could even happen this weekend.
Alot of negatives against it's legs, but under 300 seems impossible. 350...I don't know. Using a 140M OW, it's a 2.5X. It should be close in the end. And won't be surprised if it lands around 325-340.
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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DP07 wrote: Speevy wrote: DP07 wrote: Speevy wrote: DP07 wrote: Mr. Inc wrote: How is the WOM bad. Its decent, B - B+ and some bad ones obviously. No, I think all 3 can go over 300.. but who knows which will be the highest. At yahoo it has the hardcore fans voting. Just about every blockbuster will have an A- at this point. A "B" is terrible and likely means a final of C+ or worse. That is Hulk/Godzilla/B&R territory. Does Yahoo give a grade breakdown too? Because isn't it a possibility that the 'anti-fan' such as hardcore fans of Pirates would be giving it all F's? There are a few anti-fans for every movie, but not nearly enough. There are over 3000 votes, so the haters can't have much of an effect. That's why blockbusters with huge numbers of votes always start out will great grades at yahoo unless WOM sucks. If you look through the written reviews you would usually see rows of As at this point from the fans with a few F's between. There are many B's, C's, and many more D's and F's then usual for SM3. So basically you're saying that a C+/C is very likely to be the final grade for this movie right? Yeah, I actually doubt it will be any better than C+ after 10 days.
I might have overreacted. It was on the higher half of a B yesterday and it has yet to drop to a B- today. I suppose there is a slight chance it could still finish with a B-, although I'd still bet on a C+.
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xiayun
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The IMDb average has dropped from 8.2 with over 2,000 votes on Thursday to 7.9 with over 4,000 votes yesterday and 7.3 with over 10,000 votes after Saturday's update. It should fall below 7 eventually.
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Sun May 06, 2007 3:03 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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The WoM is okay, nothing terrible about it. It is just not out-of-this-world excellent like for the last Spidey flick or Batman Begins. It is certainly not worse than for, say, Fantastic Four.
It will top $300 million with relative ease as it'll be at around $180 million after 7 days. I see a total of about $350 million wth Shrek The Third and Pirates biting a chunk out of its audiences, but it'll still sand a fair chance at the top spot of the year.
Basically, I think all three with make $300 million easily with Harry Potter 5 having a shot as well.
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Sun May 06, 2007 10:25 am |
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Shack
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Yeah it'll past 300 easily with it's OW now.
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Squee
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Well 1 out of 3 isn't so bad.
Shrek 3: GUARANTEED to finish below 300.
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Biggestgeekever
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Squee wrote: Well 1 out of 3 isn't so bad.
Shrek 3: GUARANTEED to finish below 300. Under $208 Million? YOU ARE INSANE!!!
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