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Magnus101 wrote:
This needs a bumping.

First one was big, 2nd one, altough wasn't that good of a film, still won the summer crown in 2000.

With the cast plus J.J. Abrhams on board, it should be big. Its going to have a lot of ads with Lost(cause its J.J. Abrhams), which is a big show. This is the kind of film you need to start the summer with.

Fri: 30m
Sat: 28.5m (5% drop)
Sun: 21.5m (25% drop)

OW: 80m

Total: 205m

Crappy legs like X2.


With as much as this film will cost including Cruise's Salary, if this film only made 205 Million, it would have to be declared a BOMB.. If this doesn't at the very LEAST make close to 300 Million, I'll be very surprised cause that's what this movie is gonna have to make Domestically to even be taken seriously and having Phillip Seymour Hoffman as your Villain is always a good idea....


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According to BKB, the studios never see the money from international grosses as he believes that North America is the only continent on the planet, and money made elsewhere is thrown in the trash.


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Zingaling wrote:
According to BKB, the studios never see the money from international grosses as he believes that North America is the only continent on the planet, and money made elsewhere is thrown in the trash.


One would have to think this is true considering the only time you hear about the Worldwide Gross of a movie is on the internet cause News and Entertainment Tabloids always focus on the DOMESTIC Number and you never even hear or see a peep out of Worldwide Number unless the film is doing poorly domesticallly and they drag the Worldwide figure in to save face and make it look like the film made more than what it did and they try to justify the movie as a hit by this like there doing with KING KONG..


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BKB_The_Man wrote:
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According to BKB, the studios never see the money from international grosses as he believes that North America is the only continent on the planet, and money made elsewhere is thrown in the trash.


One would have to think this is true considering the only time you hear about the Worldwide Gross of a movie is on the internet cause News and Entertainment Tabloids always focus on the DOMESTIC Number and you never even hear or see a peep out of Worldwide Number unless the film is doing poorly domesticallly and they drag the Worldwide figure in to save face and make it look like the film made more than what it did and they try to justify the movie as a hit by this like there doing with KING KONG..


We all know that, but at the end of the day, it's still profitable, despite you "not hearing" about the international figures.

But I'm not getting into this with you.


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i liked the ad. hoffman seems to be great.

well this films opening will be nowhere near 100, il tell you. itds got a huge mix of things going for/against it.

against it:
-tom cruise is more box office poison then a draw at this point
-negative reaction to MI2
-hasnt been a mission impossiblr film in 6 years

for it
-marketing and screen scounts from paramount
-hoffman
-release date

ok, so heres MI2's number with inflation. MI2 was coming off MI1 which had very good word of mouth.

65/240

i see about 70 3 day. this doesnt have near as much going for it opening-weekend-wise as MI2 did and it doesnt have near as much going for its legs as MI2 did either.

70 3 say/200-210 total. war of the worlds would of had a sub 3 multiplier if opened on a friday like this, n that had steven spielberg at the helm so i cant imagine this getting 3 with a worse release date but around the same amount of appeal. its blockbuster flair being advertised alot should help though.

70 opening weekend
33 second weekend in wake of poseidons 70 million bow
15 third with da vinci
10 4 day with memoiral day
210 total, finishing last in the battle of may.


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How is Tom Cruise poison?!?!?

War of the Worlds did perfectly fine with him, and there are absolutely NO negative reactions to the trailer... don't make yourself sound ignorant

Just because there's been 6 years since the last Mission Impossible doesn't mean it's negative... it hardly hurt Batman Begins and Batman and Robin left a terrible taste in everyones mouth.

MI:2 wasn't NEARLY as bad as Batman and Robin

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Alias director + Michelle Moghanan (sp?) = I'm so there!

Big 240m potential. Will have a strong opening fortnight.


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ChipMunky wrote:
How is Tom Cruise poison?!?!?

War of the Worlds did perfectly fine with him, and there are absolutely NO negative reactions to the trailer... don't make yourself sound ignorant

Just because there's been 6 years since the last Mission Impossible doesn't mean it's negative... it hardly hurt Batman Begins and Batman and Robin left a terrible taste in everyones mouth.

MI:2 wasn't NEARLY as bad as Batman and Robin


lol hes obviously not poision, what i meant he aint nearly as popular as he was in 2000. if his star power along with steven spielbergs n a july 4th release about an alien disaster flick can "only" get 235 million then i dont see how this can get more with a worse release date n way less star power n moe compitition.


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excel wrote:
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How is Tom Cruise poison?!?!?

War of the Worlds did perfectly fine with him, and there are absolutely NO negative reactions to the trailer... don't make yourself sound ignorant

Just because there's been 6 years since the last Mission Impossible doesn't mean it's negative... it hardly hurt Batman Begins and Batman and Robin left a terrible taste in everyones mouth.

MI:2 wasn't NEARLY as bad as Batman and Robin


lol hes obviously not poision, what i meant he aint nearly as popular as he was in 2000. if his star power along with steven spielbergs n a july 4th release about an alien disaster flick can "only" get 235 million then i dont see how this can get more with a worse release date n way less star power n moe compitition.


That's easy... built in fanbase

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not only that, just that war didnt hav near as much hype. had it been a friday it woulda done 80 million 3day. this has steven spielberg or release date.


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I've got a really good feeling on this one that it's gonna do really well and not because of Cruise either but because of how effective Phillip Seymour Hoffman sounded and looked in the trailer, plus Cruise getting thrown against a vehicle and his ass whipped is always a plus.. 60 Million weekend and 240 Million Domestically is what I foresee..


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MI:
Domestic: $180,981,886 39.6%
+ Overseas: $275,512,947 60.4%
= Worldwide: $456,494,833
MII:
Domestic: $215,409,889 39.5%
+ Overseas: $330,492,673 60.5%
= Worldwide: $545,902,562
MIII???
I say this is so gonna make over 200. Actually I think it is not a movie people are waiting that much for but at the time when it is in Cinema folks will say "Actually we could check it out". As well the teaser stuff etc with Hoffman and the Car scene with Cruise was pretty Kick ass. With a good finale Trailer this is gonna do very good buisness .

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I kinda liked the 2nd better than the 1st. The first was more style but the second is better than people give it credit for.

I can see this making $180-$200m. Its biggest positive is that it will open up the summer. A $70m opening will easily dominate last years early May.

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MadGez wrote:
I kinda liked the 2nd better than the 1st. The first was more style but the second is better than people give it credit for.

I can see this making $180-$200m. Its biggest positive is that it will open up the summer. A $70m opening will easily dominate last years early May.


MI:2 was nothing more than a Glorified, Slick MTV Video and didn't have that FEEL of what MISSION IMPOSSIBLE was supposed to be, which the 1st film did succeed on in the "Feel" of the TV Series.. Here's hoping MI:3 retains this element..


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MadGez wrote:
I kinda liked the 2nd better than the 1st. The first was more style but the second is better than people give it credit for.

I can see this making $180-$200m. Its biggest positive is that it will open up the summer. A $70m opening will easily dominate last years early May.


MI:2 was nothing more than a Glorified, Slick MTV Video and didn't have that FEEL of what MISSION IMPOSSIBLE was supposed to be, which the 1st film did succeed on in the "Feel" of the TV Series.. Here's hoping MI:3 retains this element..


I know what you mean - the espionage style and Euro locations. But the second wasnt as bad as people make out

or.... maybe it was like the 2nd film I went to see with my then girlfriend and they were crazy good times and im looking back with rose tinted glasses :huh: :unsure: :tongue:

Regardless - I generally like Abrams work and the trailer is decent!

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Some of the action sequence remind me of XXX2, you can almost sub Ice Cube flying towards the helicopter to the same scene of Cruise dodging sideways away from the car explosion. If Austin Powers had a serious movie and had Zoolander star in it, it would look like Mission Impossible


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For now:

Opening: 71 million
Total: 190 million

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Magnus101 wrote:
BKB_The_Man wrote:
I've got a really good feeling on this one that it's gonna do really well and not because of Cruise either but because of how effective Phillip Seymour Hoffman sounded and looked in the trailer, plus Cruise getting thrown against a vehicle and his ass whipped is always a plus.. 60 Million weekend and 240 Million Domestically is what I foresee..


I don't see how this can get a multiplier of 4.0 with its competition after it. I also don't see how this can really get below 75m on OW. considring it has no competition before it.

This is going to be the first big movie-event of the year(well, Ice Age 2 will be big but mostly with the kiddies). People are going to be rushing out to it like mad. 60m on OW would be VERY dissapoionting.

240m total is possible, but it would need around 80m-90m on OW, not 60m.


No.. 60 Million is respectable and it will be good enough to sustain legs and keep up with the competition to get 240 Million which is probably more than the last 2 movies made domestically..


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No, BKB. It's not the film to have legs. It'll be extremely frontloaded. If you think it's going to make $240M total, it has to open to atleast $80M.


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Magnus101 wrote:

Paramount is going to go market this CRAZY. This will be the first huge opening of the year, and it may have the highest theater count ever(both MI1 and MI2 I beleived set the records at their repesctive times. Dont' be surprised by a 4,200+ theater count for this). So with 4,200+, it would need about 20,000 average for around 85m-90m OW, which is very duable.


Well it could also be because JJ Abrams who directed Lost also directed MI3 and requested the tie in commericals. I think we should check to see if other shows other than Lost continues with the MI3 commericals in a few more days. Commercials playing way this early could be very expensive, I also remember the Ring 2 commericials playing around december/ january before the movie opened on public tv

I do look forward to Cruise doing publicity for the movie when it comes out, he may even outdo his Oprah couch jumping antic by urinating all over Oprahs couch


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Magnus101 wrote:

Yes, obvioulsy having it on JJ show was a factor, but Lost is a huge show. Think about it. If MI3 has ads on LOST 4 weeks going into it every week, that's going to help it a lot.

ANd I don't rememeber what shows Ring 2 was playing on in Dec./Jan.

Either way, my point is that Paramount is going to market this like crazy(hell its their only big project this year).


Well we have to wait in see first because most likely the MI3 ads probably wont be shown again until early april/ late march. They were bound to show it anyway since channel 7 had already telecast the Superbowl and had those ads handy already especially with airing it around Lost.

I seen to remember the Ring 2 ads being shown with either 24 or CBS crime dramas since those were the only shows I was watching february time


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dunno if yall but this is a sign ofd whats to come

the super bowl ad is airing on espn n mtv

marketing should be big... ill up

75/210


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I convinced myself in the Pirates thread when discussing sequels, that they generally tend to at least earn most of the original's gross. While there is little anticipation for this one, I'll go with 62m/160m.


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And just a little thing: In a summer full of big sequels, MI is the only franchise that has actually won a summer crown. Superman never did(lost to Raiders of Ark in 1981), POTC never did, and X-men never did.


That's sort of incidental. Sheer luck of being a big fish in a small pond aside...It placed first in the summer sweepstakes, but in the annual sweepstakes, it placed the same as Superman II and Pirates of the Carribean. And while the franchise has earned more than the X-Men series, it's improvements have been less impressive, plus, it's been a six year period--very few times does a franchise benefit from sitting on the bench for more than five years.


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Magnus101 wrote:
This just affirms my OW of 80m-90m


you are talking loco...and i like it!!! :tongue:

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